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If NASH really wants to keep Weber, the money will not be an issue. The Ownership group I am sure is convening to discuss the options and ramifications of this "investment" into the franchise. A Capital Call to inject the necessary monies needed to retain Weber is an option for the Group. If one balks at this request, one of the wealthier Owners agrees to step to the plate for a greater % of the Team.
Is this the best scenario going forward with the business model? Are the revenues there to recoup an investment built around Weber? Other financial considerations with their future RFA's must also be factored in.
IMO, unless the 5% Owner Wilson steps up to absorb the losses over the next 6 years, a trade is NASH best route. Homer obviously knows what package he was prepared to offer in advance of the OS. So a reduced package to allow NASH their exit would be the best result for everyone and how I see it playing out. - 9thPassyunk
But the thing you have to consider under that scenario is that the other partners would have agree to have their ownership percentage reduced by the extra amounts that Wilson is funding. Or their partnership agreement will have to give Wilson greater rights to profits. Depending on what their agreement says, the minority owners may have agree to any such modifications. |
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I think it's in the Flyers best interests to make a deal and get Weber. It's also would be a good thing for Nashville, and the League. Just don't trade B. Schenn or Couturier. - MJL
I don't care about Nashville. I'm not a Preds fan. I have seen "small market" teams win Cups, while the Flyers drought is nearly 40 years. |
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at this point, it's more than that. outside the prism of PHL vs NSH, I see this situation as a league wide concern because of the question of viability of the predator franchise. if NSH can save face enuf with a deal that they can spin into excitement to fill enuf seats, that would be the best outcome from the bettman perspective. - isaiah520
I understand what you are saying. I'm viewing this strictly as a Flyers fan. I'm not concerned about Nashville. |
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eayost
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Location: Into the Void, PA Joined: 04.14.2010
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If Weber falls through maybe the Flyers go for Yashin lol |
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aosplayo
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Location: Downingtown, PA Joined: 01.14.2008
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In fantasy world. If we are fortunate to land Weber, and somehow Doan, along with Luke Schenn, thats an increase of 652 hits......minus Jagr, JVR, etc.........
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hereticpride
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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Holmgren and Poile tried to hammer out a deal, Nashville was asking for the moon and the stars, Holmgren probably told Poile when they couldn't agree on a trade, to check his fax machine.
I will be annoyed if the Flyers give up a big package for Weber at this point, to me it's either Nashville takes the four first round picks, or they match the offer sheet. - PLindbergh31
Agreed. Nearly everyone here is severely under rating the worth of the 4 first rounders. To a team that seems to never want to spend money that's gold. They can still sell the team to fans. Sign Semin, draft well and make a good trade here and there when you can. They have a great goalie locked up and talent emerging on the blue line. You don't need a home run at this point in Nashville's game. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I did.
with spending 9.25M on jake and doan and 7.9M on weber capgeek gives me 650K of free space with Pronger on LTIR. Prongers salary-650K leaves them with a little over 4m, which is mezs salary.
Now, there is the part that I don't understand. is that balance (4M) for acquiring someone new after the stat of the season, or can it be applied to mezs?
On the other hand, drop doan and keep mez and resign jake, cut shelley and you have 1.6m of actual space. no LTIR needed. still lie that team a lot. - nails
What are you signing Voracek for?
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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I think it's in the Flyers best interests to make a deal and get Weber. It's also would be a good thing for Nashville, and the League. Just don't trade B. Schenn or Couturier. - MJL
they really can't trade Voracek as a RFA? would that make sense for the Preds?
would think they would look at players signed for a year or more in there best interest |
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nails
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Location: thread killer, PA Joined: 02.05.2007
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If Weber falls through maybe the Flyers go for Yashin lol - eayost
and Hasek.
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I don't care about Nashville. I'm not a Preds fan. I have seen "small market" teams win Cups, while the Flyers drought is nearly 40 years. - PLindbergh31
Do you care about a lockout, and not having Hockey? If you do, then you should care about Nashville. There's a big picture here.
