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Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 24 @ 9:38 PM ET
Weber tested RFA. He didn't demand to be traded. I didn't see any report that said Nashville don't match cause I'm not playing there. He signed an offer sheet and knew the possibility of returning to Nashville. Weber is getting his money. If he was that concerned he should of signed any offer sheet, play out the year and become an UFA. He didn't do that b/c of the new CBA so he choose to get paid.
- stveshdy

The person I talked to also said that Weber and his people were "surprised" by what happened. They clearly thought he was out of Nashville and on his way to Philadelphia. His people thought that the offer sheet made it clear he didn't want to be in Nashville and thats when they went on to say Weber is less than thrilled with what happened. In fact, the quote was all parties are pretty unhappy today.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 9:39 PM ET
He'll play 2-3 years max on that contract in Nashville IMO.
- eayost

Agreed.
right-winger
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 07.21.2012

Jul 24 @ 9:40 PM ET
So...are there any other top pairing defensemen with a big, right-handed shot that can QB the power play available?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:40 PM ET
The person I talked to also said that Weber and his people were "surprised" by what happened. They clearly thought he was out of Nashville and on his way to Philadelphia. His people thought that the offer sheet made it clear he didn't want to be in Nashville and thats when they went on to say Weber is less than thrilled with what happened. In fact, the quote was all parties are pretty unhappy today.
- Flyers1218


Lets see what Weber has to say. He is the only person that counts and at some point he will have to talk.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 24 @ 9:41 PM ET
So...are there any other top pairing defensemen with a big, right-handed shot that can QB the power play available?
- right-winger

No
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:41 PM ET
Weber tested RFA. He didn't demand to be traded. I didn't see any report that said Nashville don't match cause I'm not playing there. He signed an offer sheet and knew the possibility of returning to Nashville. Weber is getting his money. If he was that concerned he shouldn't of signed any offer sheet, play out the year and become an UFA. He didn't do that b/c of the new CBA so he choose to get paid.
- stveshdy


All of that doesn't mean he's way less than thrilled at being matched though. He gets the money regardless, but he may indeed have rather earned it in Philly. I think that's what makes this situation more annoying to get over than just losing out on a UFA. He supposedly wanted to come here.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Jul 24 @ 9:41 PM ET
Nashville is taking their good ole sweet time in deciding whether to match or not, eh?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 24 @ 9:41 PM ET
Lets see what Weber has to say. He is the only person that counts and at some point he will have to talk.
- stveshdy

Wonder what would happen if he just goes ape poop. At that point if your Nashville hulu know you made 26 million mistake
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 9:42 PM ET
Lets see what Weber has to say. He is the only person that counts and at some point he will have to talk.
- stveshdy


Even if he is very unhappy, he isn't going to say that he is. At least I don't think he will. What we'll probably get is a statement written by his agent released. With the standard blah,blah, blah!
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:42 PM ET
Lets see what Weber has to say. He is the only person that counts and at some point he will have to talk.
- stveshdy


He certainly can't say anything negative at this point. Let's see in 1-3 years
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 24 @ 9:44 PM ET
Nashville is taking their good ole sweet time in deciding whether to match or not, eh?
- KGBflyers10

You didn't use the sarcasm emoticon
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 24 @ 9:44 PM ET
Even if he is very unhappy, he isn't going to say that he is. At least I don't think he will. What we'll probably get is a statement written by his agent released. With the standard blah,blah, blah!
- MJL

I'm sure hell get his Ntc/Nmc or else it's gonna turn real ugly real fast
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 24 @ 9:45 PM ET
Question for you. If they didn't move one them for the best defenseman in the NHL, why would they suddenly do it for someone not as good. It's over dude. They aren't moving them.
- Flyers1218

we don't know that NSH didn't want both of them...and it's never over
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:45 PM ET
All of that doesn't mean he's way less than thrilled at being matched though. He gets the money regardless, but he may indeed have rather earned it in Philly. I think that's what makes this situation more annoying to get over than just losing out on a UFA. He supposedly wanted to come here.
- eayost


I don't know. I'm not Shea Weber but I think Nashville had to talk to him before the offer sheet was coming and told him they would match anything.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 9:45 PM ET
How was it a giveaway? They got a very good young defenseman that has a lot of potential. Luke Schenn has as much potential as a defenseman as JVR had as a forward. Are we again labeling a player before he has even played a game for the Flyers?
- MJL


Luke is going to be great in Philly. I've felt like the d has been missing a big physical player back there for some time . Happy to have acquired 270 hits with low pims. My guess is schenn moves up the depth chart this season. Can't wait.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:45 PM ET
I really thought by tomorrow night I'd be able to change my location. :/ There's no telling how long I'll have to keep this up
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 24 @ 9:46 PM ET
Even if he is very unhappy, he isn't going to say that he is. At least I don't think he will. What we'll probably get is a statement written by his agent released. With the standard blah,blah, blah!
- MJL


yep, that's what we got today wasn't it. The agent that was over the top pro-flyers last week, was oddly over-the top pro nashville today considering his comments last week.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:47 PM ET
I really thought by tomorrow night I'd be able to change my location. :/ There's no telling how long I'll have to keep this up
- eayost


They got you Luke Schenn.

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:48 PM ET
Even if he is very unhappy, he isn't going to say that he is. At least I don't think he will. What we'll probably get is a statement written by his agent released. With the standard blah,blah, blah!
- MJL


That was my original post about Rick Nash. He did come out and say it and demanded to be traded.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:49 PM ET
I don't know. I'm not Shea Weber but I think Nashville had to talk to him before the offer sheet was coming and told him they would match anything.
- stveshdy


Holmgren didn't give them what they wanted. I don't think they were going to match under all circumstances... they were going to match if they didn't get enough value for their player. If Holmgren called them this morning and told them he'll give them B Schenn and Couturier, Weber would be a Flyer. Weber could be annoyed at Holmgren for not doing what it took to get the deal done too. Only he'd know for sure. Still, of course, he needed to be prepared for the possibility of today's outcome. Doesn't mean he's necessarily thrilled about it, but the $110M offsets that. Though, he already had that last thursday.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 9:50 PM ET
Luke is going to be great in Philly. I've felt like the d has been missing a big physical player back there for some time . Happy to have acquired 270 hits with low pims. My guess is schenn moves up the depth chart this season. Can't wait.
- moylander



Has already shown that he can play well in this League as a very young defenseman. He has a real chance to be a very good physical defenseman in this League. And can also move the puck decently. And provide some secondary offense. And the Flyers have show to do a real good job taking on defenseman that have had some downs, and build up their confidence and built them back up.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 24 @ 9:50 PM ET
looking for good news?

next yrs draft is expected to be the best in ten yrs and we still have our 1st rndr





eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 24 @ 9:50 PM ET
They got you Luke Schenn.


- stveshdy


He, if he turns whatever corner he needs to and becomes one, I'll gladly remove it
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 24 @ 9:51 PM ET
They got you Luke Schenn.


- stveshdy

Come on guy don't knock on Luke... I think he might surprise the hell out of people I can't wait
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 24 @ 9:52 PM ET
Even if he is very unhappy, he isn't going to say that he is. At least I don't think he will. What we'll probably get is a statement written by his agent released. With the standard blah,blah, blah!
- MJL

i emphatically agree with this assessment
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