doesn't Semin have a knack for scoring on Lundqvist too?
- JoeRussomanno

He scored pretty well in last years playoffs I believe.. Dont quote me though

Hey scored pretty well in last years playoffs I believe.. Dont quote me though
- Richieattack18

do you mean in the series against the rangers?

Edit: I just went and checked. He didn't much of anything last playoffs but year before (2011) he put up 3 goals in a 5 game series against the rags.

Hey scored pretty well in last years playoffs I believe.. Dont quote me though
- Richieattack18

Semin's had playoff years where he averaged a PPG, or close to it. In 09-10 and last season he didn't put up good numbers.

But he's had three very solid playoff scoring years.

do you mean in the series against the rangers?

Edit: I just went and checked. He didn't much of anything last playoffs but year before (2011) he put up 3 goals in a 5 game series against the rags.
- JoeRussomanno

Oh, I guess thats what I meant. I knew he had a good series some time...

I'm willing to give him a shot. Didn't seem like there were issues when he played for Hunter. For 3 years I don't think it be a total waste. He's a bankable 25 goals 30 something assists on that line. If he wanted to go to the K I think he'd be there by now. True I think his ethnicity has a stigma kind of a shame in this day and age.
- JoeRussomanno

No (and I don't mean to be disrespectful of you kind sir)

My thing about this Ryan stuff right now is, we can get him in a couple years for nothing if he's needed so damn bad. Let's find out what we got in the stable and if it really is that neccessary to add another forward Semin and doan are still out there. For Goodness sake we were about to throw almost 8 mill at Weber we can afford one of those two guys for 4-5 mill a year for three years.
- JoeRussomanno

Yes (Doan just costs money)

I really hope the empire doesn't feel the need to appease the mob right now, thus overpaying and welcoming disaster into our midst.
- JoeRussomanno

Hey Joe, you know what is great about that tweeter? He had to put legit into his twitter handle. Since he's legit I guess he doesn't have to add that fancy #CONFIRMED at the end?

Yes (Doan just costs money)
- Flyers1218

too much $$ and term for a 35+ contract IF rumors of what he's asking for are true. his intangibles are super, but he's really a 20 - 25 goal/ yr max guy at this point

Doan is the anit-Semin and he is worth a 3 year 18mill deal. What a role model he would be for Brayden Schenn. I think it would be a great thing to Doan.

too much $$ and term for a 35+ contract IF rumors of what he's asking for are true. his intangibles are super, but he's really a 20 - 25 goal/ yr max guy at this point
- isaiah520

I understand what you are saying. But Semin is a cancer. He is lazy and makes lazy plays. I can't fathom giving that guy the money instead of Doan. We have a a young impressionable team. Give them guys to look up to, not guys who are healthy scratched for being selfish.

Doan is the anit-Semin and he is worth a 3 year 18mill deal. What a role model he would be for Brayden Schenn. I think it would be a great thing to Doan.
- Flyers1218

Good point

I understand what you are saying. But Semin is a cancer. He is lazy and makes lazy plays. I can't fathom giving that guy the money instead of Doan. We have a a young impressionable team. Give them guys to look up to, not guys who are healthy scratched for being selfish.
- Flyers1218

No offense, but Semin is a +65 for his career. Again, I don't think he'll ever be a Selke finalist, but I don't think it is fair to put him in the Zherdev category either.

No offense, but Semin is a +65 for his career. Again, I don't think he'll ever be a Selke finalist, but I don't think it is fair to put him in the Zherdev category either.
- ravishingone

Semin's CORSI and other advanced stats are also almost uniformly good. Looking more deeply at the numbers won me over-I wouldn't be interested in a long deal for a ton of cash, but a 2 year deal with a $5mm-$6mm cap hit? I'd consider it strongly.

Semin's CORSI and other advanced stats are also almost uniformly good. Looking more deeply at the numbers won me over-I wouldn't be interested in a long deal for a ton of cash, but a 2 year deal with a $5mm-$6mm cap hit? I'd consider it strongly.
- Jsaquella

I'm really suprised he is still available. I think he could do very well with G and he would only cost money. However, if Ryan is available for Read + MAB/Gus + draft pick, I think the Flyers jump at that opportunity. Better to have a Jersey kid on the roster, then another dreaded red army guy.

