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IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Feb 5 @ 9:58 AM ET
Ian Esplen: KB, You Know You Love Him KB, You Know You Love Him
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Feb 5 @ 10:17 AM ET
Regarless of how Bitz does Weise should be out of a job.

It makes no sense to trade CS before the playoffs to TB for Malone and a 1 st .They can do that after the playoffs if they want.Malone won't save this team.

Schneids for a top 6 impact player yes do now but not Malone.
Conflict076
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Atheist, QC
Joined: 02.19.2009

Feb 5 @ 10:20 AM ET
Regarless of how Bitz does Weise should be out of a job.

It makes no sense to trade CS before the playoffs to TB for Malone and a 1 st .They can do that after the playoffs if they want.Malone won't save this team.

Schneids for a top 6 impact player yes do now but not Malone.

- vancouverdawg


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vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Feb 5 @ 10:31 AM ET
go giants
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Feb 5 @ 10:36 AM ET
I really hope Duco replaces Weise in the playoffs .He has more energy and makes things happen. Weise thinks he is actually a player and lost sight of what he is suppose to bring ,almost like Hansen has.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 5 @ 10:37 AM ET
Did I hear Kipper say the Schneids could fetch a top 6 pick in this year's draft? That would be one of:

Yakupov
Dumba
Murray
Forsberg
Galchenyuk
Grigorenko

That's some seriously good talant. Scary good. I would do that trade in a second. Hell, could you create a package that would wrestle the 1st overall away from Columbus? Does Columbus really need another top prospect that they can then grind into the ground?
K-Bomb
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 12.16.2006

Feb 5 @ 10:46 AM ET
In November Vancouver had 54% of the corsi events and 58% in December.

In January it fell to 46% and so far in February it's even worse.

Vancouver's is winning but has playing very poorly for weeks now. If they keep this up, it's only a matter of time before they start losing, alot.

Something's up with the Sedins. Now that they went to the all-star game, they will have travelled across 3 time zones 10 times before the end of the year. Players on Boston, NJ, NYI, Fla, etc will have done it twice. Inequities in travel are often hard to overcome.
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Feb 5 @ 10:49 AM ET
Did I hear Kipper say the Schneids could fetch a top 6 pick in this year's draft? That would be one of:

Yakupov
Dumba
Murray
Forsberg
Galchenyuk
Grigorenko

That's some seriously good talant. Scary good. I would do that trade in a second. Hell, could you create a package that would wrestle the 1st overall away from Columbus? Does Columbus really need another top prospect that they can then grind into the ground?

- bloatedmosquito

So Schneider Jensen Schroeder for Johansen Sanford and a 1 st
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 5 @ 10:57 AM ET
So Schneider Jensen Schroeder for Johansen Sanford and a 1 st
- vancouverdawg


Columbus needs NHL quality players now. No more potential. So Jensen and Schroeder just won't cut it. I think you would need to add a roster player or two.

EDIT: you look different
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Feb 5 @ 11:03 AM ET
Columbus needs NHL quality players now. No more potential. So Jensen and Schroeder just won't cut it. I think you would need to add a roster player or two.

EDIT: you look different

- bloatedmosquito

As do you.I am incognito

CBJ is giving up prospects so I feel so should we.I really don't trust Russian prospects so I have no problem walking away from them.
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Feb 5 @ 11:31 AM ET
As do you.I am incognito

CBJ is giving up prospects so I feel so should we.I really don't trust Russian prospects so I have no problem walking away from them.

- vancouverdawg


I don't feel the trade is a step forward, more sideways.
Would you do Schneider and Raymond for Nash? I know there would have to be cap movement as well (Ballard and Malhotra for cheap d)
I would be fine trying to win now and giving up future. It's been 40 years, I am tied of no cup.
jakenewton
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Leaf fans still waiting for a , BC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Feb 5 @ 11:33 AM ET
So Schneider Jensen Schroeder for Johansen Sanford and a 1 st
- vancouverdawg



Cbj wouldn't trade johansen for Sid
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Feb 5 @ 11:48 AM ET
I don't feel the trade is a step forward, more sideways.
Would you do Schneider and Raymond for Nash? I know there would have to be cap movement as well (Ballard and Malhotra for cheap d)
I would be fine trying to win now and giving up future. It's been 40 years, I am tied of no cup.

