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Aaron Musick
Colorado Avalanche
Location: NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C OR, CO
Joined: 12.17.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:11 PM ET
Aaron Musick: Johnson to Philly?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:13 PM ET
You should've talked about the weather. That is a horrible trade. Unless of course Johnson demanded a trade out of COL, even then it's not exactly that good of a return.
Aaron Musick
Colorado Avalanche
Location: NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C OR, CO
Joined: 12.17.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:17 PM ET
You should've talked about the weather. That is a horrible trade. Unless of course Johnson demanded a trade out of COL, even then it's not exactly that good of a return.
- Lahey


If I talked about the weather, I would have talked about a stink being carried a long the winds.

To be clear, I hate this rumor.
Nez1976
Colorado Avalanche
Location: FL
Joined: 06.08.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:18 PM ET
You should've talked about the weather. That is a horrible trade. Unless of course Johnson demanded a trade out of COL, even then it's not exactly that good of a return.
- Lahey



Totally agree, I think in the long term Johnson will be more of an asset to his team as a defensmen than JVR will be as a forward.

We don't need to trade when there is plenty of free agents that we can sign.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:19 PM ET
If I talked about the weather, I would have talked about a stink being carried a long the winds.

To be clear, I hate this rumor.

- martok2309

Make it something interesting like Schenn and JVR or Couturier and JVR, but a 40 point forward for a top pairing d-man is just awful.
Rimland
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jun 20 @ 3:19 PM ET
um... doesn't Colorado need D-fence?

hope Coburn is the return !

otherwise, horrible idea for a trade !
jonathonpeddle
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Newfounland, NF
Joined: 11.24.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:23 PM ET
Col: JVR, Schen, rights to Carle
Phil: Johnson and a pick

im not the biggest Johnson fan but this is the only way i make this trade. JVR has to many question marks with him. and if we did this trade we would have to send big money to Suter in hopes to sign him so we could get a top 2 Dman.

Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jun 20 @ 3:26 PM ET
Yes please!
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jun 20 @ 3:33 PM ET
Col: JVR, Schen, rights to Carle
Phil: Johnson and a pick

im not the biggest Johnson fan but this is the only way i make this trade. JVR has to many question marks with him. and if we did this trade we would have to send big money to Suter in hopes to sign him so we could get a top 2 Dman.

- jonathonpeddle



hell no
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:34 PM ET
There better be a lot more coming back besidse a first round pick. I love EJ's game the last half of the season, he is starting to come into his own, a realiable top pairing D-Man.

Only way I can see this balancing out is if we get 2 top 6 fowards (one being a natural centremen), like Schenn and JVR, so we can trade Stastny off for a D-Man

I dont like the idea to begin with, but if we were offered something in that realm, you might have to think about it before hanging up the phone on Homer
jonathonpeddle
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Newfounland, NF
Joined: 11.24.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:37 PM ET
or how about a 3 way deal:

Philly: Johnson, Col 2nd
Ana: JVR, Schenn, Barrie, Philly 3rd
Col: Ryan, Rights to Carle

Might be some better players to plug in but it gives Philly there Dman, Ana gets a second line and a young puck moving dman, Col gets a goal scoreing winger and the chance to sign Carle.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:37 PM ET
I really have to wonder about the state of JvR's overall health considering how hard the Flyers have been trying to include him in just about every trade.

nightmare3020
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor Area, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jun 20 @ 3:40 PM ET
Col: JVR, Schen, rights to Carle
Phil: Johnson and a pick

im not the biggest Johnson fan but this is the only way i make this trade. JVR has to many question marks with him. and if we did this trade we would have to send big money to Suter in hopes to sign him so we could get a top 2 Dman.

- jonathonpeddle

i was thinking jvr and a signed carle may make it worth it to colorado but i think schenn is asking way too much
Drij
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.24.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:41 PM ET
dont see it.
Avs-Ice
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Boulder, CO
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 20 @ 3:42 PM ET
Wouldn't do it, as we gave up a lot for Johnson to give up on him now. Then we would have a huge hole in the 1-2 pairing as Johnson is the only one who fits in there now.
jonathonpeddle
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Newfounland, NF
Joined: 11.24.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:42 PM ET
i was thinking jvr and a signed carle may make it worth it to colorado but i think schenn is asking way too much
- nightmare3020




Having carle signed would be a big thing but his rights are not worth anything if the Avs couldnt sign him, so thats where Schenn would come in.
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
Location: https://nhl66.ir/
Joined: 07.23.2010

Jun 20 @ 3:44 PM ET
i was the random twitter person who made this "rumor" up
Drij
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 06.24.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:48 PM ET
yeah who the hell is Jimmy Stizzle ?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:49 PM ET
If this goes down, its offically, we are the Oakland Athletics of the NHL,
cheap and just sell off our talent to the East for a Song and Dance
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Jun 20 @ 3:51 PM ET
Apparently JVR is getting traded to every team. Huge red flag there. Hasn't he also had a bunch of pretty serious injuries? I would not make that deal if I was the Avs.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jun 20 @ 3:55 PM ET
Make it something interesting like Schenn and JVR or Couturier and JVR, but a 40 point forward for a top pairing d-man is just awful.
- Lahey

Huh? Jvr was on pace for 30 goals before his injury. I think thats pretty valuable for any team
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jun 20 @ 3:56 PM ET
Philly isnt gonna trade Schenn. He is theyre 2nd line center next year. He had a stellar playoffs. He and Couturier are gonna be a beast of a combo behind Giroux and Hartnell.

Also after giving up way to much to get EJ. Avs better hold onto him and develop him. You guys could use JVR. But not for EJ. Not saying either team gets the upper hand or anything. But the Avs are deeply invested in him.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jun 20 @ 3:57 PM ET
Apparently JVR is getting traded to every team. Huge red flag there. Hasn't he also had a bunch of pretty serious injuries? I would not make that deal if I was the Avs.
- howiehandles

Not serious injuries, unlucky ones. Like when he dove to block a shot and it broke his foot. He has atleast shown some heart
jtommyt
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.02.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:57 PM ET
Isn't defense the weak spot on this team right now?

Why would the Avs deal from weakness to add to their strengths...?

This rumour's not even worth discussing.
Aaron Musick
Colorado Avalanche
Location: NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C OR, CO
Joined: 12.17.2007

Jun 20 @ 4:17 PM ET
Isn't defense the weak spot on this team right now?

Why would the Avs deal from weakness to add to their strengths...?

This rumour's not even worth discussing.

- jtommyt


Offense is actually weaker. Defense was a lot better last year, a lot of that because of Johnson. It just doesn't look like when the Flames see us because the Avs play terrible against Calgary.

The Avs have a lot of players and prospects on the defensive front but none of them outside Johnson promise to be top pairing players.

This is why signing Suter and keeping Johnson makes perfect sense.
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