Dee Karl: No Time to Dwell: Isles @ Caps The day after the disappointment.

Dee Karl: No Time to Dwell: Isles @ Caps
The day after the disappointment.
- Dee Karl

Garth Snow blows, doing a terrible job as GM. Once again has sat on his hands instead of doing his job(being a GM and all!) and has let another season go to waste. Can't wait to hear Snow's next interview(if he does one), problem is no one will be listening probably at this point? Wang is the antichrist and I hate even reading about this team at this point!!! How a team can come out flat knowingly when they are in the shape they are boggles the mind! Good job Capuano getting your team ready! You and YOUR team are a disgrace in every sense of the word... Have a great day everyone!

What a miserable f-ing start. This B.S. of giving up goals on the first shot of a game has to stop. 25% of the games played this year the Isles have given up a goal on the first f-ing shot. Yesterday, the first two shots went in. That is inexcusable and a good reason why this team is in last place and was never truly in the game yesterday.

This team will be in real trouble if they move Tavares or he decides he wants out..... Tavares is the only reason I watch these games. The rick Nash to Columbus to comparison is making me worry.... He such a good talent wasting away in Columbus and even worse for Jeff Carter too!

Garth Snow blows, doing a terrible job as GM. Once again has sat on his hands instead of doing his job(being a GM and all!) and has let another season go to waste. Can't wait to hear Snow's next interview(if he does one), problem is no one will be listening probably at this point? Wang is the antichrist and I hate even reading about this team at this point!!! How a team can come out flat knowingly when they are in the shape they are boggles the mind! Good job Capuano getting your team ready! You and YOUR team are a disgrace in every sense of the word... Have a great day everyone!
- Cptmjl

If I said it once I will say it a hundred times JAck Capuano is NO NHL COACH!! Not having your team ready is solely on the coach and then he blames the turnovers to cover up for not getting them ready. Benching Poulin for over a week and then expecting him to do awesome is un heard of. The guy posted like 3 straight shutouts so we bring him up here bench him and then throw him in cold so he can lose confidence, ah now that is what I call coaching.

As for tonight Washington is rolling and they will steam roll right over us in an easy win. Tavares hopefully gets a point as that is the only bright spot for this team right now, and playoffs???? No way is that even an option at this point. Trade who you can and get rid of the coach please. I dont care if we keep hiring and firing people. We are being laughed at any way

FAIL FOR NAIL!

I'm usually the one who preaches continuity and whatnot in lobbying to keep Cappy in place, but after watching yesterday, and taking stock on the entire season, I have to say the number one priority (aside from getting a new f-ing arena) has to be getting a top-tier coach. Its more important than getting top-tier players at this point.

Cappy sucks. I'm not going to blame him for all the losing this year, God knows the players shoulder a considerable amount of the blame for their consistent no-shows this season, but Cappy's decision-making is awful. His lineups are atrocious. I don't understand how anyone can think it is a good idea to have Rolston, a 38-year old bum, on either the second or third line and on the PP while the team's top prospect, Nino, is wallowing away on the 4th line getting 5 minutes/game playing with AHL-level trash like Wallace, Pandolfo and Reasoner. How can anyone think its a good idea to even dress Wallace when a kid like Ullstrom is ready to play?

This team comes out flat way too often. Giving up a goal on the first shot of a game is indicative of a team not ready to play that day. That's happened 10 times to the Isles this season and the season is only half over. It is also bad when players imply that there is no "structure" on the team.

Look at Nashville. One coach over the past 12 years. Because of it, there's structure and continuity in that organization and they are consistently competitive. The Isles have had about 8 coaches in that same time. As a result, they only compete for top pick in the draft during most seasons. Garth has to find an NHL-caliber coach, with a proven track record of success at the NHL level, preferably one with a track record of success with young players. They need to identify that guy and overwhelm him with a contract offer to get him to come to Long Island. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking Michael Therrien or Andy Murray.

