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Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 28 @ 11:30 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Jagr, Delco Demons
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

May 28 @ 11:40 AM ET
Happy Memorial Day to you as well, Bill, and to everyone else as well.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

May 28 @ 12:16 PM ET
* Jagr said that he's in no hurry to decide about where he'll play next year, and put the ball in the Flyers' court to determine what direction they want to go in terms of keeping him in the same role on the top line or looking elsewhere. He reiterated that he will not return to the club in a reduced role.
- bmeltzer


Tough call. Another year of his leadership and work ethic would sure be nice.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

May 28 @ 12:23 PM ET
Tough call. Another year of his leadership and work ethic would sure be nice.
- tangent_man


Replace him with Doan. Problem solved.
sarmen25
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.09.2006

May 28 @ 12:25 PM ET
Replace him with Doan. Problem solved.
- 77rams


best comment yet.
NorthwoodsWriter
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 09.17.2005

May 28 @ 12:34 PM ET
Replace him with Doan. Problem solved.
- 77rams


Doan will stay in Phoenix if the ownership seems stable. He's repeatedly said he wants to finish his career there as he's built deep connections there.

If the Phoenix situation remains murky, he'll probably go after a Cup, but may elect to play somewhere closer to home than Philly. It's a tough call though.

I think though that Philly should go out of their way to keep Jagr at a reasonable price. I really think his leadership and presence helped many of the players this past year and would do the same next year. I think he also helped the team cope with Bryzgalov.

I think the biggest/best move Philly could make is to offer Sean Burke a lot of money as the goalie coach if Phoenix lets his contract expire.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

May 28 @ 12:43 PM ET
QuietBuzz
sarmen25
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.09.2006

May 28 @ 12:43 PM ET
Doan will stay in Phoenix if the ownership seems stable. He's repeatedly said he wants to finish his career there as he's built deep connections there.

If the Phoenix situation remains murky, he'll probably go after a Cup, but may elect to play somewhere closer to home than Philly. It's a tough call though.

I think though that Philly should go out of their way to keep Jagr at a reasonable price. I really think his leadership and presence helped many of the players this past year and would do the same next year. I think he also helped the team cope with Bryzgalov.

I think the biggest/best move Philly could make is to offer Sean Burke a lot of money as the goalie coach if Phoenix lets his contract expire.

- NorthwoodsWriter


everyone is making it seem that Jagr is the guru of leadership...would i wanna keep him? sure...would he be a big loss if he doesn't re-sign? no not at all...the dude was quite invisible throughout the playoffs too..

agree about Burke...if you have invested so much time and money to Bryz, you gotta get him the goalie coach that made him shine...let's hope Homer realizes the same thing and gets him.




roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

May 28 @ 12:47 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Jagr, Delco Demons
- bmeltzer


I liked Carter and Richards when they played here but I also like the return. I'm also a firm believer that neither player is playing to their capabilities. They were secondary scoring here and they're secondary scoring for the Kings right now. Both totals have dropped off in the past 2 season, when both are 2 young players who's totals should only be getting better. Maybe I am buying into Media hype but I don't think they took Hockey series enough here and these were 2 of our leaders in the locker room. These guys have half of a year to party and the other half to focus on Hockey. If a cop is off duty, they're still a cop. These guys represent the Philadelphia Flyers on the ice and away from the ice (especially during the regular season). You can't be perfect all the time but try and stay as classy as possible when you know you're going to be recognized.

With this said I'll be happy to see Richards, Carter, Gagne, Williams, Hextall and Stevens win it all. I'll be happy for the Kings themselves to win because the organization deserves it. Even Gretzky couldn't do it for them. The Kings are way over due.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 28 @ 12:48 PM ET
everyone is making it seem that Jagr is the guru of leadership...would i wanna keep him? sure...would he be a big loss if he doesn't re-sign? no not at all...the dude was quite invisible throughout the playoffs too..

agree about Burke...if you have invested so much time and money to Bryz, you gotta get him the goalie coach that made him shine...let's hope Homer realizes the same thing and gets him.

- sarmen25


He wasn't invisible in the Pittsburgh series. In fact, the only game where he didn't get a point (Game 6) was probably his best game of the series; and that's the one where he suffered the thigh muscle pull that bothered him during the NJ series. His worst game of the series was Game 2 -- and that's the one where he scored the winning goal in the third period.



sarmen25
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.09.2006

May 28 @ 12:50 PM ET
He wasn't invisible in the Pittsburgh series. In fact, the only game where he didn't get a point (Game 6) was probably his best game of the series; and that's the one where he suffered the thigh muscle pull that bothered him during the NJ series. His worst game of the series was Game 2 -- and that's the one where he scored the winning goal in the third period.
- bmeltzer



just got Lawyered from Bill!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 28 @ 2:20 PM ET
Happy Memorial Day.



