Todd Cordell: Devils fall to Canucks 2-1, more on Marek Zidlicky + prospect notes

Todd Cordell: Devils fall to Canucks 2-1, more on Marek Zidlicky + prospect notes
- Todd.Cordell

O goals well worth 5 assets

O goals well worth 5 assets
- KilladelphiaFlyers

Palmieri is a fringe NHL player. Veilleux was recalled for the first time last week and played one or two games (5 minutes or so each game). Foster was a healthy scratch a few times and they gave a 2nd rounder. The 5th asset, a 3rd next year, is only given if they make the conference finals. If they do, it will be well worth it.

Veilleux's numbers

Regular season Playoffs
Season Team League GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
1998–99 Victoriaville Tigres QMJHL 65 6 13 19 35 6 1 3 4 2
1999–00 Victoriaville Tigres QMJHL 22 1 4 5 17 — — — — —
1999–00 Val-d'Or Foreurs QMJHL 50 14 28 42 100 — — — — —
2000–01 Val-d'Or Foreurs QMJHL 68 48 67 115 90 21 15 18 33 42
2001–02 Houston Aeros AHL 77 13 22 35 113 14 2 4 6 20
2002–03 Houston Aeros AHL 29 8 4 12 43 23 7 11 18 12
2002–03 Minnesota Wild NHL 38 3 2 5 23 — — — — —
2003–04 Houston Aeros AHL 64 13 25 38 66 2 1 1 2 2
2003–04 Minnesota Wild NHL 19 2 8 10 20 — — — — —
2004–05 Houston Aeros AHL 59 15 24 39 35 — — — — —
2005–06 Minnesota Wild NHL 71 7 9 16 63 — — — — —
2006–07 Minnesota Wild NHL 75 7 11 18 47 5 0 0 0 4
2007–08 Minnesota Wild NHL 77 11 7 18 61 6 0 0 0 27
2008–09 Minnesota Wild NHL 81 13 10 23 40 — — — — —
2009–10 Tampa Bay Lightning NHL 77 3 6 9 48 — — — — —
2010–11 Espoo Blues SM-l 25 1 6 7 18 — — — — —
2010–11 HC Ambri-Piotta NLA 7 0 0 0 4 — — — — —
2011–12 Albany Devils AHL 40 11 11 22 53 — — — — —
2011–12 New Jersey Devils NHL 1 0 0 0 0 — — — — —
NHL totals 439 46 53 99 302 11 0 0 0 31

I don't even think I would consider SV an "asset". He couldn't crack our lineup but one time this season, and Lou did right in sending him back to his hometown of St. Paul.

The conditional pick only kicks in if we make the ECF which I think all of us will be happy should that happen.

The 2nd rounder is the Crapitals, and is only as good as what the Wild draft.

Foster was a journeymen PP specialist, but a liability 5 v 5. I wish him luck and appreciate the time he spent here.

Palmieri could be in a sophomore slump. Or he could be a product of Jacques Lemaire's coaching and playing with Zajac/Kovy all last season. Who knows. The potential is there, but he wasn't exactly lighting up the scoreboard in Albany so with the emergence of Bernier he became expendable.

I'm happy with the deal

Veilleux's numbers

Regular season Playoffs
Season Team League GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
1998–99 Victoriaville Tigres QMJHL 65 6 13 19 35 6 1 3 4 2
1999–00 Victoriaville Tigres QMJHL 22 1 4 5 17 — — — — —
1999–00 Val-d'Or Foreurs QMJHL 50 14 28 42 100 — — — — —
2000–01 Val-d'Or Foreurs QMJHL 68 48 67 115 90 21 15 18 33 42
2001–02 Houston Aeros AHL 77 13 22 35 113 14 2 4 6 20
2002–03 Houston Aeros AHL 29 8 4 12 43 23 7 11 18 12
2002–03 Minnesota Wild NHL 38 3 2 5 23 — — — — —
2003–04 Houston Aeros AHL 64 13 25 38 66 2 1 1 2 2
2003–04 Minnesota Wild NHL 19 2 8 10 20 — — — — —
2004–05 Houston Aeros AHL 59 15 24 39 35 — — — — —
2005–06 Minnesota Wild NHL 71 7 9 16 63 — — — — —
2006–07 Minnesota Wild NHL 75 7 11 18 47 5 0 0 0 4
2007–08 Minnesota Wild NHL 77 11 7 18 61 6 0 0 0 27
2008–09 Minnesota Wild NHL 81 13 10 23 40 — — — — —
2009–10 Tampa Bay Lightning NHL 77 3 6 9 48 — — — — —
2010–11 Espoo Blues SM-l 25 1 6 7 18 — — — — —
2010–11 HC Ambri-Piotta NLA 7 0 0 0 4 — — — — —
2011–12 Albany Devils AHL 40 11 11 22 53 — — — — —
2011–12 New Jersey Devils NHL 1 0 0 0 0 — — — — —
NHL totals 439 46 53 99 302 11 0 0 0 31

I don't even think I would consider SV an "asset". He couldn't crack our lineup but one time this season, and Lou did right in sending him back to his hometown of St. Paul.

