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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 24 @ 1:32 PM ET

- tangent_man

vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:32 PM ET
South Florida moved here for college haven't left yet
- SoFla

I am in Miami
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 1:33 PM ET
2m Anthony SanFilippo Anthony SanFilippo ‏@AnthonySan37

My interpretation is Nashville is leaking that it will match unless #Flyers meet trade demands hoping to make Holmgren squirm and give in.


Not TSN I know.....

- aosplayo


Hold ground Homer.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:33 PM ET
No. His job is to try and get the best player available and keep your direct compitetion from getting him... Mission accomplished. Sticking to the Preds is just gravy.
- RooNosHockey



Mission accomplished? Did I miss the announcement that the Flyers got Weber?
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 24 @ 1:33 PM ET
You obviously didn't get the context of my reply.
- MJL


I rarely do. I usually cant remember posts from 5 hours ago... Call it ADHD or my Dyslixia...
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 24 @ 1:33 PM ET
and here comes the bluff:

John Shannon ‏@JSportsnet
Just got told by 1 NHL Exec it looks like Preds will match Weber offer sheet. "Unless,Flyers are prepared to make a great trade"#doubtful

- Philly1980


But that's not coming from Nashville ; it's someone from another organization trying to put simultaneous heat on PHL ("you'd better trade at all costs or they'll match") and on NSH ("Everyone is expecting you to match despite any hardships it will create - you CAN match, can't you?) .

It's no more or less reliable than the execs who told Dreger they think there's no way Preds can or will match.

With the way hockey biz works, the one who talked to Shannon could very well actually feel Preds won't match and the Dreger ones could feel the opposite.

Take all of it with lots of grains of salt, in other words.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 1:34 PM ET
agreed -- but what D man will they get? they need someone right?
- flyersfan51


They can call around or wait and try during the season.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 24 @ 1:34 PM ET
.Why won't Nash perform up to his Cap now, or in the next 5-6 years? Nash is 28 and is in his prime. Don't see that changing in the next 5-6 years. And if Ryan continues to elevate, your looking at possibly a higher Cap hit in the future.
- MJL


i don't know the exact valuations off the top of my head, but he'd have to score close to 50 goals to be worth 7.8. i also don't think 28-33 is a scorer's prime. in fact, i think that's beyond the vast majority of scorer's primes. obviously there are outliers and perhaps nash will be one, but even though he didn't play on a great team ever, his numbers, to me, don't suggest that he'll be scoring 40 goals for the next six years. or maybe at all.
2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:34 PM ET
and who will ever forget the way the spectrum shook for game 6, I thought the roof was going to cave in again
- vejim

Sadly, it's too distant of a memory. Got me thinking about Sather... he always reminded me of Moe Howard. When he was a player he got caught with the palm cut of his glove cut out so that he could grab the stick directly.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:35 PM ET
Laughton, Bourdon and a first
- vejim


I think they'd be looking for a Center that can play right away. So with the Flyers involved. They would likely be asking for Schenn or Couturier.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 24 @ 1:35 PM ET
Isn't it great how many "insiderrrrrrs" and people with "friends high up in the flyers front office" there are whenever these trade/offer sheet scenarios pop up?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 24 @ 1:36 PM ET
those deep pockets better be deep!

The leader of the local ownership group said members have been forced to put $60 million of their own money into the operation over the past five years, largely to cover losses. The city has given the Predators $38.6 million in the same period.

And the city of Nashville has indicated it is willing to continue its public funding. Since 1997, Metro and the state have given the hockey team $107.8 million through a contract that has been renegotiated once with more generous incentives.






http://www.tennessean.com...-ice-success-public-money[
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 24 @ 1:36 PM ET
1 day 9 hrs 54 min
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 24 @ 1:36 PM ET
Mission accomplished? Did I miss the announcement that the Flyers got Weber?
- MJL


Might not get Weber, but NYR and Pitt are not getting him either. Didn't cost the Flyers anything but time to block a trade to an EC team, at worst. At best we get Weber... So EITHER way, mission accomplished.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:36 PM ET
Mission accomplished? Did I miss the announcement that the Flyers got Weber?
- MJL

this site will be like Dec 21st, 2012
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 24 @ 1:36 PM ET
But that's not coming from Nashville ; it's someone from another organization trying to put simultaneous heat on PHL ("you'd better trade at all costs or they'll match") and on NSH ("Everyone is expecting you to match despite any hardships it will create - you CAN match, can't you?) .

It's no more or less reliable than the execs who told Dreger they think there's no way Preds can or will match.

With the way hockey biz works, the one who talked to Shannon could very well actually feel Preds won't match and the Dreger ones could feel the opposite.

Take all of it with lots of grains of salt, in other words.

- bmeltzer




Also:

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:37 PM ET
I rarely do. I usually cant remember posts from 5 hours ago... Call it ADHD or my Dyslixia...
- RooNosHockey


Yea, the post made by the Rangers fan was made at 1:05 PM.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:37 PM ET
I would really like to know what the demands are. Is it one of Cooter schenn or both. If both no.. if one... talk even though I like B schenn.
- Hextall271



I think Holmgren and Poile both get A+ for the way they have played this so far. I notice some of the posters here are changing their position by the hour.

Relax, negotions will get serious tomorrow.

There will be a deal and both sides will be happy.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 24 @ 1:38 PM ET
Yea, the post made by the Rangers fan was made at 1:05 PM.

- MJL



T.Hanks
SoFla
Joined: 07.21.2012

Jul 24 @ 1:39 PM ET
I am in Miami
- vejim

I recently moved to Pembroke Pines from Coral Gables
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 24 @ 1:39 PM ET
Yea, the post made by the Rangers fan was made at 1:05 PM.

- MJL


Unfortunately it feels like its been much longer than that
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 24 @ 1:39 PM ET
I would really like to know what the demands are. Is it one of Cooter schenn or both. If both no.. if one... talk even though I like B schenn.
- Hextall271


so you're gonna break the Schenn brothers up before they even play a game? they are both gonna be so much better playing on the same team.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 1:39 PM ET
I think Holmgren and Poile both get A+ for the way they have played this so far. I notice some of the posters here are changing their position by the hour.

Relax, negotions will get serious tomorrow.

There will be a deal and both sides will be happy.

- spatso


Not that I disagree but I don't see Homer giving up more than what he offered already. The offer sheet was designed in a way that would make it financial hard for the Preds to match. He doesnt need to give in.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 24 @ 1:40 PM ET
But that's not coming from Nashville ; it's someone from another organization trying to put simultaneous heat on PHL ("you'd better trade at all costs or they'll match") and on NSH ("Everyone is expecting you to match despite any hardships it will create - you CAN match, can't you?) .

It's no more or less reliable than the execs who told Dreger they think there's no way Preds can or will match.

With the way hockey biz works, the one who talked to Shannon could very well actually feel Preds won't match and the Dreger ones could feel the opposite.

Take all of it with lots of grains of salt, in other words.

- bmeltzer


what's your guess?
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 24 @ 1:40 PM ET
what's your guess?
- flyersfan51


maybe read one of his several blogs over the last week? they're free. you can find them on hockeybuzz.com.
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