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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 10:42 PM ET
Absolute nightmare day.
- Hatchet

it actually was and not just on a flyer fan level for me today
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 24 @ 10:42 PM ET
I'd only want to give up assets for d at this point, so semin at the right term/$$ might be worth it instead of pissing away an ELC like read and a dman we can't spare for Ryan.
- isaiah520


Agreed, I can't see them giving up any of the top 5 in a Ryan trade. At this point, might be time to see if a MAB, Gus, or Manning can improve and eat up some decent minutes and review the blueline at the trade deadline. I really don't have a problem with Semin, at this point the money and term can't be that bad because it is so late in free agency. I think he would do very well with G.

I think Lava is very high on MAB. He started game 1 against the Pens, and played 16 minutes/game during the regular season. I think he trusts him.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 10:44 PM ET
I'd only want to give up assets for d at this point, so semin at the right term/$$ might be worth it instead of pissing away an ELC like read and a dman we can't spare for Ryan.
- isaiah520

My thing about this Ryan stuff right now is, we can get him in a couple years for nothing if he's needed so damn bad. Let's find out what we got in the stable and if it really is that neccessary to add another forward Semin and doan are still out there. For Goodness sake we were about to throw almost 8 mill at Weber we can afford one of those two guys for 4-5 mill a year for three years.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 10:45 PM ET
Agreed, I think he wants to stay in the NHL. This guy is treated like a cancer, his career +/- is on the favorable side. His best years came under the Boudreau's system, which was a two man forecheck. I think he would do well in Lava's system.
- ravishingone

U know that about 30% of his criticism is from his name alone
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 24 @ 10:48 PM ET
Does the Nash trade at all affect the asking price for Ryan?
- iroc4me2


Of course, which is a good thing.

He might not have a NTC, but Ryan wants out and he's made that crystal clear.

I'd offer Read, MAB/Gus, and a 1st. No more.

If not, oh well. Move on and make moves at the deadline then. I fully expect us to be major players for Enstrom come deadline time. He's the ideal Kimmo replacement, I've always said this. No, he doesn't have #44's defensive acumen yet, but he is the perfect guy to run and QB the PP. I'm sure his defensive game will develop as well in later years.
LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jul 24 @ 10:48 PM ET
My thing about this Ryan stuff right now is, we can get him in a couple years for nothing if he's needed so damn bad. Let's find out what we got in the stable and if it really is that neccessary to add another forward Semin and doan are still out there. For Goodness sake we were about to throw almost 8 mill at Weber we can afford one of those two guys for 4-5 mill a year for three years.
- JoeRussomanno


Obviously it depends on the price. Eskin went on record saying I'd cost Read, Gus, and a high pick.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 10:50 PM ET
Obviously it depends on the price. Eskin went on record saying I'd cost Read, Gus, and a high pick.
- LordStanley88

i'm at my wits end really.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jul 24 @ 10:51 PM ET
i'm at my wits end really.
- JoeRussomanno


Short trip, eh Joe?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 10:54 PM ET
Short trip, eh Joe?
- tangent_man

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 10:54 PM ET
Of course, which is a good thing.

He might not have a NTC, but Ryan wants out and he's made that crystal clear.

I'd offer Read, MAB/Gus, and a 1st. No more.

If not, oh well. Move on and make moves at the deadline then. I fully expect us to be major players for Enstrom come deadline time. He's the ideal Kimmo replacement, I've always said this. No, he doesn't have #44's defensive acumen yet, but he is the perfect guy to run and QB the PP. I'm sure his defensive game will develop as well in later years.

- LordStanley88



I would wait and see if Ryan definitely wants out. He made an emotional response to learning he was being discussed in trades. Haven't heard a lot about it since.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jul 24 @ 10:56 PM ET

- JoeRussomanno




Though I figured you would have found one with a finger in it...
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 10:59 PM ET


Though I figured you would have found one with a finger in it...

- tangent_man

I just got done painting the walls in my house in a color that starts with F and ends rhyming with luck, only so much of bastardizing creation's greatest gift to man I can do in one day.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jul 24 @ 11:00 PM ET
1h Rumour_Express‏@InsiderLegit

Before I go to the meeting... Regarding Bobby Ryan, hearing Anahiem and Flyers had talked today about Bobby Ryan, and will make an offer
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 11:00 PM ET
I would wait and see if Ryan definitely wants out. He made an emotional response to learning he was being discussed in trades. Haven't heard a lot about it since.
- MJL

He grew up in Cherry hill with Bob Clarke as his Godfather. You don't think he wants bad as hell to play here?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 24 @ 11:01 PM ET
My thing about this Ryan stuff right now is, we can get him in a couple years for nothing if he's needed so damn bad. Let's find out what we got in the stable and if it really is that neccessary to add another forward Semin and doan are still out there. For Goodness sake we were about to throw almost 8 mill at Weber we can afford one of those two guys for 4-5 mill a year for three years.
- JoeRussomanno

I think semin is the way to go cause doan's gonna get ~6 MM for 3 or 4 yrs which is ridiculous.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 11:01 PM ET
1h Rumour_Express‏@InsiderLegit

Before I go to the meeting... Regarding Bobby Ryan, hearing Anahiem and Flyers had talked today about Bobby Ryan, and will make an offer

- Richieattack18

I really hope the empire doesn't feel the need to appease the mob right now, thus overpaying and welcoming disaster into our midst.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 11:02 PM ET
He grew up in Cherry hill with Bob Clarke as his Godfather. You don't think he wants bad as hell to play here?
- JoeRussomanno


I'm sure he would love to play for the Flyers. But I think the weight that that is given is far overblown.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 24 @ 11:02 PM ET
Please, please no Semin. If we must, no more than a 1 year deal. He will light it up during the regular season and disappear against tougher opponents and during playoffs. He will take away time from the younger players. I would much rather we miss the playoffs and get a good pick.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 11:02 PM ET
I'm sure he would love to play for the Flyers. But I think the weight that that is given is far overblown.
- MJL

okay, i can deal with that.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 24 @ 11:04 PM ET
Please, please no Semin. If we must, no more than a 1 year deal. He will light it up during the regular season and disappear against tougher opponents and during playoffs. He will take away time from the younger players. I would much rather we miss the playoffs and get a good pick.
- PT21


They're not missing the playoffs
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 11:04 PM ET
I think semin is the way to go cause doan's gonna get ~6 MM for 3 or 4 yrs which is ridiculous.
- isaiah520

same here.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 11:05 PM ET
They're not missing the playoffs
- Jsaquella

yea they might not be the best team in the conference but they're a far cry from the 9th seed, that's for sure.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 24 @ 11:06 PM ET
I'm sure he would love to play for the Flyers. But I think the weight that that is given is far overblown.
- MJL


The guy has a flyers symbol tattoo on his butt cheek. But it has been proven that a player cant dictate where he plays.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 24 @ 11:06 PM ET
Please, please no Semin. If we must, no more than a 1 year deal. He will light it up during the regular season and disappear against tougher opponents and during playoffs. He will take away time from the younger players. I would much rather we miss the playoffs and get a good pick.
- PT21


We need a winger though. I'm not sure Semin really will take too much ice time away from the Schenn's and Couturier's. If Briere is moved to wing, those two will get their ice time
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 11:08 PM ET
doesn't Semin have a knack for scoring on Lundqvist too?
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