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Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

May 1 @ 9:11 PM ET
Richard Cloutier: Johansen, Staal and The Russian Non-Factor
marty11
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 01.05.2010

May 1 @ 9:18 PM ET
nice blog. I see you are getting better at making potential trade blogs not sound the same.

EDIT: oh and First
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

May 1 @ 9:21 PM ET
Sorry but....Staal/Despres > Yakupov....
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 1 @ 9:23 PM ET
Evidence as to why you are one of the worst bloggers out there.

Staal, one of the best two-way forwards in the game for Gagner, who basically shot his load in a 2.5 week stretch. Sorry, you would have to add to that. Gagner doesn't help Pittsburgh at all.

Despres and Staal is ALOT better than the Russian.

Back to the drawing board Clouts. You are only concerned about what helps the Oilers without considering what helps the other team. Neither deal makes sense
Oil_Addict
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.18.2008

May 1 @ 9:27 PM ET
Sorry but....Staal/Despres > Yakupov....
- chompsey


Keep in mind that staal has one more year before he's a ufa. So yakupov> staal+ any Pittsburgh prospect
HallNEbs
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.10.2012

May 1 @ 9:28 PM ET
I am sure the fans in Edmonton realize A 37 year old Smyth is not the 28 year old player they used to love and would sooner see him play for Calgary than have him play at the expence of any of the kids.
jamestown83
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.27.2006

May 1 @ 9:31 PM ET
I bet you if I really tried I could find a stack of Russian players who don't fit into the alleged "Russian Factor

Ok Clouts im asking u to try??
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

May 1 @ 9:34 PM ET
Evidence as to why you are one of the worst bloggers out there.

Staal, one of the best two-way forwards in the game for Gagner, who basically shot his load in a 2.5 week stretch. Sorry, you would have to add to that. Gagner doesn't help Pittsburgh at all.

Despres and Staal is ALOT better than the Russian.

Back to the drawing board Clouts. You are only concerned about what helps the Oilers without considering what helps the other team. Neither deal makes sense

- Oneonta Penguin


Gagner to Pittsburgh for Staal absolutely helps when you consider Staal isn't going to re-sign there in a year and the team will get nothing if he walks.
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

May 1 @ 9:34 PM ET
I bet you if I really tried I could find a stack of Russian players who don't fit into the alleged "Russian Factor

Ok Clouts im asking u to try??

- jamestown83


On man, don't ask me to do work at this time of day.

Yashin? How about him?
HallNEbs
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.10.2012

May 1 @ 9:35 PM ET
Evidence as to why you are one of the worst bloggers out there.

Staal, one of the best two-way forwards in the game for Gagner, who basically shot his load in a 2.5 week stretch. Sorry, you would have to add to that. Gagner doesn't help Pittsburgh at all.

Despres and Staal is ALOT better than the Russian.

Back to the drawing board Clouts. You are only concerned about what helps the Oilers without considering what helps the other team. Neither deal makes sense

- Oneonta Penguin

If you think Clouts is such a horrible blogger why do you keep trolling on this site
ryleybala22
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 04.20.2012

May 1 @ 9:35 PM ET
Maybe gagne and a 2nd for stall
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

May 1 @ 9:36 PM ET
If you think Clouts is such a horrible blogger why do you keep trolling on this site
- HallNEbs


In fairness to the Penguin dude, I've never seen him trolling on here before.
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

May 1 @ 9:36 PM ET
Maybe gagne and a 2nd for stall
- ryleybala22


There you go. Gagner and a 2nd for Staal. Tambellini, make it happen.
Oil Tycoon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Parts unknown, AB
Joined: 09.08.2009

May 1 @ 9:38 PM ET
I bet you if I really tried I could find a stack of Russian players who don't fit into the alleged "Russian Factor

Ok Clouts im asking u to try??