- immature_male

If I could trade Raymond Ballard and Manny as salary dumps (Even though Ballard has been very good as of late ) I would.I am not a Nash fan ,but he would be a huge improvement over Raymond for this year.Iwould trade him again in the offseson for a top D like Weber but I can see using him for this year.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 5 @ 12:28 PM ET
I don't feel the trade is a step forward, more sideways.
Would you do Schneider and Raymond for Nash? I know there would have to be cap movement as well (Ballard and Malhotra for cheap d)
I would be fine trying to win now and giving up future. It's been 40 years, I am tied of no cup.

- immature_male


I think Nash is too expensive and would throw off the team cap balance. Tough to justify 7.8M for a 65pt player (yes, he will get more in VAN) when we have 100pt players (Sedins) are on 6.1M and 75pt Selke winners (Kesler) on 5M.

I'd love to see us send Schneider + Raymond for Johanson + 1st but it's unlikely since Johnason is their future #1 center (and we have too many C).
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 5 @ 1:01 PM ET
Malone,Perry,Nash,Carter?

All BS, seeing as how we are talking about positions we don't really need how about Coho-Shneids and a 1st for Carey Price


Anyone else notice the fact that we need defense, BADLY.
Not to mention the fact that we would have to ship Ballard out for one of these forwards, thus putting us further in the hole. Anyone remember what happened in the SCF when we lost Hamhuis?

Come on people......
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Feb 5 @ 1:10 PM ET
Malone,Perry,Nash,Carter?

All BS, seeing as how we are talking about positions we don't really need how about Coho-Shneids and a 1st for Carey Price


Anyone else notice the fact that we need defense, BADLY.
Not to mention the fact that we would have to ship Ballard out for one of these forwards, thus putting us further in the hole. Anyone remember what happened in the SCF when we lost Hamhuis?

Come on people......

- Whiskey-Tango

History shows that our Scoring disappears in the playoffs. We need toughness and our D is not Cup worthy.We need to address 3 issues not 1 . Do we build over the yers or do we get the piececs?
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 5 @ 1:13 PM ET
Neat story from yesterdays game. My cousin and I were out watching the game. I had my canucks jersey and hat on and him his avalanache. A lady came up and asked him how long he has been a colorado fan. He said about 15 yrs, back to Sakic and Forsberg etc. She asked him if he liked O'Reilly. He said yeah, actually have a jersey of him. The lady smiled and handed him a signed rookie card of him. Said well I'm Ryans mom, if you want that jersey signed I can give you his contact info.
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 5 @ 1:30 PM ET
Malone,Perry,Nash,Carter?

All BS, seeing as how we are talking about positions we don't really need how about Coho-Shneids and a 1st for Carey Price


Anyone else notice the fact that we need defense, BADLY.
Not to mention the fact that we would have to ship Ballard out for one of these forwards, thus putting us further in the hole. Anyone remember what happened in the SCF when we lost Hamhuis?

Come on people......

- Whiskey-Tango

Kubina or Aucoin. Aucoin is probably going to be cheaper and is contract is cheaper. The fact that gthey r very similer players makes Aucoin a better fit imho.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Feb 5 @ 1:42 PM ET
History shows that our Scoring disappears in the playoffs. We need toughness and our D is not Cup worthy.We need to address 3 issues not 1 . Do we build over the yers or do we get the piececs?
- vancouverdawg


History shows that we won the first two games( by 1 goal or 5 makes no difference). Then we lost Hamhuis, which resulted in our forwards losing faith in the D and stressing over defensive coverage, not goal scoring. If we have a sound defense it allows our forwards to actually play their positions. You can add all the superstar forwards you want but if they cant play in the offensive zone then whats the point. Defense wins championships, pure and simple. These elementary
star forward proposals are counter-productive to our needs and wants.