The conditional pick only kicks in if we make the ECF which I think all of us will be happy should that happen.

The 2nd rounder is the Crapitals, and is only as good as what the Wild draft.

Foster was a journeymen PP specialist, but a liability 5 v 5. I wish him luck and appreciate the time he spent here.

Palmieri could be in a sophomore slump. Or he could be a product of Jacques Lemaire's coaching and playing with Zajac/Kovy all last season. Who knows. The potential is there, but he wasn't exactly lighting up the scoreboard in Albany so with the emergence of Bernier he became expendable.

I'm happy with the deal
- ajpuleo23

You used different wording but essentially summed up my thoughts.

I doubt either Palimieri or Vellieux wouldve been recalled if not for the trade being in the works.


Question (Since this has not been brought up enough, and I am aware of Lamoriello's public stance....)


Given the rumors, Would you trade:

Parise for Brown, Bernier and a 1st round pick.

I doubt either Palimieri or Vellieux wouldve been recalled if not for the trade being in the works.


Question (Since this has not been brought up enough, and I am aware of Lamoriello's public stance....)


Given the rumors, Would you trade:

Parise for Brown, Bernier and a 1st round pick.
- njdevils350

No. I think the Devils would have some locker room issues if they traded their best player and Captain at the deadline. That, and if they acquired Bernier they would be screwing over Hedberg, who took a pay cut to stay in New Jersey. He has a NMC, too.

The Foster experiment was a failure. A lot of hype about his shot, but he can't ever hit the net. The rest of the players we traded away were completely worthless.

I like this trade a lot.

No. I think the Devils would have some locker room issues if they traded their best player and Captain at the deadline. That, and if they acquired Bernier they would be screwing over Hedberg, who took a pay cut to stay in New Jersey. He has a NMC, too.
- Todd.Cordell

I don't disagree.

I just think Dustin Brown is a vastly underpaid player (9.3 total over the next 3) and the idea of the Kings making him available is preposterous.

So, if he is indeed available, I think it needs to be considered. If you could choose a prime player to be part of a package, you might not find someone better all things considered. He makes no money and he is very similar to Parise in many ways.

the pp definitively improved with foster but its nothing i dont think zidlicky can completely replace and be better at 5 on 5. to me the trade is palmieri and a 2nd and a conditional 3rd for zidlicky.

palmieri has some potential and could become a good 3rd liner but i will miss the 2nd the most

the pp definitively improved with foster but its nothing i dont think zidlicky can completely replace and be better at 5 on 5. to me the trade is palmieri and a 2nd and a conditional 3rd for zidlicky.

palmieri has some potential and could become a good 3rd liner but i will miss the 2nd the most
- BDizzlez

Foster improved the PP the most with his ability to cleanly and accurately rotate the puck over to Kovalchuk, not with his shot.

The PP struggled earlier in the year because Fayne was having trouble getting the job done in that regard. Toop many times he would jam Kovalchuks skates or make him stretch out and that split second recovery time ruins the whole flow of the play.

The don't need the 95 MPH shot to remain effective.

So, I agree Zidlicky will be more than adequate. And may be able to help Larsson a little bit, who knows.

How the (frank) did Boulton score a hatrick on us?

Foster improved the PP the most with his ability to cleanly and accurately rotate the puck over to Kovalchuk, not with his shot.

The PP struggled earlier in the year because Fayne was having trouble getting the job done in that regard. Toop many times he would jam Kovalchuks skates or make him stretch out and that split second recovery time ruins the whole flow of the play.

The don't need the 95 MPH shot to remain effective.

So, I agree Zidlicky will be more than adequate. And may be able to help Larsson a little bit, who knows.
- njdevils350

Foster's shot also makes teams have to respect him, whereas Fayne is not a threat at all from the point, nor is Larsson at the moment.

I am still waiting for them to put Larsson back on the PP now that his offensive game has progressed and he is better than Fayne offensively.

Foster's shot also makes teams have to respect him, whereas Fayne is not a threat at all from the point, nor is Larsson at the moment.

