Eklund
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vowswithin
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Kingston, ON Joined: 10.07.2010
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ryman1566
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Let's Go Pens, PA Joined: 02.06.2007
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Guess Dale realized quickly that he didn't feel like putting up with Ovi for anymore than what, 5-6 months. Seemed like he was doing some good there. |
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Kovaltron
New Jersey Devils |
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Joined: 01.09.2012
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Wait. Semin played his best hockey in the playoffs? Did I miss something? |
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Buff_jordan14
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Calgary, AB Joined: 07.08.2007
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Semin? Yes, he was amazingly weak on the puck while back checking hard every single shift. Lots of turnovers too. Invisible for most of playoffs, had a few good shifts maybe one or two good games. 3g, 1a -4 in 14 games is not even close to the level he has played for stretches of past regular seasons.
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Buff_jordan14
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Calgary, AB Joined: 07.08.2007
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Wait. Semin played his best hockey in the playoffs? Did I miss something? - Kovaltron
Yeah, I had to read it five times to be sure I read it properly. Guy is likely going to get low ball offers and head to the KHL.
Unless some desperate team decides to empty the bank and doesn't mind playoff ghosts. |
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JSC
Florida Panthers |
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Location: The Banana Throwing Capital of Canada, London, ON Joined: 02.29.2008
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Knights in the mem cup this week, and should definitely make a charge again next year. Seems like a good chance to step away and walk back in to his comfort zone. |
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Semin scored four in fourteen (0.28) during these playoffs. His playoff PPG average coming into 2011-2012 was 0.81 -- and was a PPG scorer [5G/9A] in the '06-'07 playoffs through fourteen games.
Oh, and as a regular season player, Semin's a 0.87 PPG player through 469 GP. Even more damning for his lack of production this year.
Combine that with his lifeless defensive play and innumerable neutral/offensive zone turnovers, and I'd chalk that up as his second worst post-season ever. He was pretty awful in '09-'10.
He was so bad, I'd actually be blown away if an NHL team offered him the contract he was looking for. Plenty of talent, but his focus and effort is simply zero. Really shames a guy like Ovechkin who does bust it game-in and game-out.
Just my $.02. |
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nickgregory
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: Raleigh, NC Joined: 09.15.2005
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Semin? Yes, he was amazingly weak on the puck while back checking hard every single shift. Lots of turnovers too. Invisible for most of playoffs, had a few good shifts maybe one or two good games. 3g, 1a -4 in 14 games is not even close to the level he has played for stretches of past regular seasons. - Buff_jordan14
yup, agree. I was laufhing reading Ek's quote...amusing when I thought there wasnt a player on the ice who looked like he gave less of a damn than Semin in Game 7 the other night |
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Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French Joined: 07.01.2006
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Eklund
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Eklund
Commissioner |
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Joined: 09.15.2005
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yup, agree. I was laufhing reading Ek's quote...amusing when I thought there wasnt a player on the ice who looked like he gave less of a damn than Semin in Game 7 the other night - nickgregory
in game 7...totaly agree. but there were times in these playoffs he was stronger in the playoffs than we have seen. |
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nightmare3020
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Windsor Area, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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semin will get $$ from a team in need of scoring but i wouldnt want him on my team
IMO washington needs to get a brown, iginla type of player. Someone to do the dirty work and grind it out when the fancy stuff isnt working
how would richards look there instead of L.A |
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Eklund
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Joined: 09.15.2005
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Semin scored four in fourteen (0.28) during these playoffs. His playoff PPG average coming into 2011-2012 was 0.81 -- and was a PPG scorer - Travis Yost[5G/9A] in the '06-'07 playoffs through fourteen games.
Oh, and as a regular season player, Semin's a 0.87 PPG player through 469 GP. Even more damning for his lack of production this year.
Combine that with his lifeless defensive play and innumerable neutral/offensive zone turnovers, and I'd chalk that up as his second worst post-season ever. He was pretty awful in '09-'10.
He was so bad, I'd actually be blown away if an NHL team offered him the contract he was looking for. Plenty of talent, but his focus and effort is simply zero. Really shames a guy like Ovechkin who does bust it game-in and game-out.
Just my $.02.
