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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 26 @ 7:41 PM ET
has rusty developed as a decent pk guy?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 26 @ 7:42 PM ET
homer was expecting the .920 sv % that bryz played up to 3 out of 4 yrs in PHO...that and much better consistency.

I like his chances to bounce back this yr, but I won't judge w/ bryz colored glasses.

- isaiah520


That's what it will be with him for me.

This isn't a guy like Biron we brought in to just be a solid guy who doesn't let in the weak stuff.

Bryzgalov needs to play, as any goaltender with a high salary, at a high level. With consistency. Not all the time, as like any goaltender there will be trouble spots in a season. The weak goals were what was killer, and that needs to simply stop. Or decrease big time because there were far too many.

I'll stop here though, I dont want to debate Bryzgalov further.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 26 @ 7:46 PM ET
There is a large amount of Flyer fans that are outside of the USA, so I am going to ignore that comment . I could care less if those fans in Philadelphia do not take anything that happens in international hockey seriously. This is the same country where there is a huge rise in people buying guns for "protection" after the theatre shootings. So you will excuse me in not basing my posts purely on the norms of the USA.

Like you, I truly hope he does well. If not him then Leighton or whoever is between the pipes. My question was purely speculative, if he doesn't do well, and is as inconsistent as he was last season does the organization continue to stick with him.

It is true I only pointed out his negatives. I'm not going to sing kum-bah-yah after every negative thing said. Or give a positive after every negative. Too much political correctness bs in the world and not enough people being blunt.

- flyer_nutter

Yea I think Nittymaki had a great olympics how'd that work out
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 26 @ 7:46 PM ET
That's what it will be with him for me.

This isn't a guy like Biron we brought in to just be a solid guy who doesn't let in the weak stuff.

Bryzgalov needs to play, as any goaltender with a high salary, at a high level. With consistency. Not all the time, as like any goaltender there will be trouble spots in a season. The weak goals were what was killer, and that needs to simply stop. Or decrease big time because there were far too many.

I'll stop here though, I dont want to debate Bryzgalov further.

- flyer_nutter

I'm going with the rusty the pk'er theme myself
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 26 @ 7:49 PM ET
Yea I think Nittymaki had a great olympics how'd that work out
- JoeRussomanno

Hockey is hockey.

Bryzgalov had a great time in Phoenix.

We will see how that works out as well

Goodnight and good hockey hooligans!
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 26 @ 7:49 PM ET
watching the PIT gm 1 replay...

wellwood all over the place
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 26 @ 7:50 PM ET
Hockey is hockey.

Bryzgalov had a great time in Phoenix.

We will see how that works out as well

Goodnight and good hockey hooligans!

- flyer_nutter

okay when you comeback try to make sense and use stuff that is relevant thanks.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 26 @ 7:55 PM ET
does Eric fehr have anything left?
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 26 @ 8:00 PM ET
does Eric fehr have anything left?
- isaiah520


Why? We have an entire 12 man offensive lineup already

Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Simmonds-Briere-Schenn
Read-Couturier-Fedotenko
Wellwood-Talbot-Rinaldo
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 26 @ 8:05 PM ET
At what cost?
- ob18


That's the key. Right now, unless the Jets were willing to make a deal for Read and picks, I wait.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 26 @ 8:11 PM ET
does Eric fehr have anything left?
- isaiah520


He started the year hurt, but didn't do much after returning.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 26 @ 8:12 PM ET
Why? We have an entire 12 man offensive lineup already

Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Simmonds-Briere-Schenn
Read-Couturier-Fedotenko
Wellwood-Talbot-Rinaldo

- Flyers2821

I don't like talbot as the fourth center, rather have him on a wing.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 26 @ 8:15 PM ET
I don't like talbot as the fourth center, rather have him on a wing.
- JoeRussomanno


I'd also like to see Read with Giroux & Voracek with Briere.

Might be the better.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 26 @ 8:16 PM ET
I'd also like to see Read with Giroux & Voracek with Briere.

Might be the better.

- ob18

y read and G just curious
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 26 @ 8:17 PM ET
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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 26 @ 8:18 PM ET
Why? We have an entire 12 man offensive lineup already

Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Simmonds-Briere-Schenn
Read-Couturier-Fedotenko
Wellwood-Talbot-Rinaldo

- Flyers2821

g needs to feed a shooter...maybe that plyr is on the roster, maybe he's not
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 26 @ 8:18 PM ET
y read and G just curious
- JoeRussomanno


Giroux is a play maker Read is a shooter pair it together.

Voracek is a play maker not a shooter, Briere is a shooter, just seemed like a good idea.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 26 @ 8:21 PM ET
Giroux is a play maker Read is a shooter pair it together.

Voracek is a play maker not a shooter, Briere is a shooter, just seemed like a good idea.

- ob18

makes sense. My only objection to that combo is it seems a little undersized but otherwise seems like a good idea.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 26 @ 8:23 PM ET
makes sense. My only objection to that combo is it seems a little undersized but otherwise seems like a good idea.
- JoeRussomanno

I was about to say the same thing. I think Homer expects VCek to take the next step in his development this year.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 26 @ 8:24 PM ET
Everyone seems to like Talbot on the wing. Any solid 4th line centerman that win a high pct of faceoffs left?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 26 @ 8:24 PM ET
makes sense. My only objection to that combo is it seems a little undersized but otherwise seems like a good idea.
- JoeRussomanno


Just an idea, that's what they can use the pre-season for and may use during the season if things need a shake up.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 26 @ 8:27 PM ET
I will admit, with everything that happened, I am not really a fan of Bryzgalov.

Is this a make or break it season for him?

- flyer_nutter


you must have been listening to glen and ant'ne on wip today.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 26 @ 8:27 PM ET
I'm sure it's been said, but I'll say it anyway...

It sucks we didn't get Weber. It really does. But guess what??

Hartnell-Grioux-Simmonds
Voracek-Briere-Schenn
Read-Couturier-Wellwood
Rusty-Talbot-Rinaldo/Sestito

Timonen-Schenn
Coburn-Grossmann
Meszy-Gusty/Gervais

That's a Cup contender if Bryz plays even close to March-esque, which is very possible with a solid D-corps in front of him.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 26 @ 8:28 PM ET
Everyone seems to like Talbot on the wing. Any solid 4th line centerman that win a high pct of faceoffs left?
- jstross


Not really. Mike Zigomanis is a good faceoff guy, but doesn't do much else. Dominic Moore has family issues and is really more third line guy.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 26 @ 8:30 PM ET
Not really. Mike Zigomanis is a good faceoff guy, but doesn't do much else. Dominic Moore has family issues and is really more third line guy.
- Jsaquella

...yeah, isn't his wife in real bad shape?? That's a shame....couldn't even imagine....
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