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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 5:39 PM ET
how about i can say whatever the (frank) i want emoticon
- richiewinthecup

okay fine if I can get a stop crying like a female dog over nothing emoticon settled #confirmed
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 24 @ 5:40 PM ET
The Mayans are right
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 24 @ 5:40 PM ET
We have a young talented team. Weber wouldn't have made us cup favorites. NY is. He would have made us better. No doubt. Team defense will win us a cup. Not one player. I like this team a lot. Besides. Homer said he likes this team, not loves it. He will add.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 5:41 PM ET
The Mayans are right
- KINGKENZO

yay
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 24 @ 5:41 PM ET
Why trade for Ryan when you can put an offer sheet out for Evander Kane?

I think the offer sheet door has been kicked the heck open
richiewinthecup
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: canada
Joined: 04.07.2010

Jul 24 @ 5:42 PM ET
Mods might disagree. You cant even mention movies here without getting a ban.
- RooNosHockey
whatever i will wait to see what happens in the next 2 months,i dont think this team stacks up against the big boys right now but time will tell
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 5:42 PM ET
Why trade for Ryan when you can put an offer sheet out for Evander Kane?

I think the offer sheet door has been kicked the heck open

- aosplayo

another 7 days of that poop... ah what the hell go for it
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 24 @ 5:42 PM ET
I was just talking about this with my brother. I think the Rangers are twice the team the Flyers are as currently constructed ON PAPER. Doesn't necessarily mean anything. The Rangers D is scary, especially if they get Sauer back:

Coburn Grossman MDZ Staal


- Flyers1218


I am not sure this is better, if Grossmann is the pre-injury Grossmann and Coburn is the playoffs Coburn.


Simmonds Briere Schenn Kreider Stepan Callahan


- Flyers1218

And I am not sure that line is better either


The key is that the Rsngers play as a team, while we are a feast or famine team and generally have a tough time against solid defensive teams. In particular, though Briere gets his points on breakaways and powerplays, his line is largely ineffectual against tight checking, physical teams.
GeorgeBailey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 24 @ 5:43 PM ET
Provided your business is improving and has solid fundamentals, it is not difficult to match imbalances between revenue and expenses. There are things called banks, which offer loans, for instance.
- PT21



For which, the banks like to collect interest. They really like it when the EBITDA is much greater than the I.

Just bustin' your balls.

What this says is that the billionaire guy is going to put in a bunch of cash and get a greater percentage of the ownership. He must have significant liquidity and believe that his equity value in his primary business will be strong over the long haul (unlike Research in Motion, which, five years ago you would have thought would be around forever rather than seemingly beginning its end phase - can anyone say Treo?). The Predators will be his toy. Unless they win a Cup or two SOON, even under relatively favorable conditions, it is unlikely the team will be cash flow positive for at least 5 or 6 years. That is a long time to be eating cash. Clearly, while a significant financial decision, I doubt it was one made with the concept of MAKING money.
richiewinthecup
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: canada
Joined: 04.07.2010

Jul 24 @ 5:43 PM ET
okay fine if I can get a stop crying like a female dog over nothing emoticon settled #confirmed
- JoeRussomanno
agreed
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:43 PM ET
plays an NHL game or plays for my team w/ exp? lilja clearly was inadequate as a full time #6 dman if that's what you're referring to. guess we can dig up the corpses of vandermeer, randy jones and proposed Jeff carter trades.

and I wouldn't want to go out on a limb if I was afraid that I couldn't handle it. I don't mind staking out a position and I'll own up to being wrong.

- isaiah520


Lilja clearly wasn't signed to be a full time #6 D man. And he wasn't a full time #6 D man. He played 46 games for the Flyers last year. Which is a little over half a Season. And he played adequately. As you would expect. And he clearly didn't suck.

But none of that really matters. But here is my main point. Which hasn't really changed since the original discussion about Lilja last year at this time.

