John Jaeckel: Hawk Rumors, 70 Hours Out

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The Hawks have had nine selections in the first two rounds over the last two years

NINE TIMES!

JJ , are they in on both Centers and will take the 1st one they get or do they want both ? Cant see the Ducks trading a D man being in the playoff hunt. 2 huge games this weekend. Hopefully "On Lockdown" means they are deciding what deal to take.

If no 1st coming back, then Burke would want a top prospect. What's the deal with Kyle Beach? 3rd liner?

Dennis Bernstein ‏ @DennisTFP
Since we're on topic of locker room chemistry, heard at Kings practice from NHL source that tone around Blackhawks not exactly nirvana.

Thanks for the update JJ.

In the "rumor game" (for lack of a better term) it's all about piecing together information and drawing logical conclusions. If JJ is hearing Stan's involved in trying to acquire a player he'll report it, but that doesn't mean the deal will happen. JJ has more "inside" information than most (if not all) of us, and I have no issue with him protecting his sources. It's all about maintaining relationships, and if JJ turns one of his contacts sour then that's 1 less source of information. We come to this site for fun and enterainment, let's relax and enjoy one of the more fun "non-hockey" times of the hockey year.

I don't understand either why they won't give up a 1st rd pick especially since they had 've had/acquired 15 guys in the first two rounds of the past 3 drafts (Leddy, Paradis, Olsen, Morin, Pirri, Hayes brothers, Rensfeldt, Holl, Simpson, Johns, McNeill, Danault, Clendening and Saad). That's unacceptable especially if it's going to be a late round pick.

Also I disagree with you totally on blaming the blue line for last night's loss. That loss is 100% on Hossa because he decided to cheat and do the same crap they did that got them in the 9 game skid. That play turned the whole game and Dallas had NOTHING up till that point. Every loss is not the blue line's fault, the defense was smothering last night for the majority of the game till Hos tried to get cute.

Just cause Hossa is an all world player doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve to get called out, he does because he single handedly cost the Hawks the game last night.

Thanks for the update JJ.

In the "rumor game" (for lack of a better term) it's all about piecing together information and drawing logical conclusions. If JJ is hearing Stan's involved in trying to acquire a player he'll report it, but that doesn't mean the deal will happen. JJ has more "inside" information than most (if not all) of us, and I have no issue with him protecting his sources. It's all about maintaining relationships, and if JJ turns one of his contacts sour then that's 1 less source of information. We come to this site for fun and enterainment, let's relax and enjoy one of the more fun "non-hockey" times of the hockey year.
- DarthKane

I can't agree anymore.. personally, I come here to get the rumors in one place..

I don't understand either why they won't give up a 1st rd pick especially since they had 've had/acquired 15 guys in the first two rounds of the past 3 drafts (Leddy, Paradis, Olsen, Morin, Pirri, Hayes brothers, Rensfeldt, Holl, Simpson, Johns, McNeill, Danault, Clendening and Saad). That's unacceptable especially if it's going to be a late round pick.

Also I disagree with you totally on blaming the blue line for last night's loss. That loss is 100% on Hossa because he decided to cheat and do the same crap they did that got them in the 9 game skid. That play turned the whole game and Dallas had NOTHING up till that point. Every loss is not the blue line's fault, the defense was smothering last night for the majority of the game till Hos tried to get cute.

Just cause Hossa is an all world player doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve to get called out, he does because he single handedly cost the Hawks the game last night.
- dan9189

Hossa is to blame on the one play.. one goal (No pun intended).. They won by 2.

Hey JJ. Stan MIGHT be able to get Lubo from the Ducks but with the Hawks cap situation there would have to be serious cash coming back. If I'm Bob Murray I'd want Hayes for sure but who else would he trade so the money would work. Sharp would work but I don't see that happening.

I don't understand either why they won't give up a 1st rd pick especially since they had 've had/acquired 15 guys in the first two rounds of the past 3 drafts (Leddy, Paradis, Olsen, Morin, Pirri, Hayes brothers, Rensfeldt, Holl, Simpson, Johns, McNeill, Danault, Clendening and Saad). That's unacceptable especially if it's going to be a late round pick.

Also I disagree with you totally on blaming the blue line for last night's loss. That loss is 100% on Hossa because he decided to cheat and do the same crap they did that got them in the 9 game skid. That play turned the whole game and Dallas had NOTHING up till that point. Every loss is not the blue line's fault, the defense was smothering last night for the majority of the game till Hos tried to get cute.

