John Toperzer: What's old is new: Pens have been thru big contracts before Mario Lemieux signed a 7-year, $42 million in 1992, nearly doubling the NHL's next highest contract

John Toperzer: What's old is new: Pens have been thru big contracts before
Mario Lemieux signed a 7-year, $42 million in 1992, nearly doubling the NHL's next highest contract
- the-mitch-wilsons

Do you guys have the cap space to sign Parise? Sorry I never read the blog.

Do you guys have the cap space to sign Parise? Sorry I never read the blog.
- KABLOOEY

Yes. Doesn't mean it will happen. New Jersey, Minnesota, Detroit, etc. all can make offers that would be enticing to him. They will talk to him for sure, but does not mean they will sign him or that he does want to be here.

Do you guys have the cap space to sign Parise? Sorry I never read the blog.
- KABLOOEY

Yes, as long as he takes and AAV of $7.5-8M. The Pens have about $14.5M of cap space, and need to sign 5 players to get to the roster max of 23.

There is even talk of them going after Parise and Suter. For that to happen they would need to move Paul Martin's AAV of $5M and Suter would need to be in the $6.5M AAV range at most.

Yes, as long as he takes and AAV of $7.5-8M. The Pens have about $14.5M of cap space, and need to sign 5 players to get to the roster max of 23.

There is even talk of them going after Parise and Suter. For that to happen they would need to move Paul Martin's AAV of $5M and Suter would need to be in the $6.5M AAV range at most.
- PENS FAN in CANADA

Could we make both work if we just moved a 2 million dollar salary like, say, TK?

Yes. Doesn't mean it will happen. New Jersey, Minnesota, Detroit, etc. all can make offers that would be enticing to him. They will talk to him for sure, but does not mean they will sign him or that he does want to be here.
- HopintheCordoba

I think he would jump at an opportunity to play there. My god can you imagine?

Yes, as long as he takes and AAV of $7.5-8M. The Pens have about $14.5M of cap space, and need to sign 5 players to get to the roster max of 23.

There is even talk of them going after Parise and Suter. For that to happen they would need to move Paul Martin's AAV of $5M and Suter would need to be in the $6.5M AAV range at most.
- PENS FAN in CANADA

Sweet Jesus!!! Can you say dynasty. Wow!

I think he would jump at an opportunity to play there. My god can you imagine?
- KABLOOEY

Iggy would be a great back up plan....short term of course. What would it take to get him? Though, doesn't look like they're planning on a rebuild just yet.

I think he would jump at an opportunity to play there. My god can you imagine?
- KABLOOEY

put crosby parise and dupuis out there to start...

then put out the line with the 40 goal scorer in neal and that 50 goal scoring mvp evgeni malkin.

has anyone actually heard that the pens were looking at carle? i thought i saw something on twitter. praying that one of you guys can yell at me for even suggesting something so moronic

put crosby parise and dupuis out there to start...

then put out the line with the 40 goal scorer in neal and that 50 goal scoring mvp evgeni malkin.


- SuperHenderson13

That would be a great line

has anyone actually heard that the pens were looking at carle? i thought i saw something on twitter. praying that one of you guys can yell at me for even suggesting something so moronic
- stayinthefnnet

i havent seen anything... i honestly havent seen anything besides parise. looks like Ray is playing his cards close to the chest.

cant say i blame him.

put crosby parise and dupuis out there to start...

then put out the line with the 40 goal scorer in neal and that 50 goal scoring mvp evgeni malkin.


- SuperHenderson13

Small first line, give tangradi a chance on first line. Let him screen the goalies and use his size...dupes would be better with cook and sutter on 3rd line

Small first line, give tangradi a chance on first line. Let him screen the goalies and use his size...dupes would be better with cook and sutter on 3rd line
- nh4442

a line of dupuis parise and sid would win literally every loose puck though. yeah dupers hands probably cost him a goal a game but i always liked him with sid (not saying i wouldnt love an upgrade though) because he had the speed to keep up with him

has anyone actually heard that the pens were looking at carle? i thought i saw something on twitter. praying that one of you guys can yell at me for even suggesting something so moronic
- stayinthefnnet

Prior to the Wideman signing, I think I mentioned on this board that Carle might be decent back-up plan if no Sutter or Allen, but word is that Carle's deal is going to top Wideman's. Panaccio is predicting something around the $6M/yr range.

Anyone on the Pens blog think Carle for 5yrs @ $5.75M/yr is a good idea?