Why not let them play before we decide a player sucks, or the defense isn't any good.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 5:43 PM ET
I am not sure this is better, if Grossmann is the pre-injury Grossmann and Coburn is the playoffs Coburn.


And I am not sure that line is better either


The key is that the Rsngers play as a team, while we are a feast or famine team and generally have a tough time against solid defensive teams. In particular, though Briere gets his points on breakaways and powerplays, his line is largely ineffectual against tight checking, physical teams.

- PT21

*runs for cover
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 24 @ 5:43 PM ET
We have a young talented team. Weber wouldn't have made us cup favorites. NY is. He would have made us better. No doubt. Team defense will win us a cup. Not one player. I like this team a lot. Besides. Homer said he likes this team, not loves it. He will add.
- Deasr1

indeed he will
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jul 24 @ 5:43 PM ET
I think that this just means the penguins and rags will be booed louder in the 2014 draft
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 5:44 PM ET
agreed

- richiewinthecup

hugs
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 24 @ 5:44 PM ET
another 7 days of that poop... ah what the hell go for it
- JoeRussomanno




EvanderWatch2012

They cant match, small market

Theyll match, hes their franchise player


*Insert countdown clock here*


NHL exec says theyll match...........we trade for Bobby Ryan
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 5:45 PM ET
I'm tending to think the things the Flyers have been running from all these years, like being patient and trusting young players to develop, might be forced upon them this year, thus being their true deliverance.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 24 @ 5:46 PM ET
Lilja clearly wasn't signed to be a full time #6 D man. And he wasn't a full time #6 D man. He played 46 games for the Flyers last year. Which is a little over half a Season. And he played adequately. As you would expect. And he clearly didn't suck.

But none of that really matters. But here is my main point. Which hasn't really changed since the original discussion about Lilja last year at this team.

Why not let them play before we decide a player sucks, or the defense isn't any good.

- MJL

we'll never agree about lilja and I feel that the d isn't good enuf...not that it sucks. we need a puck mover.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 24 @ 5:46 PM ET
I'm tending to think the things the Flyers have been running from all these years, like being patient and trusting young players to develop, might be forced upon them this year, thus being their true deliverance.
- JoeRussomanno





Man does this open Pandoras Box
shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

Jul 24 @ 5:47 PM ET
Bobby Ryan and Pk Subban............do it!
- aosplayo

Not gonna happen.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 24 @ 5:47 PM ET
EvanderWatch2012

They cant match, small market

Theyll match, hes their franchise player


*Insert countdown clock here*


NHL exec says theyll match...........we trade for Bobby Ryan

- aosplayo

offer sheet somebody dammit! scorched earth!


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:47 PM ET
We have a young talented team. Weber wouldn't have made us cup favorites. NY is. He would have made us better. No doubt. Team defense will win us a cup. Not one player. I like this team a lot. Besides. Homer said he likes this team, not loves it. He will add.
- Deasr1


I would beg to differ there. Adding Weber would certainly elevate the Flyers to Cup favorites. Maybe not the favorite. But certainly one of them. Weber is that good.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:47 PM ET
I just want to thank Hammarby for posting this a few days ago... I've literally watched it 15 times since the news broke, my toddlers love it.

- JoeRussomanno


glad i could help. there's more of that clip - look up batman dance and batman on drugs. funny stuff.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 24 @ 5:51 PM ET
I'm tending to think the things the Flyers have been running from all these years, like being patient and trusting young players to develop, might be forced upon them this year, thus being their true deliverance.
- JoeRussomanno


Repeat of '87, with a "happy ending" ?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:52 PM ET
we'll never agree about lilja and I feel that the d isn't good enuf...not that it sucks. we need a puck mover.
- isaiah520



There doesn't need to be an agreement. There is only how it is. And that's that Lilja was exactly what he was brought in to be. A veteran depth defenseman, who can play and won't kill you out there. If you were expecting more, then it is the expectations that are the issue.

They lost Carle, so there are some puck movement elements that are missing. But there is also an opportunity for other players such as Meszaros. You never know how a mix of players is going to turn out.
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