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flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 24 @ 2:04 PM ET
I'd like to get 2 of them back personally.. especially for the year we have the draft here.. So 2 firsts..Jake, Mesz Gus .. Cousins and a second (cause Homer hates them..)
- Hextall271


I'd do that....I'd do almost any trade where we can keep Schenn and Coots.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 2:04 PM ET
not like rangers play this raucous, offensive system, either. we'll see.

curious to see how rangers make up for the defense they've lost at forward, though. dubinsky and anisimov did a lot of heavy lifting for them.

- OrangeBlack27



Teams that play very good defensively, create a lot of offensive chances. They just lacked finishers. In my opinion the Rangers need to change their mix and add more offense. Tilted too much to one side.
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jul 24 @ 2:05 PM ET
... Homer is a live Bear.. he will literally rip your face off..
- Hextall271



MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 2:05 PM ET
I think Nashville is very happy with the Schenn Bros, they get a young center they desperately need and a top 4 physical young Dman to join their young promising defense plus 2 firsts.
- vejim



Sure they would be. But they aren't getting both if it was up to me.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 2:06 PM ET
Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com reports that the Phillies have indicated to teams that they are eager to move Hunter Pence. Rosenthal speculates that Pence could have more value now that Carlos Quentin and Edwin Encarnacion have signed extensions with their respective teams and are off the market. Pence, 29, is earning $10.4 million this season while batting .268/.336/.453 with 17 home runs, 57 RBI and a .789 OPS through 96 games. He's arbitration-eligible for the final time this winter.
Source: FOXSports.com

Back to Weber....
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 24 @ 2:06 PM ET
Couturier, Schenn, Schenn, Mez, and a 1st. Not sure Nashville would accept though.
- stveshdy


Does that get you 2 or 3 of the firsts back?
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jul 24 @ 2:07 PM ET
Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com reports that the Phillies have indicated to teams that they are eager to move Hunter Pence. Rosenthal speculates that Pence could have more value now that Carlos Quentin and Edwin Encarnacion have signed extensions with their respective teams and are off the market. Pence, 29, is earning $10.4 million this season while batting .268/.336/.453 with 17 home runs, 57 RBI and a .789 OPS through 96 games. He's arbitration-eligible for the final time this winter.
Source: FOXSports.com

Back to Weber....

- stveshdy


I was at the game last night, he was terrible, totally misplayed the ball in the 1st inning which led to 2 runs, and shows no plate discipline at all at the plate.

Back to Weber
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 24 @ 2:08 PM ET
Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com reports that the Phillies have indicated to teams that they are eager to move Hunter Pence. Rosenthal speculates that Pence could have more value now that Carlos Quentin and Edwin Encarnacion have signed extensions with their respective teams and are off the market. Pence, 29, is earning $10.4 million this season while batting .268/.336/.453 with 17 home runs, 57 RBI and a .789 OPS through 96 games. He's arbitration-eligible for the final time this winter.
Source: FOXSports.com

Back to Weber....

- stveshdy

Homer would have a hayday as the Phils GM
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 2:09 PM ET
I was at the game last night, he was terrible, totally misplayed the ball in the 1st inning which led to 2 runs, and shows no plate discipline at all at the plate.

Back to Weber

- Pat MaGroin



"Let's Eat"...
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jul 24 @ 2:11 PM ET
I was at the game last night, he was terrible, totally misplayed the ball in the 1st inning which led to 2 runs, and shows no plate discipline at all at the plate.

Back to Weber

- Pat MaGroin


He has horrible plate discipline.

The ball over his head? Don't think he could've caught that even if he played it right...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 2:12 PM ET
I was at the game last night, he was terrible, totally misplayed the ball in the 1st inning which led to 2 runs, and shows no plate discipline at all at the plate.

Back to Weber

- Pat MaGroin


Even if he had broke right on that ball, still would have been a very tough catch. And he had a good at bat in the 9th where he worked a walk that contributed. And he also leads the National League in go ahead RBI's. The problem is that he is not Ryan Howard. But he was asked to carry the team as the big bat without him. That's not Pence.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 24 @ 2:13 PM ET
He has horrible plate discipline.

The ball over his head? Don't think he could've caught that even if he played it right...

