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phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jul 24 @ 12:32 PM ET
I agree Skip and I don't think Homer is worried on second during this time.
- stveshdy



Homer is actually out riding his bike.....
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Jul 24 @ 12:32 PM ET
I think Homer needs to start looking into different trades because Weber is not coming. They are wasting time. The longer this goes on, the better our rivals get. Re-sign Vorachek and let's move on to camp
- Deasr1


Why would he look into different trades? The worst thing that happens is Nashville matches the offer and Weber is there for at least one more year.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 12:33 PM ET
I think Homer needs to start looking into different trades because Weber is not coming. They are wasting time. The longer this goes on, the better our rivals get. Re-sign Vorachek and let's move on to camp
- Deasr1


Since the offer sheet they missed on Nash, who they might not have wanted. No need to panic, keep waiting patiently, answers right around the corner.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 24 @ 12:33 PM ET
Why would he wear a Flyers jersey when he along with his brother, Cooter, Laughton, Meszaros, Coburn and 4 1sts are headed to Nash..
- Hextall271

you left out Giroux
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 24 @ 12:35 PM ET
Why would he look into different trades? The worst thing that happens is Nashville matches the offer and Weber is there for at least one more year.
- KGBflyers10

If stays Nashville won't go through all this malarky just to trade him next year. Where he goes he will stay for remainder of contract
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 24 @ 12:35 PM ET
Eh.. The ball is in Nashville's court. Philly just sits back and waits, knowing how long said wait would probably be while Poile, the owners, and their kids are all counting the money they've made during their candy sales fundraiser over the last 6 days.
- Flyskippy

it is Nashville, they have Crispy Creme fundraisers
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 24 @ 12:36 PM ET
I also find the denial of contact on the unbelievable side.
- bodiva88


I figure Mr. Holmgren's calling Mr. Poile every hour asking, "Are we there yet?" but this induction is baseless.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 24 @ 12:37 PM ET
I think we are looking to deeply into this. Weber signed an OS with the Flyers. As of today he is 100% a Flyer. As an RFA the Preds. have the option to match by Wednesday at 11:30pm. Its that simple.

As an organization you didn't meet for the first time 36 hours till deadline to decide what to to do. The decision has been made months if not years ago. Nashville simple dosen't have cash on hand to through around.

If I were to guess, with The partnership that Polie and Homer have had this was a deal designed by both to allow all three parties to get what they need while saving face.

Flyers get a bona fide #1 Dman
Weber gets on a bona fide team able to pay to win
Preds get to place blame on Powerhouse team and walk away with picks.

If anyone thinks the Nashville owners and Polie were stuned and needed 5 days to clear there heads that there number 1 dman was given an offer sheet are kidding themselves. They tried for two years to lock him and others up but are not in a position to do so. This meeting today is about saving face- only! IMO

- Keep Your Head Up


I think it's a mistake to think that this was a pre meditated deal to get what they need, between the two sides. The Flyers sending an Offer sheet was a direct response to not getting a deal worked out. And it was predatory in nature.
And NAshville absolutely need to meet and look at all the projections to decide how they wanted to proceed.

And until the Preds decide to not match, or make a deal with the FLyers. Weber is 0% a Flyers.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 24 @ 12:37 PM ET
I agree Skip and I don't think Homer is worried on second during this time.
- stveshdy

Precisely. Mr. Holmgren accomplished what he intended: Shea Weber will either be a Flyer or Predator next season, assuring that he will not be anywhere else in the East. In a year, they can talk trade again if NSH matches.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 24 @ 12:38 PM ET
I think it's a mistake to think that this was a pre meditated deal to get what they need, between the two sides. The Flyers sending an Offer sheet was a direct response to not getting a deal worked out. And it was predatory in nature.
And NAshville absolutely need to meet and look at all the projections to decide how they wanted to proceed.

And until the Preds decide to not match, or make a deal with the FLyers. Weber is 0% a Flyers.

- MJL

Ironic. The Predators became the prey.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 24 @ 12:38 PM ET
I figure Mr. Holmgren's calling Mr. Poile every hour asking, "Are we there yet?" but this induction is baseless.
- Flyskippy


Dont need to source opinions!
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 24 @ 12:39 PM ET
I think it's a mistake to think that this was a pre meditated deal to get what they need, between the two sides. The Flyers sending an Offer sheet was a direct response to not getting a deal worked out. And it was predatory in nature.
And NAshville absolutely need to meet and look at all the projections to decide how they wanted to proceed.

And until the Preds decide to not match, or make a deal with the FLyers. Weber is 0% a Flyers.

- MJL

Fashionably Leight.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jul 24 @ 12:42 PM ET
Rachel Maddow just last week did a whole thing on champing at the bit. Another commonly misused phrase - Flush out versus flesh out.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 24 @ 12:43 PM ET
I think it's a mistake to think that this was a pre meditated deal to get what they need, between the two sides. The Flyers sending an Offer sheet was a direct response to not getting a deal worked out. And it was predatory in nature.
And NAshville absolutely need to meet and look at all the projections to decide how they wanted to proceed.

And until the Preds decide to not match, or make a deal with the FLyers. Weber is 0% a Flyers.

- MJL

Only thing we know for certain is Mr Weber is getting paid, no matter where he ends up.

He should take the Flyers out to dinner or something if Nashville matches.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jul 24 @ 12:43 PM ET
bored. I'm going to try this on NHL 12.

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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 12:43 PM ET
Precisely. Mr. Holmgren accomplished what he intended: Shea Weber will either be a Flyer or Predator next season, assuring that he will not be anywhere else in the East. In a year, they can talk trade again if NSH matches.
- Flyskippy


Agreed. That's why I been on record saying let them match. You can't be afraid of losing Weber. Homer has done a really nice job keeping him away from other teams. It's basically come to Philly or stay in Nashville.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 24 @ 12:44 PM ET
Fashionably Leight.
- RooNosHockey


Someones Flip flopin like a fish out of water.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 24 @ 12:44 PM ET
and here comes the bluff:

John Shannon ‏@JSportsnet
Just got told by 1 NHL Exec it looks like Preds will match Weber offer sheet. "Unless,Flyers are prepared to make a great trade"#doubtful
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 24 @ 12:45 PM ET
and here comes the bluff:

John Shannon ‏@JSportsnet
Just got told by 1 NHL Exec it looks like Preds will match Weber offer sheet. "Unless,Flyers are prepared to make a great trade"#doubtful

- Philly1980


I can live with this. Good luck Nashville.
Cloverfield
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newport Beach, CA
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jul 24 @ 12:46 PM ET
C'mon, let's go deadline, you're taking forever.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 24 @ 12:46 PM ET
I can live with this. Good luck Nashville.
- stveshdy

80/20?
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 24 @ 12:46 PM ET
Rachel Maddow just last week did a whole thing on champing at the bit. Another commonly misused phrase - Flush out versus flesh out.
- Pixote Andolini


I always thought it was Fresh out....
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 24 @ 12:47 PM ET
I can live with this. Good luck Nashville.
- stveshdy


yup me to. No need to gut the team....it might be a bluff.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 24 @ 12:47 PM ET
I can live with this. Good luck Nashville.
- stveshdy


yup me to. No need to gut the team....it might be a bluff.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jul 24 @ 12:47 PM ET

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