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Steven Hindle
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 03.29.2010

Feb 21 @ 12:22 PM ET
Steven Hindle: The Logical Choice to Succeed Pierre Gauthier as Habs GM - The Logical Choice to Succeed Pierre Gauthier as Habs GM
Habfan in Leafland
Joined: 04.14.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:27 PM ET
As long as he's willing to focus on a rebuild rather than continue to try to be competitive without the right pieces.
madkenny
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 02.27.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:28 PM ET
NO.
madkenny
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 02.27.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:32 PM ET
Again NO.
QuebecPride
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Sherbrooke, QC
Joined: 11.30.2009

Feb 21 @ 12:34 PM ET
Don't you think it will be the same song played once again?

Will it be any different with Carrière?
TheMike12
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:35 PM ET
PIERREE MCGUUUUIRE!!! DOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT!!!!

habs will be MONSTERS!!!!
CaseysHabs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Mississauga
Joined: 02.15.2011

Feb 21 @ 12:36 PM ET
I'll support anyone who is not Pierre McGuire and who is committed to hiring a coach that is not Patrick Roy. I read so much crap about those two being the solution in Montreal. That is scary to me... both from the perspective of what each really brings, and also that a fan base that is allegedly so knowledgeable can come up with this pair.

So who do you reckon will coach? While I hoped Cunneyworth would silence his critics, I don't believe he is really the guy for the job long term. Would love to hear your thoughts, Steven. Or perhaps this is another blog for another day...
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Feb 21 @ 12:38 PM ET
Steven Hindle: The Logical Choice to Succeed Pierre Gauthier as Habs GM
- The Logical Choice to Succeed Pierre Gauthier as Habs GM

- hindlehabs


If I get a phone call from the Habs to be GM I'll say yes.
PRICEless
Montreal Canadiens
Location: On sait JAMAIS!!! Faut pas jet, QC
Joined: 10.11.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:38 PM ET
The MTL fans are looking for new blood to take over the team's reigns. Someone who's in the same position that Gauthier himself was in before he got the job just wont do as far as public opinion goes.

Personally i dont give a damn, i dont even think they should fire Gauthier. The problem this year is with the players rather than management. Management didnt let +/- 20 3rd period leads go to waste.
madkenny
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 02.27.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:38 PM ET
I spent some seconds thinking about it, and... wait a sec..
It's still a NO.


This team doesn't need "blablabla got experience" "blablabla 50 years doing NHL stuff" "blablabla experience", "blablabla, scouted somewhere and everywhere".

If that is what the team needs, bring back Bob Gainey LOL.

This team needs BALLS at ALL LEVELS. So for GM position, i say PATRICK ROY or years of this "blablabla got 20 years experience".
PRICEless
Montreal Canadiens
Location: On sait JAMAIS!!! Faut pas jet, QC
Joined: 10.11.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:39 PM ET
I'll support anyone who is not Pierre McGuire and who is committed to hiring a coach that is not Patrick Roy. I read so much crap about those two being the solution in Montreal. That is scary to me... both from the perspective of what each really brings, and also that a fan base that is allegedly so knowledgeable can come up with this pair.

So who do you reckon will coach? While I hoped Cunneyworth would silence his critics, I don't believe he is really the guy for the job long term. Would love to hear your thoughts, Steven. Or perhaps this is another blog for another day...

- CaseysHabs


Reminds me of what's happening with the new Quebec political party, CAQ. They're a poopty, populistic rebranded ADQ yet since they're "new", people are going to vote for them.
PRICEless
Montreal Canadiens
Location: On sait JAMAIS!!! Faut pas jet, QC
Joined: 10.11.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:41 PM ET
I spent some seconds thinking about it, and... wait a sec..
It's still a NO.


This team doesn't need "blablabla got experience" "blablabla 50 years doing NHL stuff" "blablabla experience", "blablabla, scouted somewhere and everywhere".

If that is what the team needs, bring back Bob Gainey LOL.

This team needs BALLS at ALL LEVELS. So for GM position, i say PATRICK ROY or years of this "blablabla got 20 years experience".

- madkenny


And you've made this deduction how?

I'm sure you're a great insider and obviously you know what this team really needs.

Im also certain that you didnt throw Roy's name in there simply because thats what the french medias have been doing for the last couple of years. No correlation at all, you are a free spirit.
BleedingHabs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Behind enemy lines, ON
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 21 @ 12:43 PM ET

He has scouted at all levels both locally and internationally and has coaching and management experience at the levels that matter most, so why look elsewhere?