I understand what you are saying. But Semin is a cancer. He is lazy and makes lazy plays. I can't fathom giving that guy the money instead of Doan. We have a a young impressionable team. Give them guys to look up to, not guys who are healthy scratched for being selfish.
- Flyers1218

if doan declines you're stuck with the contract...2 yrs max and I'm fine, but he won't go for it.

of course I like doan, but the big picture is that the flyers already have enuf dead $$/contracts and there's a lot of mileage on the plyr. they're going to have to get a dman w/in the next yr and I want the flexibility wherever possible.

I'm really surprised there wasn't anything coming out today that the Flyers tried to make an offer with player compensation to acquire Weber. If the Flyers offered both Schenn brothers, MAB and a 1st round pick, I would seriously consider that from the financial and hockey sense.

However, I think Homer is going to go into full blown panic move and either overpay for a Bobby Ryan or Dan Boyle. Personally, I wouldn't trade any assets except try and lure Visnovsky to waive his no-trade clause to come here instead of the Islanders for a 2nd round pick. I really think Luke Schenn can become a very good defenseman by learning from Derian Hatcher and when he feels better, maybe get advice from Pronger.

I know some people are opposed to signing him but I would give Semin a 2 year contract to see what you get. If it doesn't pan out, you could probably move him for a draft choice. The team would be in pretty good shape and I think they will be a 4 seed.

Hartnell-Giroux-Semin
Voracek-Briere-Schenn
Simmonds-Couturier-Read
Fedotenko-Talbot-Wellwood

Coburn-Grossman
Visnovsky-Meszaros
Timonen-Schenn

MAB/Gervais

Bryz
Leight

if doan declines you're stuck with the contract...2 yrs max and I'm fine, but he won't go for it.

of course I like doan, but the big picture is that the flyers already have enuf dead $$/contracts and there's a lot of mileage on the plyr. they're going to have to get a dman w/in the next yr and I want the flexibility wherever possible.
- isaiah520

I'm with you on Doan. If he was 32-33 I could bite. But as a power forward kind of guy, he's at that age where they can just suddenly lose it. As you say, scary on a 35+ contract

I'm really suprised he is still available. I think he could do very well with G and he would only cost money. However, if Ryan is available for Read + MAB/Gus + draft pick, I think the Flyers jump at that opportunity. Better to have a Jersey kid on the roster, then another dreaded red army guy.
- ravishingone

I'd be fine with Ryan for Read, MAB/Gus and a pick.

I think Semin would light poop up with Gsus

I'm really surprised there wasn't anything coming out today that the Flyers tried to make an offer with player compensation to acquire Weber. If the Flyers offered both Schenn brothers, MAB and a 1st round pick, I would seriously consider that from the financial and hockey sense.

However, I think Homer is going to go into full blown panic move and either overpay for a Bobby Ryan or Dan Boyle. Personally, I wouldn't trade any assets except try and lure Visnovsky to waive his no-trade clause to come here instead of the Islanders for a 2nd round pick. I really think Luke Schenn can become a very good defenseman by learning from Derian Hatcher and when he feels better, maybe get advice from Pronger.

I know some people are opposed to signing him but I would give Semin a 2 year contract to see what you get. If it doesn't pan out, you could probably move him for a draft choice. The team would be in pretty good shape and I think they will be a 4 seed.

Hartnell-Giroux-Semin
Voracek-Briere-Schenn
Simmonds-Couturier-Read
Fedotenko-Talbot-Wellwood

Coburn-Grossman
Visnovsky-Meszaros
Timonen-Schenn

MAB/Gervais

Bryz
Leight
- sulshawn

If one believes HockeyyInsiderr, Poile called Homer this morning as said give me the Schenn boys and 2 1sts or we will match.

It really seems Holmgren expected to end up getting Weber for the picks.

I'm really surprised there wasn't anything coming out today that the Flyers tried to make an offer with player compensation to acquire Weber. If the Flyers offered both Schenn brothers, MAB and a 1st round pick, I would seriously consider that from the financial and hockey sense.