My old ship, The Big Nasty, USS Nassau LHA-4.

rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

May 28 @ 2:29 PM ET
I wish no ill on either Richards or Carter but, by the same token, I'm not going to proclaim how happy I am that they're on a team playing for the Cup.

The mere thought of un-clutch Carter hoisting the Cup makes me ill.

The rest of the ex-Flyers, both on the ice, behind the bench and in front office I'm fine with winning it all.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

May 28 @ 2:30 PM ET
Happy Memorial Day.



My old ship, The Big Nasty, USS Nassau LHA-4.

- Jsaquella


Nice.

Floating small city.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 28 @ 2:36 PM ET
Completely unrelated: Anyone see this on NHL.com http://video.nhl.com/vide...onsole?catid=35&id=175074

Best hits of the Playoffs with Schenn getting smoked twice and the Flyers having 2 of their own. Keep your head up Schenn! Great hit by Rhinaldo, would like to see him back in the lineup next year with a short leash and some mentoring.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 28 @ 2:37 PM ET
Nice.

Floating small city.

- rockychocbill


Really was. Fully loaded she carried 3000 crew and Marines.

She was decommissioned last year, now kept in Texas. Family kind of twisted my arm to participate in a Memorial Day event. Kids asked about the ship I was on, and I started looking up the old photos and videos.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 28 @ 2:38 PM ET
Really was. Fully loaded she carried 3000 crew and Marines.

She was decommissioned last year, now kept in Texas. Family kind of twisted my arm to participate in a Memorial Day event. Kids asked about the ship I was on, and I started looking up the old photos and videos.

- Jsaquella


Thank you for your service and the service of our other finest men and women.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

May 28 @ 2:42 PM ET
Really was. Fully loaded she carried 3000 crew and Marines.

She was decommissioned last year, now kept in Texas. Family kind of twisted my arm to participate in a Memorial Day event. Kids asked about the ship I was on, and I started looking up the old photos and videos.

- Jsaquella


My dad was in the service for 26 years. I have nothing but the utmost respect for anyone who has ever put on a uniform to serve their country in the name of freedom.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 28 @ 2:59 PM ET
Happy Memorial Day to you as well, Bill, and to everyone else as well.
- Deasr1


This along with thanking our military.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

May 28 @ 4:59 PM ET
Completely unrelated: Anyone see this on NHL.com http://video.nhl.com/vide...onsole?catid=35&id=175074

Best hits of the Playoffs with Schenn getting smoked twice and the Flyers having 2 of their own. Keep your head up Schenn! Great hit by Rhinaldo, would like to see him back in the lineup next year with a short leash and some mentoring.

- coffee junkie

Yeah that sucks that he was the victim or 2 crazy hits but to me the only flaw the Brayden Schenn is he isn't a Flyers original draft pick. I love this kid. If the Flyers can stand their ground, I have no doubt a team that features Giroux, JvR, Schenn, Couturier, Voracek, Simmonds and Read will be a force.
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

May 28 @ 6:57 PM ET
I like both Carter and Richards ... Richards was my favourite player when he played for the Flyers ... I am still a fan! I would love to see all the ex-Flyers get their names on the cup! I hope Gagne can get in some games. I would like to see him come back to Philly so he could retire as a Flyer!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 28 @ 7:08 PM ET
I like both Carter and Richards ... Richards was my favourite player when he played for the Flyers ... I am still a fan! I would love to see all the ex-Flyers get their names on the cup! I hope Gagne can get in some games. I would like to see him come back to Philly so he could retire as a Flyer!
- Cable2k


Seconded!
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 28 @ 7:42 PM ET
Maybe Richie, Carts, Gagne, Stevens, Williams, and Hexy will bring the Cup to Philly after they win it like Bourque did in Boston.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 28 @ 7:53 PM ET
I like both Carter and Richards ... Richards was my favourite player when he played for the Flyers ... I am still a fan! I would love to see all the ex-Flyers get their names on the cup! I hope Gagne can get in some games. I would like to see him come back to Philly so he could retire as a Flyer!
- Cable2k

Well, considering that Zubrus is a Devil, you can't have all of them win it this year. I'm rooting for Z.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

May 28 @ 7:55 PM ET
Well, considering that Zubrus is a Devil, you can't have all of them win it this year. I'm rooting for Z.
- bodiva88

What!? Why??
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