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The 4 firsts are already a sizable package. So if you exchanged 2 of the firsts with Voracek and Meszaros, you'd be upset that they got Weber? You may then have the cap space to sign Doan too. He's apparently interested in what's cooking here all of a sudden - eayost
I would prefer surrendering the four first rounders than parting with key roster guys. If they can add Weber, without subtracting from the team they have in place, they are closer to reaching the goal. Since all first rounders the Flyers will be trading project to be at the end of the first round, I'm ok with it |
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nails
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: thread killer, PA Joined: 02.05.2007
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What are you signing Voracek for? - MJL
4.25 for a longer term.
I think he might take a little less on a short one, maybe not though. |
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eayost
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Into the Void, PA Joined: 04.14.2010
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and Hasek. - nails
Too Leight :/ |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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they really can't trade Voracek as a RFA? would that make sense for the Preds?
would think they would look at players signed for a year or more in there best interest - puckhead17
Voracek makes a lot of sense for the Preds. He'd immediately step into their top six, they can sign him to a deal that would help them get to floor and he's a good young player. |
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nails
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: thread killer, PA Joined: 02.05.2007
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I would prefer surrendering the four first rounders than parting with key roster guys. If they can add Weber, without subtracting from the team they have in place, they are closer to reaching the goal. Since all first rounders the Flyers will be trading project to be at the end of the first round, I'm ok with it - PLindbergh31
How would you feel if this was the deal:
Mez and 2 first for weber
Jake and a first for Doan |
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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4.25 for a longer term.
I think he might take a little less on a short one, maybe not though. - nails
Oshie & Perron set the market for him
don't think they are asking too much if you look at similar players |
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Do you care about a lockout, and not having Hockey? If you do, then you should care about Nashville. There's a big picture here. - MJL
Did Holmgren do anything against the rules of the current CBA that is in place? I don't think he did. He tried to make a deal for Weber, he found the asking price to be too high. Nashville has totally botched the way they have handled Suter and Weber. They have no one to blame but themselves. |
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nails
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: thread killer, PA Joined: 02.05.2007
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Too Leight :/ - eayost
can never have too many old and/or washed up back up goalies |
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Do you care about a lockout, and not having Hockey? If you do, then you should care about Nashville. There's a big picture here. - MJL
Pfff that's like saying if I care for people on welfare. No I don't because it's teams like Nashville that are a leech on our NHL....I'm tired of great teams supporting Bettmans bastards... This new cba will reward the losers of the league |
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stveshdy
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The 4 firsts are already a sizable package. So if you exchanged 2 of the firsts with Voracek and Meszaros, you'd be upset that they got Weber? You may then have the cap space to sign Doan too. He's apparently interested in what's cooking here all of a sudden - eayost
Voracek, MAB, Cousins or Laughton, 2 1st. Even then I still don't feel it's necessary to do. Homer obviously has more of an idea if the Preds can match the offer sheet. |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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How would you feel if this was the deal:
Mez and 2 first for weber
Jake and a first for Doan - nails
Doan is a UFA, no need to trade any assets for him |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Agreed. Nearly everyone here is severely under rating the worth of the 4 first rounders. To a team that seems to never want to spend money that's gold. They can still sell the team to fans. Sign Semin, draft well and make a good trade here and there when you can. They have a great goalie locked up and talent emerging on the blue line. You don't need a home run at this point in Nashville's game. - hereticpride
First round picks doesn't sell a team to the fans. Wins and making the playoffs does. Losing Suter and Weber could mean that Nashville is no longer a playoff team. Which could result in a dwindling fan base. |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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How would you feel if this was the deal:
Mez and 2 first for weber
Jake and a first for Doan - nails
Why are you giving anything up for Doan. He's a UFA.
And no to Mezzy or any of the top 4 cause you'll just be looking to replace them in a year when Kimmo is done. |
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How would you feel if this was the deal:
Mez and 2 first for weber
Jake and a first for Doan - nails
I would be fine with Mez and 2 firsts for Weber, but now that an offer sheet has been extended, I prefer just to sit back and have Nashville try and match. |
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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Voracek makes a lot of sense for the Preds. He'd immediately step into their top six, they can sign him to a deal that would help them get to floor and he's a good young player. - Jsaquella
From the Preds standpoint or ours?
from there point of view they would request Coburn before anyone
I would offer Simmonds before Voracek, I think he has more upside & we need a scoring winger, but again, they need D men worse than anything
They have I think 2 signed & one is "pylon" Hall Gill |
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