If you want a cup start talking about defense man.
vancouverdawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.06.2008

Feb 5 @ 1:48 PM ET
History shows that we won the first two games( by 1 goal or 5 makes no difference). Then we lost Hamhuis, which resulted in our forwards losing faith in the D and stressing over defensive coverage, not goal scoring. If we have a sound defense it allows our forwards to actually play their positions. You can add all the superstar forwards you want but if they cant play in the offensive zone then whats the point. Defense wins championships, pure and simple. These elementary
star forward proposals are counter-productive to our needs and wants.

If you want a cup start talking about defense man.

- Whiskey-Tango

Your turning point was Hamhuis mine was when Rome was suspended . That hit turned it into an alley brawl after that.No toughness the Bruins had their way with us.We won 1 out of 5 games after that point.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Feb 5 @ 1:54 PM ET
History shows that we won the first two games( by 1 goal or 5 makes no difference). Then we lost Hamhuis, which resulted in our forwards losing faith in the D and stressing over defensive coverage, not goal scoring. If we have a sound defense it allows our forwards to actually play their positions. You can add all the superstar forwards you want but if they cant play in the offensive zone then whats the point. Defense wins championships, pure and simple. These elementary
star forward proposals are counter-productive to our needs and wants.

If you want a cup start talking about defense man.

- Whiskey-Tango


I'll take option C for this debate... This is about coaching. AV & Bowness change the team's approach from assertive to reactionary for no reason when things are already clicking as is... They did it in the Chicago series and again in the Boston series.

They also started playing pressbox roulette with our d-men even though a toddler could tell you that a) Bieksa and Ballard can't be on the same pairing, b) Ballard and Tanev should have stayed together, c) AHLberts and Tanev playing together while Ballard sits is just RIDICULOUS. Our D lost all chemistry, organization and momentum... And our Offense suffered for it because our 5 on 5 offense is based on fluid transition.

Also, when you don't control the play (reactionary/passive hockey), you won't be drawing many penalties. If the Canucks want to wonder why the calls disappear at certain times, they need only look in the mirror.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Feb 5 @ 1:58 PM ET
I think Nash is too expensive and would throw off the team cap balance. Tough to justify 7.8M for a 65pt player (yes, he will get more in VAN) when we have 100pt players (Sedins) are on 6.1M and 75pt Selke winners (Kesler) on 5M.

I'd love to see us send Schneider + Raymond for Johanson + 1st but it's unlikely since Johnason is their future #1 center (and we have too many C).

- AlexF


Rick Nash has become underrated by a lot of people. He's all around great two way player. He's very good on the pk. He would look great in a Canucks uniform. Him with the Sedins would be dominating and he'd look good with Kesler and Booth. That would be a lot to handle. How many 6'4 players in the league put up consistent 30 goal season that can skate like the way he does. He's never had a true great centerman and the Canucks have three.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Feb 5 @ 2:01 PM ET
Rick Nash has become underrated by a lot of people. He's all around great two way player. He's very good on the pk. He would look great in a Canucks uniform. Him with the Sedins would be dominating and he'd look good with Kesler and Booth. That would be a lot to handle. How many 6'4 players in the league put up consistent 30 goal season that can skate like the way he does. He's never had a true great centerman and the Canucks have three.
- Boinker


There's no such thing as underrating a player who makes $7.8 per. No place on this team for a guy like that. Burrows puts up Nash stats for $5.8 million less.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Feb 5 @ 2:02 PM ET
Rick Nash has become underrated by a lot of people. He's all around great two way player. He's very good on the pk. He would look great in a Canucks uniform. Him with the Sedins would be dominating and he'd look good with Kesler and Booth. That would be a lot to handle. How many 6'4 players in the league put up consistent 30 goal season that can skate like the way he does. He's never had a true great centerman and the Canucks have three.
- Boinker


I'd take Morrow over Nash as a fit on this team.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Feb 5 @ 2:16 PM ET
Burrows puts up Nash stats for $5.8 million less.
- DrChristianTroy


Could he do it without the twins,kes,edler,hammer,juice,etc...?
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