Just cause Hossa is an all world player doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve to get called out, he does because he single handedly cost the Hawks the game last night.
- dan9189

Took a home run gamble and lost. Not really fair to pin the whole evenings meltdown on him. Leddy was single handedly responsible for 2 of the 3 goals.

I don't understand either why they won't give up a 1st rd pick especially since they had 've had/acquired 15 guys in the first two rounds of the past 3 drafts (Leddy, Paradis, Olsen, Morin, Pirri, Hayes brothers, Rensfeldt, Holl, Simpson, Johns, McNeill, Danault, Clendening and Saad). That's unacceptable especially if it's going to be a late round pick.

Also I disagree with you totally on blaming the blue line for last night's loss. That loss is 100% on Hossa because he decided to cheat and do the same crap they did that got them in the 9 game skid. That play turned the whole game and Dallas had NOTHING up till that point. Every loss is not the blue line's fault, the defense was smothering last night for the majority of the game till Hos tried to get cute.

Just cause Hossa is an all world player doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve to get called out, he does because he single handedly cost the Hawks the game last night.
- dan9189

Do you call Kane out too? He does that way more than Hossa does. And it was not 100% Hossa's fault. One of the goals went off Seabrook becuase he didn't keep is foot down

I don't understand either why they won't give up a 1st rd pick especially since they had 've had/acquired 15 guys in the first two rounds of the past 3 drafts (Leddy, Paradis, Olsen, Morin, Pirri, Hayes brothers, Rensfeldt, Holl, Simpson, Johns, McNeill, Danault, Clendening and Saad). That's unacceptable especially if it's going to be a late round pick.

Also I disagree with you totally on blaming the blue line for last night's loss. That loss is 100% on Hossa because he decided to cheat and do the same crap they did that got them in the 9 game skid. That play turned the whole game and Dallas had NOTHING up till that point. Every loss is not the blue line's fault, the defense was smothering last night for the majority of the game till Hos tried to get cute.

Just cause Hossa is an all world player doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve to get called out, he does because he single handedly cost the Hawks the game last night.
- dan9189

Hossa deserves blame (somewhat—mostly) for the first goal.

If they don't give up goals 2 and 3— which Hossa had nothing to do with and Nick Leddy had a lot to do with, they get at least a point. Let's try to keep the discussion anchored in reality.

I don't understand either why they won't give up a 1st rd pick especially since they had 've had/acquired 15 guys in the first two rounds of the past 3 drafts (Leddy, Paradis, Olsen, Morin, Pirri, Hayes brothers, Rensfeldt, Holl, Simpson, Johns, McNeill, Danault, Clendening and Saad). That's unacceptable especially if it's going to be a late round pick.

Also I disagree with you totally on blaming the blue line for last night's loss. That loss is 100% on Hossa because he decided to cheat and do the same crap they did that got them in the 9 game skid. That play turned the whole game and Dallas had NOTHING up till that point. Every loss is not the blue line's fault, the defense was smothering last night for the majority of the game till Hos tried to get cute.

Just cause Hossa is an all world player doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve to get called out, he does because he single handedly cost the Hawks the game last night.
- dan9189

its laughable to blame an entire 60 minute game on 1 play. while i do agree it was a garbage play by hossa, if youve ever played any organized game in your life, you should know its never about only one play. even last years loss after campoli gave burrows the puck at the blue line to end the hawks playoffs, it still wasnt his fault only. theres a multitude of things that could have gone differently for the hawks to win that game. the whole team sat back and wanted to win 1-0...thats not only on hossa

Thanks for the update JJ.

In the "rumor game" (for lack of a better term) it's all about piecing together information and drawing logical conclusions. If JJ is hearing Stan's involved in trying to acquire a player he'll report it, but that doesn't mean the deal will happen. JJ has more "inside" information than most (if not all) of us, and I have no issue with him protecting his sources. It's all about maintaining relationships, and if JJ turns one of his contacts sour then that's 1 less source of information. We come to this site for fun and enterainment, let's relax and enjoy one of the more fun "non-hockey" times of the hockey year.
- DarthKane

You're welcome and thank you

Took a home run gamble and lost. Not really fair to pin the whole evenings meltdown on him. Leddy was single handedly responsible for 2 of the 3 goals.
- wildcatgoal

Those are the types of gambles that you can't take in a 1-0 game and in a playoff race. Not sure the 2nd goal was Leddy's fault and the 3rd goal was a blowout on him (which will happen from time to time) and was more of a fluke goal. I've been as tough on Leddy as anyone but I'm not pinning last night's loss on him. Hossa's selfish play cost the Hawks the game, yet no one wants to call him out on it. If Patrick Kane did that, half this board would want him traded today.