He has never produced in the playoffs...but he did skate harder in these playoffs (with the exception of game 7 in NY) than I can remember. Not all about points. Against Boston he was a big reason the Caps advanced.
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Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French Joined: 07.01.2006
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He has never produced in the playoffs...but he did skate harder in these playoffs (with the exception of game 7 in NY) than I can remember. Not all about points. Against Boston he was a big reason the Caps advanced. - Eklund
how do you judge this? |
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desi08
Washington Capitals |
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Location: Unless any of you plan on discussing the actual hockey topics that I write about, please stay the he, DC Joined: 01.10.2008
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Ek...
The Capitals combined Fenwick for the playoffs was -109. That's terrible. Absolutely terrible.
Alex Semin had the worst PDO among Capitals forwards with 965. Personally, Semin scored 3 times on 35 shots for a 8.5% (disappointing for Sasha, whose career average is north of 14%). But even worse– Capitals players scored on just 3.33% while he was on ice. |
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Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French Joined: 07.01.2006
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Ek...
The Capitals combined Fenwick for the playoffs was -109. That's terrible. Absolutely terrible.
Alex Semin had the worst PDO among Capitals forwards with 965. Personally, Semin scored 3 times on 35 shots for a 8.5% (disappointing for Sasha, whose career average is north of 14%). But even worse– Capitals players scored on just 3.33% while he was on ice. - desi08
but he skated harder |
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Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB Joined: 01.27.2010
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Ek...
The Capitals combined Fenwick for the playoffs was -109. That's terrible. Absolutely terrible.
Alex Semin had the worst PDO among Capitals forwards with 965. Personally, Semin scored 3 times on 35 shots for a 8.5% (disappointing for Sasha, whose career average is north of 14%). But even worse– Capitals players scored on just 3.33% while he was on ice. - desi08
Thank you. A post with actual evidence as opposed to all the perceptions in this thread. |
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He has never produced in the playoffs...but he did skate harder in these playoffs (with the exception of game 7 in NY) than I can remember. Not all about points. Against Boston he was a big reason the Caps advanced. - Eklund
He's paid (and will be paid, whether it's the NHL/KHL) to play role of scorer, though.
If you're looking at his overall game, I'd agree his defense marginally improved, but certainly not enough to warrant another oversized contract -- especially considering he was playing relatively protected minutes by Dale Hunter(-.34 Relative QualComp).
Should be noted that Ovechkin's Relative QualComp was comparable, but again, Ovechkin produced offensively in those minutes -- Semin didn't.
Semin's defensive numbers were expectedly low, too. Eight hits(18th on team in post-season), five blocked shots(15th on team in post-season). He did have twelve takeaways, but his giveaway/takeaway split was still an even 1.00.
Too many glaring numbers working against him, IMO. |
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Buff_jordan14
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Calgary, AB Joined: 07.08.2007
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He has never produced in the playoffs...but he did skate harder in these playoffs (with the exception of game 7 in NY) than I can remember. Not all about points. Against Boston he was a big reason the Caps advanced. - Eklund
He did not skate harder, AT ALL. He floated constantly. He barely back checked and was so weak on the puck it was embarrassing. Bruins and Rangers would strip the puck off him like he was a child. |
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ryman1566
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Let's Go Pens, PA Joined: 02.06.2007
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Semin should probably take his talents to Moscow, or St. Petersburg |
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Kovaltron
New Jersey Devils |
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Joined: 01.09.2012
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He did not skate harder, AT ALL. He floated constantly. He barely back checked and was so weak on the puck it was embarrassing. Bruins and Rangers would strip the puck off him like he was a child. - Buff_jordan14
Maybe I read it wrong but did Ek suggest that Semin played the best hockey of his NHL career or just in the playoffs? I read it as his entire career. Neither are remotely true. |
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duckyjets
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Location: Winnipeg, MB Joined: 02.11.2007
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I think he see's that Ovechkin and him will be butting heads all season so there is no point in coaching the team unless they were willing to get rid of him which they are not so the writing is on the wall. |
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nightmare3020
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Windsor Area, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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Semin should probably take his talents to Moscow, or St. Petersburg - ryman1566
hed fit in well with the soft forwards in vancouver |
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