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aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jul 24 @ 5:03 PM ET


BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:03 PM ET
the routine got old years ago bro
probably around the time you spent all of 2010 calling the team 'gutless pukes' and then hopped right back on the bandwagon when they went to the finals

- Crimsoninja


x2
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:03 PM ET
When does the decades of not winning a Cup get old "bro"? 2050, 2055, 2060?
- PLindbergh31

then bail, honestly

if its such a hardship for you to root for this team it seems bizarre that you continue to do so.

but i guess you'd rather just sit back and rip basically every move for years on end and then backtrack and call them "jokes" when people express how hypocritical you come across
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:03 PM ET
im sorry but really? youre going to bemoan how Poile acted in all of this?
- stayinthefnnet

Or be sorry the Flyers didn't get Nash with that contract?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 5:04 PM ET
There were days of discussion on the Weber deal. I don't know anyone who was right about everything. I thought in the beginning they were going to match. But in the last few days I truly thought the Flyers were getting Weber. And I thought a trade was definitely going to be made. I was wrong about that. Along with everyone else.
- MJL


I'll step up and eat the "crow" b/c I had it 80/20 for the Flyers. I said to call their bluff and the Flyers did it and Weber isnt here. Life moves on and the Flyers need to continue to get better. Takes a TEAM to win a cup.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:04 PM ET
When does the decades of not winning a Cup get old "bro"? 2050, 2055, 2060?
- PLindbergh31


Well there is always the option of being a Kings fan!
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 24 @ 5:04 PM ET
If poile asked for the schenns and 2 firsts and Homer said no, I cant be mad at that.....nice try, move on.
- aosplayo

Some suggested the Schenns, mesz and 2 1s which wouldve ruined this team.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:04 PM ET



- aightwebang17



there is not a situation that cannot be appropriately expressed by a Gif these days
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:04 PM ET
All jokes aside, this could have had a worse ending. Had Holmgren traded Schenn and Couturier in a package for Weber, it wouldn't have been good.

Disappointing day, not the end of the world.

I love how everyone takes jokes so seriously.

- PLindbergh31

When have you ever said anything remotely funnY?
eshake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.20.2009

Jul 24 @ 5:05 PM ET
Absolutely not but I feel that is the exact trade they are looking at. Please no
- Deasr1


you wouldn't trade a mid 6 forward, a 7th Dman, and a second round pick for Iginla AND Bouwmeester????

am i reading that correct?
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 24 @ 5:05 PM ET
Homer's balls have deflated a bit, but rest assured, they will be back and they will be bigger than ever. And if I were the rest of the league, I'd be afraid of turning around and seeing a big Homer ball coming right at me. It could happen at any time.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:05 PM ET
What makes you think they can't do that?
- MJL

I was just talking about this with my brother. I think the Rangers are twice the team the Flyers are as currently constructed ON PAPER. Doesn't necessarily mean anything. The Rangers D is scary, especially if they get Sauer back:

Timonen Mezzy Girardi McDonough
Coburn Grossman MDZ Staal
Gervais Schenn Sauer Stralman

Their goaltending is no contest and now their forward lines are every bit as talented

Hartnell G ??? (Jake) Nash Richards Gaborik
Simmonds Briere Schenn Kreider Stepan Callahan
Fedotenko Coots Read Hagelin Boyle Pyatt
Wellwood Talbot Rinaldo Asham Halpern Rupp

The offseason isn't over by any means, but right now.... in every facet on paper the Rangers are a much better hockey team.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Jul 24 @ 5:06 PM ET
Yea, the guy is going to sign a contract giving him $110M and he's going to get a 13M dollar check very soon. And you think he's frustrated? Seriously.

Make no mistake about it. Weber's primary goal was to get the deal he got.

- MJL


Like I said in my orginal post. The money is still green but that doesn't cure the ache in his stomach to be on a competitive team.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 24 @ 5:06 PM ET
When does the decades of not winning a Cup get old "bro"? 2050, 2055, 2060?
- PLindbergh31

hate to defend the flyers, but seriously people with this mindset piss me off. the flyers just havent won. sometimes it works out that way. its not as if the organization has just drained it dry. they have passionate ownership that has invested tons of money into the organization, sometimes even to a fault. the teams ploy to poach a player didnt work, so now all of a sudden every move they make is crap? this time last year they were literally robbing the kings and blue jackets of premium young talent. but now its just trendy to say oh what a bunch of failures in the front office, but im sure god forbid they won people of this opinion will be right there sharing in the glory....
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 24 @ 5:06 PM ET
What makes you think they can't do that?
- MJL

goalie is iffy and d must be addressed or we'll be a limited contender...
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:07 PM ET
hate to defend the flyers, but seriously people with this mindset piss me off. the flyers just havent won. sometimes it works out that way. its not as if the organization has just drained it dry. they have passionate ownership that has invested tons of money into the organization, sometimes even to a fault. the teams ploy to poach a player didnt work, so now all of a sudden every move they make is crap? this time last year they were literally robbing the kings and blue jackets of premium young talent. but now its just trendy to say oh what a bunch of failures in the front office, but im sure god forbid they won people of this opinion will be right there sharing in the glory....
- stayinthefnnet

thank you
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:07 PM ET
I was just talking about this with my brother. I think the Rangers are twice the team the Flyers are as currently constructed ON PAPER. Doesn't necessarily mean anything. The Rangers D is scary, especially if they get Sauer back:

Timonen Mezzy Girardi McDonough
Coburn Grossman MDZ Staal
Gervais Schenn Sauer Stralman

Their goaltending is no contest and now their forward lines are every bit as talented

Hartnell G ??? (Jake) Nash Richards Gaborik
Simmonds Briere Schenn Kreider Stepan Callahan
Fedotenko Coots Read Hagelin Boyle Pyatt
Wellwood Talbot Rinaldo Asham Halpern Rupp

The offseason isn't over by any means, but right now.... in every facet on paper the Rangers are a much better hockey team.

- Flyers1218


They still have to do one thing. And that's drop the puck!
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 5:07 PM ET
EJ HradekVerifiedā€¸@EJHradek_NHL

NTC/NMC could b added 2 Weber's deal. But, WHY!! would the Predators include it. They don't have 2. Teams only include that when they have 2.


Am I missing something here?
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 24 @ 5:07 PM ET
hate to defend the flyers, but seriously people with this mindset piss me off. the flyers just havent won. sometimes it works out that way. its not as if the organization has just drained it dry. they have passionate ownership that has invested tons of money into the organization, sometimes even to a fault. the teams ploy to poach a player didnt work, so now all of a sudden every move they make is crap? this time last year they were literally robbing the kings and blue jackets of premium young talent. but now its just trendy to say oh what a bunch of failures in the front office, but im sure god forbid they won people of this opinion will be right there sharing in the glory....
- stayinthefnnet

People see a shiny new toy and get distracted and must have it. We have some great young talent on this team that took it to some of the best players in the world on the Pens, and people are getting upset.

I would've been more upset if I had to watch Couturier or Schenn develop elsewhere. And if Weber didn't win us a cup, people would complain about him.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 24 @ 5:08 PM ET
hate to defend the flyers, but seriously people with this mindset piss me off. the flyers just havent won. sometimes it works out that way. its not as if the organization has just drained it dry. they have passionate ownership that has invested tons of money into the organization, sometimes even to a fault. the teams ploy to poach a player didnt work, so now all of a sudden every move they make is crap? this time last year they were literally robbing the kings and blue jackets of premium young talent. but now its just trendy to say oh what a bunch of failures in the front office, but im sure god forbid they won people of this opinion will be right there sharing in the glory....
- stayinthefnnet


Had this opinion been put forth by a Blues fan, or Caps fan it might have some merit. A Penguins fan, not so much.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 24 @ 5:09 PM ET
you wouldn't trade a mid 6 forward, a 7th Dman, and a second round pick for Iginla AND Bouwmeester????

am i reading that correct?

- eshake

Yes you are. What are their total cap hit? 13 mill. You wanna give up Jake for that? I don't.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 24 @ 5:10 PM ET
you wouldn't trade a mid 6 forward, a 7th Dman, and a second round pick for Iginla AND Bouwmeester????

am i reading that correct?

- eshake


You might be being sarcastic... Without the sarcasm emoticon I cant be sure, but that is exactly what I am thinking. The cap would be tight, but it could be managed...

Hartnell-Giroux-Iginla
Schenn-Briere-Voracek
Fedotenko-Couturier-Simmonds
Wellwood-Talbot-Rinaldo
Sestito

Timonen-Meszaros
Jaybo-Schenn
Grossmann-Coburn

Bryz
Leighton.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:10 PM ET
goalie is iffy and d must be addressed or we'll be a limited contender...
- isaiah520


Again, are we going to make assumptions before the Season starts? Last year it was certain players stink. Let's let the Goalie, who although he had overall a sub par year, did show how good he can be, play the games. And is a proven Goalie in the League. And the Flyers have a solid defense core. One of the better ones in the League. I don't know how many times one has to be burnt by premature predictions.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 24 @ 5:10 PM ET
I was just talking about this with my brother. I think the Rangers are twice the team the Flyers are as currently constructed ON PAPER. Doesn't necessarily mean anything. The Rangers D is scary, especially if they get Sauer back:

Timonen Mezzy Girardi McDonough
Coburn Grossman MDZ Staal
Gervais Schenn Sauer Stralman

Their goaltending is no contest and now their forward lines are every bit as talented

Hartnell G ??? (Jake) Nash Richards Gaborik
Simmonds Briere Schenn Kreider Stepan Callahan
Fedotenko Coots Read Hagelin Boyle Pyatt
Wellwood Talbot Rinaldo Asham Halpern Rupp

The offseason isn't over by any means, but right now.... in every facet on paper the Rangers are a much better hockey team.

- Flyers1218

wow
I like their goalie better but twice the team?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 5:10 PM ET
EJ HradekVerifiedā€¸@EJHradek_NHL

NTC/NMC could b added 2 Weber's deal. But, WHY!! would the Predators include it. They don't have 2. Teams only include that when they have 2.


Am I missing something here?

- stveshdy


He's right, they don't have to.
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