What sucks is that the rangers have the better offensive group, the better defensive group, and the better goalie


and none of that is debatable.


But I still love the Flyers for trying
- Just5

I think we all know someone will try and debate it.

What sucks is that the rangers have the better offensive group, the better defensive group, and the better goalie


and none of that is debatable.


But I still love the Flyers for trying
- Just5

Rangers are a better hockey team. Today, on paper.

Rangers are a better hockey team. Today, on paper.
- Flyers1218

Agreed, but they aren't better offensively. No way.

Rangers are a better hockey team. Today, on paper.
- Flyers1218

Dear1 is right, Bobby Ryan will be here by the end of the week.

I think Semin to Pitt and Doan to the Rangers.........if we got Weber I think Doan wouldve chosen here........

In a second...
- aosplayo

no way...give them time and you will see.

Rangers are a better hockey team. Today, on paper.
- Flyers1218

They are better on the ice too, by a longshot.

no way...give them time and you will see.
- Philly1980

I in noway wanted to imply I didnt think theyd be good players, just that for Shea Weber, yea I woudlve done it.......but yea theyll be good, Im excited for them

Anyone else see David Pagnotta's tweets??? WOW!

"So it seems the one word Weber feels about the Preds matching the offer is "surprised"

"As @DennisTFP & I discussed offline, seems the Preds, Flyers, and Weber aren't over thrilled about this whole turn of events. #greatsituation"

I'm befuddled. If the Preds are pissed and Shea is pissed (obviously the Flyers are pissed) then pardon my language, but what the (frank) gives here? Were their ego's bruised that badly? If the situation sucks for every party involved including yourselves, why the (frank) would you match? This is going to have a very bad ending for them. Should have taken the picks.

A lot of people wanted this team to grow together and keep the core intact before the offer sheet well Homer did exactly that. Homer refused to get rid of his young guns. I'm not sure what the next move is but the Flyers will still have a solid team heading into next season. I don't think this team is complete yet so I do expect one more move from Holmgren.
- stveshdy

Amen brother!

we should be thankfull for the team that we have.

I saw that blog yesterday when the Rangers traded for Nash. It said "Rangers answer" What exactly were they answering?

Glad homer stood pat. Sad Poile matched.

Finally we can move on with the offseason.

Anyone else see David Pagnotta's tweets??? WOW!

"So it seems the one word Weber feels about the Preds matching the offer is "surprised"

"As @DennisTFP & I discussed offline, seems the Preds, Flyers, and Weber aren't over thrilled about this whole turn of events. #greatsituation"

I'm befuddled. If the Preds are pissed and Shea is pissed (obviously the Flyers are pissed) then pardon my language, but what the (frank) gives here? Were their ego's bruised that badly? If the situation sucks for every party involved including yourselves, why the (frank) would you match? This is going to have a very bad ending for them. Should have taken the picks.
- Flyers1218

lol if they dont pay him the match is negated.

Preds matched...lol...lets see if they can pay now...

Dear1 is right, Bobby Ryan will be here by the end of the week.

I think Semin to Pitt and Doan to the Rangers.........if we got Weber I think Doan wouldve chosen here........
- aosplayo

The Ducks GM has Holmer by the balls in a Ryan deal

Agreed, but they aren't better offensively. No way.
- LordStanley88

Nash, Gaborik, Richards, Callahan, Kreider, Hagelin, Stepan, and Boyle are every bit as potent as Giroux, Hartnell, Briere, Simmonds, Couterier, Schenn, Voracek, and Read. I even give the Rangers an edge.

I saw that blog yesterday when the Rangers traded for Nash. It said "Rangers answer" What exactly were they answering?
- PLindbergh31

They started getting scared when homers balls gre so big that they started having their own gravitational pull....

That org is toast by xmas.....

Anyone else see David Pagnotta's tweets??? WOW!

"So it seems the one word Weber feels about the Preds matching the offer is "surprised"

"As @DennisTFP & I discussed offline, seems the Preds, Flyers, and Weber aren't over thrilled about this whole turn of events. #greatsituation"

I'm befuddled. If the Preds are pissed and Shea is pissed (obviously the Flyers are pissed) then pardon my language, but what the (frank) gives here? Were their ego's bruised that badly? If the situation sucks for every party involved including yourselves, why the (frank) would you match? This is going to have a very bad ending for them. Should have taken the picks.
- Flyers1218

Maybe at the start, the Preds actually figured Holmgren would hand them what they wanted (or very close to it). Holmgren thought he could get Weber for picks, or a lower package. Weber probably really did want to be in Philly. Nothing gave.


Or these guys are exaggerating a bit about things they don't really know about.

Agreed, but they aren't better offensively. No way.
- LordStanley88

When I take 4 Rangers forwards before I take 2 Flyers forwards....I call the Rangers a better offensive group. It remains to be seen how they gel. But on paper, little debate as far as NEXT year goes.

They are better on the ice too, by a longshot.
- PLindbergh31

Puck hasn't even been dropped dude. Can't say that yet.

The Ducks GM has Holmer by the balls in a Ryan deal
- Just5

I'd have "overpaid" for Weber before Ryan. I can't give them Voracek, a real defenseman (Meszaros) and something for Ryan. If that's what it'd take, screw it.

The Ducks GM has Holmer by the balls in a Ryan deal
- Just5

Homer's balls sure get a workout in this blog, no wonder they are swollen

Maybe at the start, the Preds actually figured Holmgren would hand them what they wanted (or very close to it). Holmgren thought he could get Weber for picks, or a lower package. Weber probably really did want to be in Philly. Nothing gave.


Or these guys are exaggerating a bit about things they don't really know about.
- eayost

I don't know. Dreger let on too that Weber is surprised. And by the tone of things, surprised doesn't seem to mean pleasantly. When he signed this offer sheet, this was always an option, but it really seems like he thought for whatever reason from somewhere that there was no chance Preds could or would touch this. And it seems like the Preds aren't too confident they made the right decision. From reading the overall tone of all the tweets, I'm getting the impression that even the Preds know they just ended their franchise.

Puck hasn't even been dropped dude. Can't say that yet.
- Flyers1218

Well they did win all 6 games against the Flyers last season so it holds water.

When I take 4 Rangers forwards before I take 2 Flyers forwards....I call the Rangers a better offensive group. It remains to be seen how they gel. But on paper, little debate as far as NEXT year goes.
- Just5

I dont think nash and torts are going to mix well, i see them in a freefall by xmas....with that being said they are better on paper

I'd have "overpaid" for Weber before Ryan. I can't give them Voracek, a real defenseman (Meszaros) and something for Ryan. If that's what it'd take, screw it.
- eayost

No I wouldn't either. What incentive does Anaheim have to move him? And why shouldn't they get a legit 2nd line center for him if they wanted to?

Well they did win all 6 games against the Flyers last season so it holds water.
- ob18

Flyers won 4 of 6 the year before. It varies year to year.