What's fair is fair, Hos cost the Hawks last night. Not the blue line, CC, John Scott, Bickell, Frolik, Bowman, McD, or anyone else that fans love to pin losses/struggles on. Hossa.

Anyone else see the official flames Twitter feed call the reported hemsky contract extension a joke? yikes!

as for the hawks, I haven't been as anxious going into a trade deadline since the one during the 91-92 season. Everyone knew the Hawks were 1, maybe 2 players away and they did nothing. This year is starting to have that same feeling, only instead of looking for offense like in 92, were looking for defense. Will we get it?

Those are the types of gambles that you can't take in a 1-0 game and in a playoff race. Not sure the 2nd goal was Leddy's fault and the 3rd goal was a blowout on him (which will happen from time to time) and was more of a fluke goal. I've been as tough on Leddy as anyone but I'm not pinning last night's loss on him. Hossa's selfish play cost the Hawks the game, yet no one wants to call him out on it. If Patrick Kane did that, half this board would want him traded today.

What's fair is fair, Hos cost the Hawks last night. Not the blue line, CC, John Scott, Bickell, Frolik, Bowman, McD, or anyone else that fans love to pin losses/struggles on. Hossa.
- dan9189

But they still lost by 2? No?

A point is a point.

Took a home run gamble and lost. Not really fair to pin the whole evenings meltdown on him. Leddy was single handedly responsible for 2 of the 3 goals.
- wildcatgoal

Absolutly correct

Those are the types of gambles that you can't take in a 1-0 game and in a playoff race. Not sure the 2nd goal was Leddy's fault and the 3rd goal was a blowout on him (which will happen from time to time) and was more of a fluke goal. I've been as tough on Leddy as anyone but I'm not pinning last night's loss on him. Hossa's selfish play cost the Hawks the game, yet no one wants to call him out on it. If Patrick Kane did that, half this board would want him traded today.

What's fair is fair, Hos cost the Hawks last night. Not the blue line, CC, John Scott, Bickell, Frolik, Bowman, McD, or anyone else that fans love to pin losses/struggles on. Hossa.
- dan9189

So the fact it has been pointed out that Hossa had ZERO to do with the 2nd and 3rd goal, you are still harping this point..

What's your beef with Hossa?

Those are the types of gambles that you can't take in a 1-0 game and in a playoff race. Not sure the 2nd goal was Leddy's fault and the 3rd goal was a blowout on him (which will happen from time to time) and was more of a fluke goal. I've been as tough on Leddy as anyone but I'm not pinning last night's loss on him. Hossa's selfish play cost the Hawks the game, yet no one wants to call him out on it. If Patrick Kane did that, half this board would want him traded today.

What's fair is fair, Hos cost the Hawks last night. Not the blue line, CC, John Scott, Bickell, Frolik, Bowman, McD, or anyone else that fans love to pin losses/struggles on. Hossa.
- dan9189

It cost them a goal. They should have got it back, but didn't. If it was 0-0 when they scored then yes, he cost them the game.

It cost them a goal. They should have got it back, but didn't. If it was 0-0 when they scored then yes, he cost them the game.
- bhammer-89

Who scored the Goal to make it 1-0 for the Hawks..

I say that yesterday's loss goes to everyone ...except maybe Crow! Your defense lacked in the final 20 minutes, you still had ppl trying to cheat and get a odd man/breakaway #81 & #88, Coach Q went back to line changing during the game. Yesterday was the first time I would've like to see more of Jammer & Scott! The Hawks get out hit 40 to 20 (don't know exact # but I know im close) is madning! C2 kept you in the game and was making save after save. The guy can't play defense for you too. Leddy no reason for you to be falling down in your own zone when no one is near you.and yet AGAIN leddy is off drifting while 2every Stars players are sitting right in front of C2 (2nd goal I believe).
Don't understand how this team has crubbled so quickly. Injuries happen, and the team/individuals need to stop relying so much on #19! Be that guy...be the guy who says "Ill take the lead," I just don't see it in the players we have on the ice and I'm sorry to say that. I really am!

Lastly....Bowmanplease stop with your grudge of not wanting to give up this years or next years 1stdraft rd pick. They're crap shoots! U get a guy who's early or mid 20's now, they just saved you time of waiting to see what you got in the minors. You know exactly what your trading for! Whether it be a 2ndline Centre, a Winger who has sandpaper, or a big nasty stay at home Defenseman. You can get the same type of player from pick #20 as you can in the 2nd rd at #55.