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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 24 @ 12:56 PM ET
I went from 70-30 Flyers end up with Weber to 20-80.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 12:56 PM ET
Ryan will costs you a defensmen and we still need a defensmen so if they don't get Weber, they probably cant' get Ryan.

trade Jake, Mesz, 2 second rounders for Ryan
sign Doan 3/16

could you believe those lines?

Hartnell - Giroux - Ryan
Doan - Schenn - Briere
Read - Coots - Simmonds
Fedotenko - Talbot - Sestito

- flyersfan51


Word is that Anaheim wants a 2nd line Center in return. That means Schenn or Couturier
2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Jul 24 @ 12:58 PM ET
I'm confused, I thought that Nashville would have wanted a "Columbus style deal".
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 24 @ 12:58 PM ET
I went from 70-30 Flyers end up with Weber to 20-80.
- jak521






this sounds about right
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 12:58 PM ET
I went from 70-30 Flyers end up with Weber to 20-80.
- jak521


Don't. Until I see Dreger or McKenzie tweet it that "rumor" means absolutely nothing. TSN guys get all the dirt and are on point. They wont make a tweet or announce anything without 100% confirmation.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 24 @ 12:59 PM ET
I went from 70-30 Flyers end up with Weber to 20-80.
- jak521


how did you end up with that conclusion? With everything I'm reading, I think we lose out on Weber, over pay to get Ryan and sign Jake. and our d will be a weakness once again next year.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 24 @ 12:59 PM ET
Don't. Until I see Dreger or McKenzie tweet it that "rumor" means absolutely nothing. TSN guys get all the dirt and are on point. They wont make a tweet or announce anything without 100% confirmation.
- stveshdy

I hate poker. (frank)ing hate it!
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 24 @ 12:59 PM ET
Word is that Anaheim wants a 2nd line Center in return. That means Schenn or Couturier
- MJL


ryan should have greater trade value than nash imho, but i can't imagine someone giving up more than what NYR did for nash.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 24 @ 1:00 PM ET
Ryan will costs you a defensmen and we still need a defensmen so if they don't get Weber, they probably cant' get Ryan.

trade Jake, Mesz, 2 second rounders for Ryan
sign Doan 3/16

could you believe those lines?

Hartnell - Giroux - Ryan
Doan - Schenn - Briere
Read - Coots - Simmonds
Fedotenko - Talbot - Sestito

- flyersfan51


And then Flyers get Jaybo for nothing... like it or not....
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:00 PM ET
Holmer's chips are in as far as I'm concerned. It's all in nashvilles corner
- Just5

your quite chipper today
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 24 @ 1:00 PM ET
Word is that Anaheim wants a 2nd line Center in return. That means Schenn or Couturier
- MJL


I don't think I'd do that.

Maybe just sign Arnott to help out the fourth line? anybody like to have Arnott for cheap?
bird_dog
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PEI
Joined: 09.30.2011

Jul 24 @ 1:01 PM ET
I love when people say sign Doan or just sign Doan. The ONLY thing the flyers can do is offer him a deal. Doan accepts it or not.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 1:01 PM ET
I hate poker. (frank)ing hate it!
- jak521


Nashville wants the Flyers to take the bait. They are desperate here b/c their franchise player is on the line. They either have to match and pretty much crush their franchise for years, let him go for 4 1st, or bluff and get the Flyers to offer more/better players.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 24 @ 1:01 PM ET
And then Flyers get Jaybo for nothing... like it or not....
- RooNosHockey


I do not want J-Bo.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 24 @ 1:01 PM ET
I hate poker. (frank)ing hate it!
- jak521


You must not be very good at it...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:01 PM ET
ryan should have greater trade value than nash imho, but i can't imagine someone giving up more than what NYR did for nash.
- OrangeBlack27


A big difference is going to be that there is no movement clause. And hence no limited number of teams that can be involved. So with there being one less scoring line forward available, and possibly more teams in the bidding. The price for Ryan went up.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:02 PM ET
I don't think I'd do that.

Maybe just sign Arnott to help out the fourth line? anybody like to have Arnott for cheap?

- flyersfan51


I definitely wouldn't do it.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 24 @ 1:02 PM ET
Nashville wants the Flyers to take the bait. They are desperate here b/c their franchise player is on the line. They either have to match and pretty much crush their franchise for years, let him go for 4 1st, or bluff and get the Flyers to offer more/better players.
- stveshdy





youre optimism is contagious. Im in.....


edit : your ---- im too nervous
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:03 PM ET
I do not want J-Bo.
- flyersfan51

I think JBow and Luongo may reunite in florida
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:03 PM ET
I love when people say sign Doan or just sign Doan. The ONLY thing the flyers can do is offer him a deal. Doan accepts it or not.
- bird_dog


Yes, and it's going to cost a lot more then the $4.75-$5.5M numbers I'm seeing sugggested.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:04 PM ET
how did you end up with that conclusion? With everything I'm reading, I think we lose out on Weber, over pay to get Ryan and sign Jake. and our d will be a weakness once again next year.
- flyersfan51

eshake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.20.2009

Jul 24 @ 1:04 PM ET
I don't think I'd do that.

Maybe just sign Arnott to help out the fourth line? anybody like to have Arnott for cheap?

- flyersfan51


if the Flyers sign Arnott, he's not playing the 4th line
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:05 PM ET
The price for Ryan is too high.
I also thing Voracek is a better fit here than Ryan, with a cheaper hit - even with a raise.

No way Weber comes to Philadelphia.
Anarion
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jul 24 @ 1:05 PM ET
Remember at the Winter Classic announcement he said "WE beat the Flyers on the way to 2 of our cups?" Totally forgot he was the Rangers GM.
- RooNosHockey


You're not the brightest bulb in the box, are you?

Anyone with half a brain would have realized the moment Sather said "We kicked the hell out you twice in the Stanley Cup", he spoke truly.

Both the '85 Oilers and their '87 counterparts did, in fact, kick the the hell out of 'you' in the Finals.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 24 @ 1:05 PM ET
So the flyers were in Nash they wanted Nash and weber??
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