Even if Nashville matches, I'm still buying a Weber Flyers jersey. F' it

Nashville wants the Flyers to take the bait. They are desperate here b/c their franchise player is on the line. They either have to match and pretty much crush their franchise for years, let him go for 4 1st, or bluff and get the Flyers to offer more/better players.
- stveshdy

why can't they do this -

Poile: look, we both know 4 1sts isn't enough and we can't afford this monster contract, but have to match.
Homer: well, what if we agreed to trade a few players for a couple of our picks back.
Poile: Sounds good, we won't match and talk next week.
Homer: Great.
Poile: Hey Homer, It's me again, you stopped answering my calls ever since we declinded to match the OS, please gimme a call back.
Poile: Hey, it's me again, I was just taking a whiz, thought you might have called, okay later.

I agree with bill on this.

Bill Meltzer ‏@billmeltzer
@ff_marcello @JSportsnet my view is all team execs speak from self-interest. This one put heat on PHI and NSH simultaneously.
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- Philly1980

Maybe.. on the Nash thread, apparently Preds owner Brett wilson tweeted that the owners have deep pockets, covet the cup as much as anyone and for Weber not to pack his bags yet.

A big difference is going to be that there is no movement clause. And hence no limited number of teams that can be involved. So with there being one less scoring line forward available, and possibly more teams in the bidding. The price for Ryan went up.
- MJL

due to the circumstances surrounding, ryan's value should have been higher in the first place, imo. not sure whether yesterday's deal helped or hurt it, though. i just can't see teams parting with four assets like that for ryan even though he's arguably a better player, making 2.7 less per year. nash has this superstar reputation, ryan just doesn't, imo. at least not on nash's level (perception-wise), so i feel like someone doesn't pony up something similar.

ryan should have greater trade value than nash imho, but i can't imagine someone giving up more than what NYR did for nash.
- OrangeBlack27

you think NYR gave a lot????

ryan should have greater trade value than nash imho, but i can't imagine someone giving up more than what NYR did for nash.
- OrangeBlack27

Ryan anxiously awaits the offer sheet news at his ranch in Montana

Re-sign Vorachek. Call it a day. Was fun while it lasted.

why can't they do this -

Poile: look, we both know 4 1sts isn't enough and we can't afford this monster contract, but have to match.
Homer: well, what if we agreed to trade a few players for a couple of our picks back.
Poile: Sounds good, we won't match and talk next week.
Homer: Great.
Poile: Hey Homer, It's me again, you stopped answering my calls ever since we declinded to match the OS, please gimme a call back.
Poile: Hey, it's me again, I was just taking a whiz, thought you might have called, okay later.
- flyersfan51

The real question is if Poile calls Homer and says up your trade offer and we wont match, does Homer believe him? Is it likely Homer says okay what are you looking for? Or what we offered is the max I'm willing to go, take it or leave it?

You're not the brightest bulb in the box, are you?

Anyone with half a brain would have realized the moment Sather said "We kicked the hell out you twice in the Stanley Cup", he spoke truly.

Both the '85 Oilers and their '87 counterparts did, in fact, kick the the hell out of 'you' in the Finals.
- Anarion

.. and he was speaking at the event representing the Rangers as THEIR gm.

Also, I find it funny that he considers the 7 game war in 87 as "kicking the hell" out of the Flyers.

you think NYR gave a lot????
- flyersfan51

yes and no. they could afford to give up those assets due to their strong system, but not every team has nhl ready players waiting to step into top-9 forward and top-4 d roles.

Maybe.. on the Nash thread, apparently Preds owner Brett wilson tweeted that the owners have deep pockets, covet the cup as much as anyone and for Weber not to pack his bags yet.
- Hextall271

Awesome. Then why haven't they put it in? (frank) you Wilson. Prove it!!!

Re-sign Vorachek. Call it a day. Was fun while it lasted.
- Deasr1

there's no H in voracek, bro.

You're not the brightest bulb in the box, are you?

Anyone with half a brain would have realized the moment Sather said "We kicked the hell out you twice in the Stanley Cup", he spoke truly.

Both the '85 Oilers and their '87 counterparts did, in fact, kick the the hell out of 'you' in the Finals.
- Anarion

churns up past nightmares

The real question is if Poile calls Homer and says up your trade offer and we wont match, does Homer believe him? Is it likely Homer says okay what are you looking for? Or what we offered is the max I'm willing to go, take it or leave it?
- stveshdy

I don't think ANYONE knows......but tomorrow will go back and forth. I'm sure the flyers will up the offer a little bit, but no Schenn or Coots. would you do Voracek, Read, Mesz, MAB and 2 first rounders?

there's no H in voracek, bro.
- OrangeBlack27

and there's no I in team

I don't think ANYONE knows......but tomorrow will go back and forth. I'm sure the flyers will up the offer a little bit, but no Schenn or Coots. would you do Voracek, Read, Mesz, MAB and 2 first rounders?
- flyersfan51

Nope.

I went from 70-30 Flyers end up with Weber to 20-80.
- jak521

Because an NHL exec, who could easily be working for the Pens or Rangers, said it you're droping the percentages that much??

Awesome. Then why haven't they put it in? (frank) you Wilson. Prove it!!!
- stveshdy

So you know.. I don't have the link. It was a screen shot posted on the Preds blog.

Maybe.. on the Nash thread, apparently Preds owner Brett wilson tweeted that the owners have deep pockets, covet the cup as much as anyone and for Weber not to pack his bags yet.
- Hextall271

Link?

I think they meant Wilson has said this in the past...

You're not the brightest bulb in the box, are you?

Anyone with half a brain would have realized the moment Sather said "We kicked the hell out you twice in the Stanley Cup", he spoke truly.

Both the '85 Oilers and their '87 counterparts did, in fact, kick the the hell out of 'you' in the Finals.
- Anarion

At least I am not the only one getting banned today.

Maybe.. on the Nash thread, apparently Preds owner Brett wilson tweeted that the owners have deep pockets, covet the cup as much as anyone and for Weber not to pack his bags yet.
- Hextall271

If he did, it mustve been from the beginning bc i havent seen anything from the past 3 days

So you know.. I don't have the link. It was a screen shot posted on the Preds blog.
- Hextall271

This Wilson guy might have money but if this was an easy decision this would of been done already b/c its their franchise player on the line. I don't believe a word that comes out of Nashville right now.

If he did, it mustve been from the beginning bc i havent seen anything from the past 3 days
- aosplayo

Correct. Whatever was just said is a complete and utter falsehood.

churns up past nightmares
- vejim

'85 sure. '87 went 7 games.

I don't think ANYONE knows......but tomorrow will go back and forth. I'm sure the flyers will up the offer a little bit, but no Schenn or Coots. would you do Voracek, Read, Mesz, MAB and 2 first rounders?
- flyersfan51

too much for me

I love Weber but not for that package at this point