- jamestown83

-Fedorov
-Mogilny
-Bure
-Datsyuk
-Kovalchuk
-Malkin
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

May 1 @ 9:39 PM ET
Keep in mind that staal has one more year before he's a ufa. So yakupov> staal+ any Pittsburgh prospect
- Oil_Addict



I would make the assumption that Tambo wouldnt make the deal unless he could extend Staal, in which case....Staal/Despres > Yakupov....otherwise, I would agree with you....
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

May 1 @ 9:40 PM ET
Maybe gagne and a 2nd for stall
- ryleybala22



Staal is a beast....if he had first line minutes, he'd easily be a 80pt guy.......he'd be a great match with Hemsky....
Sharktank45
Minnesota Wild
Location: MN
Joined: 09.07.2009

May 1 @ 9:40 PM ET
7th pick, Clutterbuck and Hackett for Yakupov.
Oil_Addict
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.18.2008

May 1 @ 9:41 PM ET
I would make the assumption that Tambo wouldnt make the deal unless he could extend Staal, in which case....Staal/Despres > Yakupov....otherwise, I would agree with you....
- chompsey


Yeah agreed
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 1 @ 9:41 PM ET
I believe Johansen for Yakupov would be almost an equal deal.
- Maxbone


Let's not get carried away here...
jamestown83
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.27.2006

May 1 @ 9:42 PM ET
-Fedorov
-Mogilny
-Bure
-Datsyuk
-Kovalchuk
-Malkin

- Oil Tycoon


Fedorov, Mogilny and bure were all before the KHL or right at the end for federov. Kovalchuk isnt exactly widely known as a give it his all playoff performer. Datsyuk yes i agree. Malkin is only who he is cause of the team he is on imo, put him on C-bus and see how happy he is?? And OV is here cause he has a very north ameerican personality
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

May 1 @ 9:42 PM ET
I would make the assumption that Tambo wouldnt make the deal unless he could extend Staal, in which case....Staal/Despres > Yakupov....otherwise, I would agree with you....
- chompsey


See, but here's my thought: Staal, as good as he is, is a 50pts per season center. Despres is young. Looks like a hell of a prospect, but he's still young.

Yakupov has superstar potential. Neither Staal or Despres are or will become superstars. Is one superstar worth less than two "good" players? Don't think so. Good players can be found. Superstars? Not so much.
ryleybala22
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 04.20.2012

May 1 @ 9:42 PM ET
Trade prv and next year 2nd for a big power forward then trade hemsky and next years 1st for a top 2 Dmen
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 1 @ 9:43 PM ET
There you go. Gagner and a 2nd for Staal. Tambellini, make it happen.
- Maxbone



UMMM ... that is ridiculous. Gagner offers nothing to Pittsburgh, plus he is a PENDING RFA. So, the Pens fork over one of the best two-way forwards in the game for a pending RFA that shot his load in a 2.5 week period and a second? LOL.
oilers2k12
Edmonton Oilers
Location: near winnipeg, MB
Joined: 06.05.2011

May 1 @ 9:44 PM ET
Ive always wondered how Gagner would be in the east..
Gagner plus a second might be ok, but if Staal resigns in edmonton then Pens lose in the deal..

Bottom line is the team that ends up with the best player in the trade wins the deal, had there been no Forsberg in the Lindros trade the Avs likely would never have won the cup, a stash of very good players for a superstar is a terrible trade for the team trading away the star..no matter what the teams needs are..

Man I wish there was some new footage of Yakupov so that everybody would stop this trade talk nonsense..
Oil Tycoon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Parts unknown, AB
Joined: 09.08.2009

May 1 @ 9:45 PM ET
UMMM ... that is ridiculous. Gagner offers nothing to Pittsburgh, plus he is a PENDING RFA. So, the Pens fork over one of the best two-way forwards in the game for a pending RFA that shot his load in a 2.5 week period and a second? LOL.
- Oneonta Penguin

How about PRV + 2013 1st rounder?

Edit: for a signed Staal
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