However, I think Homer is going to go into full blown panic move and either overpay for a Bobby Ryan or Dan Boyle. Personally, I wouldn't trade any assets except try and lure Visnovsky to waive his no-trade clause to come here instead of the Islanders for a 2nd round pick. I really think Luke Schenn can become a very good defenseman by learning from Derian Hatcher and when he feels better, maybe get advice from Pronger.

I know some people are opposed to signing him but I would give Semin a 2 year contract to see what you get. If it doesn't pan out, you could probably move him for a draft choice. The team would be in pretty good shape and I think they will be a 4 seed.

Hartnell-Giroux-Semin
Voracek-Briere-Schenn
Simmonds-Couturier-Read
Fedotenko-Talbot-Wellwood

Coburn-Grossman
Visnovsky-Meszaros
Timonen-Schenn

MAB/Gervais

Bryz
Leight
- sulshawn

Honestly, if Homer didn't give up the moon for Weber, I don't see him panicking right now. Maybe just maybe the Preds were hell bent to match Weber to show they are a spending team. You can't stop owners from dipping into their own personal wealth to subsidize the cash flow of a hockey team. Personally, I think Visnovsky is cooked at his age. I think the Flyers will target Ryan, but no way is Coots or the Schenns moving.

I'm really suprised he is still available. I think he could do very well with G and he would only cost money. However, if Ryan is available for Read + MAB/Gus + draft pick, I think the Flyers jump at that opportunity. Better to have a Jersey kid on the roster, then another dreaded red army guy.
- ravishingone

If Visnovsky would waive his no trade, I would try and trade Read, MAB, Gustafsson and a 1st round pick for Visnovsky and Ryan.


Hartnell-Giroux-Ryan
Voracek-Briere-Schenn
Simmonds-Couturier-Fedotenko
Wellwood-Talbot-Sesito/Holmstrom

Cobrun-Grossmann
Visnovsky-Meszaros
Timonen-Schenn

Bryz
Leighton

Forward Depth: Cousins, Rinaldo, Zolneryck, Testuwide, Akesson, Laughton, Brown
Defense Depth: Gervais, Lilja, Manning, Lauridsen, Kessel, Mangene

If Visnovsky would waive his no trade, I would try and trade Read, MAB, Gustafsson and a 1st round pick for Visnovsky and Ryan.


Hartnell-Giroux-Ryan
Voracek-Briere-Schenn
Simmonds-Couturier-Fedotenko
Wellwood-Talbot-Sesito/Holmstrom

Cobrun-Grossmann
Visnovsky-Meszaros
Timonen-Schenn

Bryz
Leighton

Forward Depth: Cousins, Rinaldo, Zolneryck, Testuwide, Akesson, Laughton, Brown
Defense Depth: Gervais, Lilja, Manning, Lauridsen, Kessel, Mangene
- sulshawn

Right now Vishnovsky is property of the Islanders, pending his grievance hearing

If one believes HockeyyInsiderr, Poile called Homer this morning as said give me the Schenn boys and 2 1sts or we will match.

It really seems Holmgren expected to end up getting Weber for the picks.
- Jsaquella

Would have been tough but I would have given up Schenns and 2 1sts for Weber. You have Giroux-Couturier-Laughton as the team's center in next couple years and can sign a winger

I'd be fine with Ryan for Read, MAB/Gus and a pick.

I think Semin would light poop up with Gsus
- Jsaquella

I like Matt Read a lot, but I'm not sure his trade value will be any higher then right now. They've shown no interest in Semin to this point. However, I could wake up in the morning and see that he just signed a multi-year deal with the Flyers. Ryan at 3 yrs and $5.1 million for a 30 goal scorer is pretty good value. If they can keep Voracek and add Ryan somehow, I have no complaints.

Would have been tough but I would have given up Schenns and 2 1sts for Weber. You have Giroux-Couturier-Laughton as the team's center in next couple years and can sign a winger
- sulshawn

I would have agreed to that as well. Seems that Holmgren wasn't budging from Read-Mesz-Gus/MAB and a 1st