- steelydan

and everybody thinks Ed Wade is bad...that was a good trade for the Astros
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 24 @ 2:14 PM ET
Couturier, Schenn, Schenn, Mez, and a 1st. Not sure Nashville would accept though.
- stveshdy


I hope you're kidding......That's ridiculous over payment!!!
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 24 @ 2:15 PM ET
Teams that play very good defensively, create a lot of offensive chances. They just lacked finishers. In my opinion the Rangers need to change their mix and add more offense. Tilted too much to one side.
- MJL


rangers were 20th in the league last year with an average of 28.5 shots/game.

also, regarding forwards and their prime years:

http://www.arcticicehocke...-points-per-game-peak-age

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=8663
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jul 24 @ 2:16 PM ET
He has horrible plate discipline.

The ball over his head? Don't think he could've caught that even if he played it right...

- steelydan



Possibly, I never saw a replay of the hit, but did you see the route he took to the ball, he turned into a pretzel he twisted so much out there. I guess it gets me more PO cause this isn't his first hiccup out in the field, this has been a problem all year for him.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 24 @ 2:17 PM ET


Fang Finger ‏@Fang_Faction
Buckle up Smashville! RT @SunbeltHockey According to multiple reports, the NSH have decided to match the PHI offer sheet to Weber.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 24 @ 2:19 PM ET
Possibly, I never saw a replay of the hit, but did you see the route he took to the ball, he turned into a pretzel he twisted so much out there. I guess it gets me more PO cause this isn't his first hiccup out in the field, this has been a problem all year for him.
- Pat MaGroin

I think the Phils are finished with Cholly
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jul 24 @ 2:20 PM ET
and everybody thinks Ed Wade is bad...that was a good trade for the Astros
- vejim


It was a good trade for the Astros, below-average trade for the Phils. They put all their eggs in one basket and thought they would contend for the WS last year, hence the overpayment.

If we win the WS, it was one of those "great trades" that a GM puts in place right before a playoff run to put them over the hump. Since we didn't win, it gets put under a microscope and called into question.

Overall, I would do the trade again, because I don't expect to lose to the Cards in 5. That's life.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 24 @ 2:21 PM ET
I think the Phils are finished with Cholly
- vejim

ryne time please god may it b
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 2:21 PM ET
I hope you're kidding......That's ridiculous over payment!!!
- flyersfan51


I am. I would offer Nashville 4 1st rounders for Weber and thats it.
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jul 24 @ 2:22 PM ET
It was a good trade for the Astros, below-average trade for the Phils. They put all their eggs in one basket and thought they would contend for the WS last year, hence the overpayment.

If we win the WS, it was one of those "great trades" that a GM puts in place right before a playoff run to put them over the hump. Since we didn't win, it gets put under a microscope and called into question.

Overall, I would do the trade again, because I don't expect to lose to the Cards in 5. That's life.

- steelydan


This. And you don't expect Lee to blow a 4-0 lead in Game 2, for me that was the series. I think there was a stat out there that Lee hadn't blown a 4 run lead in 2+ years, but I could be wrong. Nevertheless he shouldn't have blown that game.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jul 24 @ 2:22 PM ET
That's a dam good job of photo shopping
- SoFla


Agreed. Love the "Trolling 101" link too.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Jul 24 @ 2:22 PM ET


Fang Finger ‏@Fang_Faction
Buckle up Smashville! RT @SunbeltHockey According to multiple reports, the NSH have decided to match the PHI offer sheet to Weber.

- Philly1980


Yep, because that twitter name and his follower count shows his credibility, which is likely none.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jul 24 @ 2:22 PM ET


Fang Finger ‏@Fang_Faction
Buckle up Smashville! RT @SunbeltHockey According to multiple reports, the NSH have decided to match the PHI offer sheet to Weber.

- Philly1980

They will be buckling up for the Financial bomb Weber puts on the small market franchise but its unreliable
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 2:22 PM ET


Fang Finger ‏@Fang_Faction
Buckle up Smashville! RT @SunbeltHockey According to multiple reports, the NSH have decided to match the PHI offer sheet to Weber.

- Philly1980


Bill Meltzer‏@billmeltzer

So an NHL exec told J Shannon Preds match. Another told D Dreger they won't. My take: neither one actually knows.
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