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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 5:19 PM ET
you should get a Flyers Weber jersey with 20% on the back instead of #6
- Crimsoninja


I'm not afraid to make a prediction and unfortunately I was wrong. I'm eating crow but Homer did exactly what I said, stand pat and force them to match.
richiewinthecup
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: canada
Joined: 04.07.2010

Jul 24 @ 5:19 PM ET
all i can say is that coots and schenn better become (frank)ing all stars
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 24 @ 5:19 PM ET
Your star player punched another player in the jewels. I can't debate a Pens fan until an admission that such an act is not so cool.
- Daman

neither of these teams are angels. they are both some of the dirtiest ones in the league, especially when they play each other. i would not defend that action in the slightest though. crosby does not have a halo above his helmet, no matter how badly gary bettman would like there to be one. however, nor do hartnell or giroux.
thephillynut
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jul 24 @ 5:20 PM ET
No-one said Jake... Said read and Bourdon.
- RooNosHockey



I personally would not give up Read. He had 24 goals last year and could potentially hit 30+ this year with the absence of JVR and Jagr. he only has a 900,000 cap hit.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 5:20 PM ET
No thanks
- Deasr1


One thing we know Homer is probably back working the phones looking to bolster this team.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:20 PM ET
I'm not afraid to make a prediction and unfortunately I was wrong. I'm eating crow but Homer did exactly what I said, stand pat and force them to match.
- stveshdy

haha didnt mean to rip you or suggest you eat crow

i actually respected how you stood firm.. and homer did too.. just as you suggested
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:21 PM ET
oh the Weber outside looks frightful
- vejim



glad i saw this
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 24 @ 5:21 PM ET
One thing we know Homer is probably back working the phones looking to bolster this team.
- stveshdy




yup. should remain entertaining in here
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 24 @ 5:21 PM ET
Like to see Homer go after Dan Boyle.
- stveshdy

last legs there...wearing down a little like kimmo
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:22 PM ET
all i can say is that coots and schenn better become (frank)ing all stars
- richiewinthecup

both schenns
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 24 @ 5:22 PM ET
One thing we know Homer is probably back working the phones looking to bolster this team.
- stveshdy


Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:22 PM ET
Like to see Homer go after Dan Boyle.
- stveshdy



4 or 5 years ago yes
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 24 @ 5:22 PM ET
To me, it was never a question if Preds could match but one of the economic wisdom of doing it versus the hockey/PR need to keep their franchise player. That's why, all along, I said a no-match trade would be best route to go for both sides.

There really isn't much for Preds to "celebrate" here, as this move basically undoes their improved financials (especially if there's a lockout of any length) and yet only leaves the team with a lessened version of 2011-12 status quo (still have Weber but Suter is gone).

Meanwhile, the Preds are on the hook for $33M to two players over the next 11 months, plus their other 2012-13 payroll, plus they need to prepare for having up to 12 free agents next summer.

Financially, the Preds' decision to match and operate even deeper off the owners' personal wealth while sponging off revenue shares is about as questionable as it comes.

- bmeltzer


Yea, they're sure to attract all the free agents now. Nashville has shown it can play with the big boys... letting other teams negotiate their contracts
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 24 @ 5:22 PM ET
IMO a fan of a franchise that has enjoyed an inordinate amount of success over the past 20 years doesn't have the right to tell a fan of a team who hasn't enjoyed the success how to feel. Just my opinion, you or anyone else doesn't have to agree.
- PLindbergh31

if thats your logic then fine. im not trying to start anything. although it sucks to admit but although the flyers havent been able to seal the deal in the post season, they are consistently one of the most competitive and successful teams in the entire league year in and year out. the pens have been a much smaller market who were fortunate enough to not only get mario back in the day, but have him act in the manner in which he did to help the team stay afloat.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 5:23 PM ET
haha didnt mean to rip you or suggest you eat crow

i actually respected how you stood firm.. and homer did too.. just as you suggested

- Crimsoninja


Its cool. I didn't take it that way. This is the aftermath of them matching but if they didn't Homer looks like a genius.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 24 @ 5:23 PM ET
neither of these teams are angels. they are both some of the dirtiest ones in the league, especially when they play each other. i would not defend that action in the slightest though. crosby does not have a halo above his helmet, no matter how badly gary bettman would like there to be one. however, nor do hartnell or giroux.
- stayinthefnnet


Hartnell, pound for pound, may be the worst fighter in the league. However, when he fights:

1) it is always face to face
2) punches are never of the donkey punch variety

99% of the league adheres to such rules. One player, with phonetically a girl's name, does not.

Because of this fact, I can't debate a wester PA hockey fan.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:24 PM ET
They're done at Goalie. They didn't sign Leighton to play in the minors.
- MJL


the last time they signed him he ended up in the minors
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 24 @ 5:25 PM ET
if thats your logic then fine. im not trying to start anything. although it sucks to admit but although the flyers havent been able to seal the deal in the post season, they are consistently one of the most competitive and successful teams in the entire league year in and year out. the pens have been a much smaller market who were fortunate enough to not only get mario back in the day, but have him act in the manner in which he did to help the team stay afloat.
- stayinthefnnet


It's cool. No worries. My apologies for suggesting your opinion wasn't valid. That was out of line.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 24 @ 5:25 PM ET
maybe this scene puts everything back into perspective for everyone
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 5:25 PM ET
last legs there...wearing down a little like kimmo
- isaiah520


Not that I disagree but he can still move the puck and is good at both ends of the ice. Flyers can only go after players that are available. I just hope Bouwmeester doesn't become an option now.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 24 @ 5:26 PM ET
the last time they signed him he ended up in the minors
- Dkos

He went into the season as the #1 goalie.

What the (frank)
thephillynut
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jul 24 @ 5:26 PM ET

- PLindbergh31



He is looking to bring back retired goalie Guy "He-bert"
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 24 @ 5:26 PM ET
To me, it was never a question if Preds could match but one of the economic wisdom of doing it versus the hockey/PR need to keep their franchise player. That's why, all along, I said a no-match trade would be best route to go for both sides.

There really isn't much for Preds to "celebrate" here, as this move basically undoes their improved financials (especially if there's a lockout of any length) and yet only leaves the team with a lessened version of 2011-12 status quo (still have Weber but Suter is gone).

Meanwhile, the Preds are on the hook for $33M to two players over the next 11 months, plus their other 2012-13 payroll, plus they need to prepare for having up to 12 free agents next summer.

Financially, the Preds' decision to match and operate even deeper off the owners' personal wealth while sponging off revenue shares is about as questionable as it comes.

- bmeltzer


I tweeted that today might be looked upon as the one where the preds took a time released cyanide capsule
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:27 PM ET
can't recall that I've had any more than anyone else here, including you.

if the flyers add the right dman, they're right there, but these plyrs are hard to find.

- isaiah520


I don't make premature predictions on whether a player is a good player or not, before he even plays a game. Especially based on what a media member says. I let the player actually play and see him play before making that analysis. Nor am I prepared to say that right now the Flyers can't contend.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jul 24 @ 5:27 PM ET
Not that I disagree but he can still move the puck and is good at both ends of the ice. Flyers can only go after players that are available. I just hope Bouwmeester doesn't become an option now.
- stveshdy



Might as well go after J-Bo now.

Tell Homer to go home tonight, pound a couple Tequila shots (today's the day?), drink a 12 pack, and start NHL beer goggling.
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