No question that is a far better package then the Rangers gave up.
- MJL

But a far better player the Flyers would be getting.

It will be nice to get resolution on this so we can move on to Doan and for others in fantasyland, Semin.

Oh yeah, and lets hope that the league starts on time so we can kick some butt early.

Well, the Flyers were apparenlty offering Nashville Read, not Jake.
- LordStanley88

Prior to the offersheet, the Flyers offered Read. It was turned down.

Well, the Flyers were apparenlty offering Nashville Read, not Jake.
- LordStanley88

Homer would up the offer if he believe they would match and I'm starting to believe they can't match the offer sheet bc it's just too much of a burden on the franchise.

I think it's similar, especially based on stats and developmental patterns. Anisimov and Voracek are similar producers through their careers, although Jake has a higher ceiling.

Meszaros and Dubinsky are both inconsistent guys that have shown flashes, and who have had good seasons, and the regressed. Erixon is a highly skilled kid that needs to mature, both physically and mentally.

The proposed Flyers package is slightly better, but it's not leaps and bounds better
- Jsaquella

I agree that its not leaps and bounds, but it is clearly a better package.

Meszy is a fine D-man who had a rough time in Tampa... as did guys like Carle and Dan Boyle. He is a season removed from being voted the teams best D-man. Voracek has a bit better offense as of now, and is a far superior two way man. The kicker is Erixon. IF he can develop he could turn out to be a very solid #3 d-man with second unit PP QB capabilities. Something has soured him on me though... He has put up similar numbers to Gusty, offensively in AHL, but is now on his 3rd NHL team already. IDK. Either way, Howson got hosed.. and I hope the same happens to Poile.

I believe the words of Dreger who simply said in his opinion after talking to rival GMs across the league that he does not believe Nashville can or will match...Mike Gillies is just trying to take some heat off of himself for not pursuing a hometown BC boy like Weber....Gillies also was quoted as saying there is a big market left for Luongo....and Dreger laughed and said "not buying it"

My observation, people with a financial perspective says Nashville must match. People with a sporting perspective say they won't match. A lot of people thought Vancouver was a destination point.

I still think Nashville wants to do the deal. I believe the cone of silence reflects that all sides have a pretty good idea exactly how this ends.
- spatso

Spatso what happens next year when they have 12 UFA/RFA to sign?

Spatso what happens next year when they have 12 UFA/RFA to sign?
- Philly1980

Mr. Wilson goes into his other sock to fund it.

I think Weber has no problem with staying in Nashville. Sure, he signed the sheet, but probably to get ownership off the dime. The worst that can happen, if they don't match is that he becomes a rich man in a great organization. If they do match then he becomes a rich man in a place where he is emotionally attached and ownership has shown him the love. I don't buy the disgrunted player scenario if he stays.

Mr. Wilson goes into his other sock to fund it.
- stveshdy

Regardless of whether they match Weber or not, Nashville still has to meet the Cap floor, and still has to put a team on the ice. So questioning how they re-sign their RFA's is flawed thinking. Either way it has to get done. The salary money is there. It's the large amount of up front money that is the issue.

I think Weber has no problem with staying in Nashville. Sure, he signed the sheet, but probably to get ownership off the dime. The worst that can happen, if they don't match is that he becomes a rich man in a great organization. If they do match then he becomes a rich man in a place where he is emotionally attached and ownership has shown him the love. I don't buy the disgrunted player scenario if he stays.
- 2731color

I agree totally.

Regardless of whether they match Weber or not, Nashville still has to meet the Cap floor, and still has to put a team on the ice. So questioning how they re-sign their RFA's is flawed thinking. Either way it has to get done. The salary money is there. It's the large amount of up front money that is the issue.
- MJL

They can reach the cap floor by signing other players. They could also trade some picks to reach the floor also. Keeping Weber (13M bonus) they still have to sign players to meet the cap floor. Do they have the money to fork over?

IMO, the Flyers put together a great design to the offer sheet and make it near impossible for the Preds to match this offer. They wouldn't risk offer sheeting Weber if they didnt think it would work in their favor in some way.

I think Weber has no problem with staying in Nashville. Sure, he signed the sheet, but probably to get ownership off the dime. The worst that can happen, if they don't match is that he becomes a rich man in a great organization. If they do match then he becomes a rich man in a place where he is emotionally attached and ownership has shown him the love. I don't buy the disgrunted player scenario if he stays.
- 2731color

He's getting paid either way. Someone has to flip the bill at this point.