The same reason that Montreal should have looked elsewhere after Gainey stepped down. You have to do your due diligence with these hirings or you can set your team back years. Carrière may very well be the best guy, but you HAVE to look elsewhere. For my money, I'd prefer someone like Paul Fenton from Nashville, Jim Benning from Boston, Jim Nill from Detroit or Jarmo Kekäläinen. If bilingualism is a necessary prerequisite (and for the amount of time Gauthier talks to the media it shouldn't be) then it may be worthwhile mining Burke's managerial dream team and name Claude Loiselle GM with Rick Dudley as Ass. GM.

So long as Molson and Co. actually have a dedicated search process, I'm fine. If they interview multiple qualified candidates and decide that Carrière is the best choice then I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Just don't choose him right away without looking at anyone else.
Puckers
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.06.2011

Feb 21 @ 12:43 PM ET
So PG will then be kept on as an advisor to LC, and BG is an advisor to PG and
Steven Hindle
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 03.29.2010

Feb 21 @ 12:43 PM ET
Don't you think it will be the same song played once again?

Will it be any different with Carrière?

- QuebecPride


I honestly do.

And I also do not see the value in hiring people with no connection to the current club. While I can appreciate the need for a different direction, I think people overlook the need for those in management to be familiar with the situation.

Watching from afar doesn't exactly equate to actually being there.

People have to remember that if they don't want a rebuild of the roster, you can't act like hiring all new coaches and management isn't exactly the same thing.

There has to be a modicum of consistency with the future group. Whether Carriere may be the appropriate choice is up for debate, but my point is that he fits all the needs and has the current involvement with the team that you could say he's already being groomed for the role.

The fact that he's not a Mcguire or Roy doesn't mean as much to me as the fact that he knows what's going on.

Contrary to possibly controversial candidates, he brings more experience within the league than most.

The way the team plays in the future needs to change, but I'm not so confident a complete overhaul behind the bench and up top will have an entirely positive affect on the players the team keeps.

We'll see, but I'm far more confident giving the opportunity to someone who's naturally in line for the job than someone from outside the circle.

Not to say it won't happen, only that this is what I consider to be the logical choice.
ShafterBenRaide
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Proud fan of a bad team.
Joined: 06.20.2010

Feb 21 @ 12:44 PM ET
Steven Hindle: The Logical Choice to Succeed Pierre Gauthier as Habs GM
- The Logical Choice to Succeed Pierre Gauthier as Habs GM

- hindlehabs



Please no, we need new blood. Gainey, Gaithier, Carriere = the same thing.
onecapitalsfan
Washington Capitals
Location: MD
Joined: 02.09.2010

Feb 21 @ 12:44 PM ET
George McPhee.
Steven Hindle
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 03.29.2010

Feb 21 @ 12:49 PM ET
The same reason that Montreal should have looked elsewhere after Gainey stepped down. You have to do your due diligence with these hirings or you can set your team back years. Carrière may very well be the best guy, but you HAVE to look elsewhere. For my money, I'd prefer someone like Paul Fenton from Nashville, Jim Benning from Boston, Jim Nill from Detroit or Jarmo Kekäläinen. If bilingualism is a necessary prerequisite (and for the amount of time Gauthier talks to the media it shouldn't be) then it may be worthwhile mining Burke's managerial dream team and name Claude Loiselle GM with Rick Dudley as Ass. GM.

So long as Molson and Co. actually have a dedicated search process, I'm fine. If they interview multiple qualified candidates and decide that Carrière is the best choice then I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Just don't choose him right away without looking at anyone else.

- BleedingHabs


I will definitely agree with you on the due diligence, though that's what Molson did when he snatched Carriere away from the Caps two years ago.

That said, I never said there weren't other qualified candidates currently in similar management positions across the league, but I do feel a familiarity with the team's current situation is pretty vital.

The point in all of this is what you've described though, look outside the box. I think it's an option that cannot be denied as it was following Gainey's departure from the role, but I do feel that Carriere fits in with most of the candidates you've mentioned.


CaseysHabs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Mississauga
Joined: 02.15.2011

Feb 21 @ 12:49 PM ET
The same reason that Montreal should have looked elsewhere after Gainey stepped down. You have to do your due diligence with these hirings or you can set your team back years. Carrière may very well be the best guy, but you HAVE to look elsewhere. For my money, I'd prefer someone like Paul Fenton from Nashville, Jim Benning from Boston, Jim Nill from Detroit or Jarmo Kekäläinen. If bilingualism is a necessary prerequisite (and for the amount of time Gauthier talks to the media it shouldn't be) then it may be worthwhile mining Burke's managerial dream team and name Claude Loiselle GM with Rick Dudley as Ass. GM.

So long as Molson and Co. actually have a dedicated search process, I'm fine. If they interview multiple qualified candidates and decide that Carrière is the best choice then I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Just don't choose him right away without looking at anyone else.

- BleedingHabs


I totally agree. Carriere is a lazy option, and I don't agree with the viewpoint that you need to stick with someone familiar with the organization. If the leadership has been dysfunctional, sometimes an objective external leader to come in and assess the situation is necessary.
madkenny
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 02.27.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:53 PM ET
And you've made this deduction how?