I am still waiting for them to put Larsson back on the PP now that his offensive game has progressed and he is better than Fayne offensively.
- _Zippy_

Agreed, it's also much easier to take the slot pass away from Kovalchuk when you're not moved out of position challenging the opposite side point. In other words, if the defender doesnt have to step out to Fayne or Larsson he will be in a much better position to cover Elias across ice when the puck is rotated over to Kovalchuk.

Although, it's not a 95 MPH, I believe Zidlicky's shot should be more than adequate enough to prevent this from happening.

How the (frank) did Boulton score a hatrick on us?
- zach parise9

Thats what I want to know , did he even register a shot on goal as a Devil ? He got roughed up almost every time he dropped the gloves too . .

Agreed, it's also much easier to take the slot pass away from Kovalchuk when you're not moved out of position challenging the opposite side point. In other words, if the defender doesnt have to step out to Fayne or Larsson he will be in a much better position to cover Elias across ice when the puck is rotated over to Kovalchuk.

Although, it's not a 95 MPH, I believe Zidlicky's shot should be more than adequate enough to prevent this from happening.
- njdevils350

Zidlicky seems to have more offensive touch, he has put up 50 points in a season before, we'll see. Hopefully this invigorates his game, we might start turning into Detroit with these washed up pieces (Poni, Bernier) reviving their careers in NJ.

How the (frank) did Boulton score a hatrick on us?
- zach parise9

It took an empty net to compete it.

Foster's shot also makes teams have to respect him, whereas Fayne is not a threat at all from the point, nor is Larsson at the moment.

I am still waiting for them to put Larsson back on the PP now that his offensive game has progressed and he is better than Fayne offensively.
- _Zippy_

i'd give him some time once he gets back b4 saying his O game has progressed.. its been a while since he's played.

Line-up for tomorrow?

Kovalchuk-Henrique-Parise
Sykora-Elias-Clarkson
Poni-Zubrus-Bernier
Carter-Josefson-Janssen/Boulton

Volchenkov, Larsson, Salvador, Zidlicky, Fayne, Greene.

This is still missing Tallinder and Zajac. Our line-up looks good when those two come back.

Kovalchuk-Henrique-Parise
Sykora-Elias-Clarkson
Poni-Zajac-Zubrus
Carter-Josefson Bernier

Tallinder-Larsson
Salvador-Greene
Volchenkov-Zidlicky

Line-up for tomorrow?

Kovalchuk-Henrique-Parise
Sykora-Elias-Clarkson
Poni-Zubrus-Bernier
Carter-Josefson-Janssen/Boulton

Volchenkov, Larsson, Salvador, Zidlicky, Fayne, Greene.

This is still missing Tallinder and Zajac. Our line-up looks good when those two come back.

Kovalchuk-Henrique-Parise
Sykora-Elias-Clarkson
Poni-Zajac-Zubrus
Carter-Josefson Bernier

Tallinder-Larsson
Salvador-Greene
Volchenkov-Zidlicky


- _Zippy_

I actually like that line up. Defense looks solid if Tallinder comes back. Maybe switch Volchenkov and Greene if PD wants a shut down pair.

Line-up for tomorrow?

Kovalchuk-Henrique-Parise
Sykora-Elias-Clarkson
Poni-Zubrus-Bernier
Carter-Josefson-Janssen/Boulton

Volchenkov, Larsson, Salvador, Zidlicky, Fayne, Greene.

This is still missing Tallinder and Zajac. Our line-up looks good when those two come back.

Kovalchuk-Henrique-Parise
Sykora-Elias-Clarkson
Poni-Zajac-Zubrus
Carter-Josefson Bernier

Tallinder-Larsson
Salvador-Greene
Volchenkov-Zidlicky


- _Zippy_

switch Kovy and Parise and u have a winner!
switch some guys around and u still have a winner..
Elias-Zajac-Sykora
Poni-Zubrus-Clarkson

either or is money.

one thing i was looking at zidlicky's stats. he has 50 shots and 0 goals. i hope he does a lot better here.

one thing i was looking at zidlicky's stats. he has 50 shots and 0 goals. i hope he does a lot better here.
- BDizzlez

Also has 14 assists, look at the point production of Minny defensemen.

Also, Minny's PP, where he thrives, has been BAD too....

Also has 14 assists, look at the point production of Minny defensemen.

Also, Minny's PP, where he thrives, has been BAD too....
- _Zippy_

ya but 0 goals on 50 shots is pretty damn bad

ya but 0 goals on 50 shots is pretty damn bad
- BDizzlez

Some of our defenseman are worse.

Can't judge a d-man on goals, judge on the passing and assists, he will quicken the breakout and allow the forwards to move up the ice easier.