Me neither.

i havent seen anything... i honestly havent seen anything besides parise. looks like Ray is playing his cards close to the chest.

cant say i blame him.
- SuperHenderson13

yeah true. not exaggerating, but signing carle would be a move so dumb that if shero actually were to do it i think it would really tarnish his star in my eyes

Small first line, give tangradi a chance on first line. Let him screen the goalies and use his size...dupes would be better with cook and sutter on 3rd line
- nh4442

With Parise & Crosby, that line needs to all speed all the time. Dupuis is a good fit for that.

I think he would jump at an opportunity to play there. My god can you imagine?
- KABLOOEY

I couldn't say. He stands to make more money in Minnesota, and he stands to make a bit more in Detroit with the same chance of being competitive and here in Pittsburgh he can make money but Shero won't break the bank. Parise will choose and we will find out. I'd love to have him, but I don't want to see this team handcuffed like they were with both Martin/Michalek's contracts. I doubt they move Martin unless they are confident in their own D man or in a trade. Just my 2 cents

yeah true. not exaggerating, but signing carle would be a move so dumb that if shero actually were to do it i think it would really tarnish his star in my eyes
- stayinthefnnet

Carle is going to go somewhere with a more glaring need and get PAID...or he will get Philly to up their bid BIG TIME. Either way he knows its time to take advantage of the market for good to great defensemen. Teams are still overpaying for it and agents know it-----> i.e. Schultz

Prior to the Wideman signing, I think I mentioned on this board that Carle might be decent back-up plan if no Sutter or Allen, but word is that Carle's deal is going to top Wideman's. Panaccio is predicting something around the $6M/yr range.

Anyone on the Pens blog think Carle for 5yrs @ $5.75M/yr is a good idea?

Me neither.
- s0rcerer1984

I'm with you HELL NO! Thats K-son money and he's not even worth that. Letang will garner that or more and he's quality 2 ways

Prior to the Wideman signing, I think I mentioned on this board that Carle might be decent back-up plan if no Sutter or Allen, but word is that Carle's deal is going to top Wideman's. Panaccio is predicting something around the $6M/yr range.

Anyone on the Pens blog think Carle for 5yrs @ $5.75M/yr is a good idea?

Me neither.
- s0rcerer1984

that is ridiculous! not saying you were wrong for suggesting him, as he is one of the higher profile guys out there right now. living in philly i watch a lot of flyers games, and he is okay, but nothing more. he looked great opposite of a healthy pronger, but then again a lot of guys would. first off, he is going to be incredibly overpaid. secondly, his skill set is average for what he is. but most of all, he literally is the exact opposite of the type of defenseman this team needs. if a team is going to overpay for him, it should be someone like the oilers, who really as of now need that decent puck moving type.

Could we make both work if we just moved a 2 million dollar salary like, say, TK?
- ryman1566

Not unless Parise takes less then $7.5M AAV or Suter less then $6.5M AAV. And by less I mean about $500K year.

Problem is that would put us right at the cap, and not Shero likes that. IMO we would need to move Martin.

I'm with you HELL NO! Thats K-son money and he's not even worth that. Letang will garner that or more and he's quality 2 ways
- HopintheCordoba

its crazy. if carle is worth 6. letang is worth pushing 9. is that really what this league is coming to?

Could we make both work if we just moved a 2 million dollar salary like, say, TK?
- ryman1566

Dupuis-Crosby-Parise
Kunitz-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Kennedy
Adams-Vitale-Jeffrey

Letang-Orpik
Martin- Suter
Niskanen-Engellend
Despres

Fleury
Vokoun

Say we have 14.5 in space, the bolded are the only unsigned positions.

Figure Niskanen getting 2.5 means we have 12 mill in cap space. If we sign Parise it won't be for less than 7 which takes us to 5.

We could trade Kennedy and that space goes up to 7 which might be enough to sign Suter.

Except then we need to find a 12th forward and we would have no money to upgrade elsewhere or to carry into the season/deadline.

Trade Martin for dirty underwear and we're laughing.

Dupuis-Crosby-Parise
Kunitz-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Kennedy
Adams-Vitale-Jeffrey

Letang-Orpik
Martin- Suter
Niskanen-Engellend
Despres

Fleury
Vokoun

Say we have 14.5 in space, the bolded are the only unsigned positions.

Figure Niskanen getting 2.5 means we have 12 mill in cap space. If we sign Parise it won't be for less than 7 which takes us to 5.

We could trade Kennedy and that space goes up to 7 which might be enough to sign Suter.

Except then we need to find a 12th forward and we would have no money to upgrade elsewhere or to carry into the season/deadline.

Trade Martin for dirty underwear and we're laughing.
- canadianpenfan

no to Kennedy on this team and no to jeffery on the 4th line. we need more grit and sandpaper. go after a guy like Prust or Moen.