I'm sure you're a great insider and obviously you know what this team really needs.

Im also certain that you didnt throw Roy's name in there simply because thats what the french medias have been doing for the last couple of years. No correlation at all, you are a free spirit.

- PRICEless


We all insiders. Some bloggers out here have better opinions than insiders, so what's the point? Do insiders shop pyjamas with club owners or current GMs?

I don't care about french media and what they say. And btw, they pushing for Roy at coach position, not GM.

This team is too polite, fancy, etc.. their games are like watching cartoons. And when the GM speaks you know why, MONSIEUR GILL, MONSIEUR BOURQUE, MONSIEUR CAMMALLERI, MONSIEUR MONSIEUR MONSIEUR.. Canadiens are CONSTIPATED at ALL LEVELS.

That's why i say bring ROY, a winner at all levels.
CaseysHabs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Mississauga
Joined: 02.15.2011

Feb 21 @ 12:53 PM ET
The MTL fans are looking for new blood to take over the team's reigns. Someone who's in the same position that Gauthier himself was in before he got the job just wont do as far as public opinion goes.

Personally i dont give a damn, i dont even think they should fire Gauthier. The problem this year is with the players rather than management. Management didnt let +/- 20 3rd period leads go to waste.

- PRICEless


I'm not convinced they will fire Gauthier. While he has made some ridiculous moves, he has also made some good moves. Why would they let him handle trade deadline if he was so certainly on his way out? I agree that Carriere was placed on the bench strategically, but I wouldn't doubt this was PG's work, not a plan to hold PG accountable.
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Feb 21 @ 12:53 PM ET
Please no, we need new blood. Gainey, Gaithier, Carriere = the same thing.
- ShafterBenRaide


Hindle says that Carriere has been just brought in after Molson bought the team - if you want new blood - you take the keys away from BG and PG to the Bell Centre and tell them to watch the games from home -

Hindle makes sense - Carriere may be a good fit - and for all the crap the RC has put up with - he deserves a full season behind the bench - bring him back for 2012/13
CaseysHabs
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Mississauga
Joined: 02.15.2011

Feb 21 @ 12:55 PM ET
We all insiders. Some bloggers out here have better opinions than insiders, so what's the point? Do insiders shop pyjamas with club owners or current GMs?

I don't care about french media and what they say. And btw, they pushing for Roy at coach position, not GM.

This team is too polite, fancy, etc.. their games are like watching cartoons. And when the GM speaks you know why, MONSIEUR GILL, MONSIEUR BOURQUE, MONSIEUR CAMMALLERI, MONSIEUR MONSIEUR MONSIEUR.. Canadiens are CONSTIPATED at ALL LEVELS.

That's why i say bring ROY, a winner at all levels.

- madkenny


A winner at all levels, eh? Did you know they use sticks and a puck to play hockey?

Roy has no clue about the business that is running a hockey franchise. He would be a hot-headed one-man-show and run that team into the ground before his first performance evaluation.
madkenny
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 02.27.2008

Feb 21 @ 1:02 PM ET
A winner at all levels, eh? Did you know they use sticks and a puck to play hockey?

Roy has no clue about the business that is running a hockey franchise. He would be a hot-headed one-man-show and run that team into the ground before his first performance evaluation.

- CaseysHabs


Yeah, that's what this team needs, a 1-man show, not the media running the show and having 23 targets + the coach + the GM + the owner. Roy is gonna shift the attention towards him.

And i think you have no clue about what Roy has done in junior hockey and the amount of experience he gained running the Quebec Remparts.
pugnacious.serf
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.18.2008

Feb 21 @ 1:02 PM ET
The same reason that Montreal should have looked elsewhere after Gainey stepped down. You have to do your due diligence with these hirings or you can set your team back years. Carrière may very well be the best guy, but you HAVE to look elsewhere. For my money, I'd prefer someone like Paul Fenton from Nashville, Jim Benning from Boston, Jim Nill from Detroit or Jarmo Kekäläinen. If bilingualism is a necessary prerequisite (and for the amount of time Gauthier talks to the media it shouldn't be) then it may be worthwhile mining Burke's managerial dream team and name Claude Loiselle GM with Rick Dudley as Ass. GM.

So long as Molson and Co. actually have a dedicated search process, I'm fine. If they interview multiple qualified candidates and decide that Carrière is the best choice then I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Just don't choose him right away without looking at anyone else.

- BleedingHabs



Take a page out of Ottawa's playbook, guys that work i n Detroit (Murray and MacLean) both have learned lots from that WINNING organization... Go Nill!

This whole affirmative action thing for coaches and GM's in Montreal is silly. Its not the 50's anymore! Pick a guy that will make the team better, english, french or not.
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