Regardless of whether they match Weber or not, Nashville still has to meet the Cap floor, and still has to put a team on the ice. So questioning how they re-sign their RFA's is flawed thinking. Either way it has to get done. The salary money is there. It's the large amount of up front money that is the issue.
- MJL

The idea to match Weber "because they need to reach the cap floor" is flawed thinking.

Bill -

Why wld CLB trade Nash before Weber fate is decided? If Weber stays in NSH, PHI would likely increase Nash offers. No?
Thanks!

Great stuff, as usual.
- omaplata

Maybe Poile called Howson about Nash and offered up the Flyers picks. Howson realized the Flyers were out now and had to jump at the Rangers offer before it dropped. Wishful thinking on my part.

On a more important note, do the Flyers release Lilja so that Weber can have his #6 ?? BUNDY!!!

Weber stays in Nashville. Doan stays out west. Ryan a flyer by end of week.

They can reach the cap floor by signing other players. They could also trade some picks to reach the floor also. Keeping Weber (13M) they still have to sign players to meet the cap floor. Do they have the money to fork over?

IMO, the Flyers put together a great design to the offer sheet and make it near impossible for the Preds to match this offer. They wouldn't risk offer sheeting Weber if they didnt think it would work in their favor in some way.
- stveshdy

Yes, they do. When you sign most players, you don't need the money up front. You just need to meet payroll on the 15th and the 30th of every month during the Season. Look at the Rinne deal. 7M salary, but no up front money.
No question that matching puts them in a bind. As I've said many times before. They can absolutely match. The question is if they choose to and is it in their best interests. At this point, I believe they feel it is in their best interest to work out a deal.

On a more important note, do the Flyers release Lilja so that Weber can have his #6 ?? BUNDY!!!
- Hextall271

Lilja will just give him #6 or he will be Zetterberged into the boards by Weber

The idea to match Weber "because they need to reach the cap floor" is flawed thinking.
- jak521

But let's clarify what I said. I was talking about re-signing all their other player, not specifically Weber. As that's been brought up as an issue.

I think Weber has no problem with staying in Nashville. Sure, he signed the sheet, but probably to get ownership off the dime. The worst that can happen, if they don't match is that he becomes a rich man in a great organization. If they do match then he becomes a rich man in a place where he is emotionally attached and ownership has shown him the love. I don't buy the disgrunted player scenario if he stays.
- 2731color

Maybe, but doesn't he become a rich man in an organization that can no longer afford to surround him with talent?

On a more important note, do the Flyers release Lilja so that Weber can have his #6 ?? BUNDY!!!
- Hextall271

I think Weber will take the #21 and have his name legally changed to Shea Van Riemsdyk. SVR has a nice ring to it......

Lilja will just give him #6 or he will be Zetterberged into the boards by Weber
- phi1671

If this goes down.. i can't wait to see Weber Zetterberg Crosby..

Regardless of whether they match Weber or not, Nashville still has to meet the Cap floor, and still has to put a team on the ice. So questioning how they re-sign their RFA's is flawed thinking. Either way it has to get done. The salary money is there. It's the large amount of up front money that is the issue.
- MJL

next off season----

They have


Hornqvist, Patric »$3,083,333 RFA
Spaling, Nick »$1,050,000 RFA
Smith, Craig »EL $900,000 RFA
Yip, Brandon »$750,000 UFA
Halischuk, Matt »$712,500 RFA
Bourque, Gabriel »EL$618,333 RFA
McGrattan, Brian »$600,000UFA
MacLellan, Jack 600,000
Klein, Kevin »$1,350,000 UFA
Josi, Roman » EL $1,000,000 RFA
Fisher, Mike »$4,200,000 UFA
Mason, Chris » $1,500,000 UFA

Thats alot of holes to fill MJL.

I think Weber will take the #21 and have his name legally changed to Shea Van Riemsdyk. SVR has a nice ring to it......
- steelydan

Now we're talkin.. I was gonna suggest he can take #66 to piss off the Pens fans.

Yes, they do. When you sign most players, you don't need the money up front. You just need to meet payroll on the 15th and the 30th of every month during the Season. Look at the Rinne deal. 7M salary, but no up front money.
No question that matching puts them in a bind. As I've said many times before. They can absolutely match. The question is if they choose to and is it in their best interests. At this point, I believe they feel it is in their best interest to work out a deal.
- MJL

Doesn't that kind of say they can match but they can't? If its going to cause financial issues down the road or have an affect on icing a competitve team what sense does it make? Thats basically saying they don't have the money then or it would be done. This wouldnt be a concern if they had the money, IMO.