I'm usually the one who preaches continuity and whatnot in lobbying to keep Cappy in place, but after watching yesterday, and taking stock on the entire season, I have to say the number one priority (aside from getting a new f-ing arena) has to be getting a top-tier coach. Its more important than getting top-tier players at this point.

Cappy sucks. I'm not going to blame him for all the losing this year, God knows the players shoulder a considerable amount of the blame for their consistent no-shows this season, but Cappy's decision-making is awful. His lineups are atrocious. I don't understand how anyone can think it is a good idea to have Rolston, a 38-year old bum, on either the second or third line and on the PP while the team's top prospect, Nino, is wallowing away on the 4th line getting 5 minutes/game playing with AHL-level trash like Wallace, Pandolfo and Reasoner. How can anyone think its a good idea to even dress Wallace when a kid like Ullstrom is ready to play?

This team comes out flat way too often. Giving up a goal on the first shot of a game is indicative of a team not ready to play that day. That's happened 10 times to the Isles this season and the season is only half over. It is also bad when players imply that there is no "structure" on the team.

Look at Nashville. One coach over the past 12 years. Because of it, there's structure and continuity in that organization and they are consistently competitive. The Isles have had about 8 in that time. As a result, they only compete for top pick in the draft during most seasons. Garth has to find an NHL-caliber coach, with a proven track record of success at the NHL level, preferably one with a track record of success with young players. They need to identify that guy and overwhelm him with a contract offer to get him to come to Long Island. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking Michael Therrien or Andy Murray.
- Jethro09

Amen Jethro I have been preaching this all year just to get reemed so I agree with everything you said. He wil lnever be a NHL coach and no matter what people think on here if oyu put a good coach in place they can coach any players and make them at least competitive and prepared for a game

I'm usually the one who preaches continuity and whatnot in lobbying to keep Cappy in place, but after watching yesterday, and taking stock on the entire season, I have to say the number one priority (aside from getting a new f-ing arena) has to be getting a top-tier coach. Its more important than getting top-tier players at this point.

Cappy sucks. I'm not going to blame him for all the losing this year, God knows the players shoulder a considerable amount of the blame for their consistent no-shows this season, but Cappy's decision-making is awful. His lineups are atrocious. I don't understand how anyone can think it is a good idea to have Rolston, a 38-year old bum, on either the second or third line and on the PP while the team's top prospect, Nino, is wallowing away on the 4th line getting 5 minutes/game playing with AHL-level trash like Wallace, Pandolfo and Reasoner. How can anyone think its a good idea to even dress Wallace when a kid like Ullstrom is ready to play?

This team comes out flat way too often. Giving up a goal on the first shot of a game is indicative of a team not ready to play that day. That's happened 10 times to the Isles this season and the season is only half over. It is also bad when players imply that there is no "structure" on the team.

Look at Nashville. One coach over the past 12 years. Because of it, there's structure and continuity in that organization and they are consistently competitive. The Isles have had about 8 coaches in that same time. As a result, they only compete for top pick in the draft during most seasons. Garth has to find an NHL-caliber coach, with a proven track record of success at the NHL level, preferably one with a track record of success with young players. They need to identify that guy and overwhelm him with a contract offer to get him to come to Long Island. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking Michael Therrien or Andy Murray.
- Jethro09

I disagree with this statement. I think structure is driven from the GM level. Look at NJ. I think we've had 26 coaches in the past 12 years, and we've been consistently competitive. If Snow can create an identity for this team, he can hand pick the coaches he feels will best implement his structure, similar to the way Lamoriello has managed the Devils.

I'm usually the one who preaches continuity and whatnot in lobbying to keep Cappy in place, but after watching yesterday, and taking stock on the entire season, I have to say the number one priority (aside from getting a new f-ing arena) has to be getting a top-tier coach. Its more important than getting top-tier players at this point.

Cappy sucks. I'm not going to blame him for all the losing this year, God knows the players shoulder a considerable amount of the blame for their consistent no-shows this season, but Cappy's decision-making is awful. His lineups are atrocious. I don't understand how anyone can think it is a good idea to have Rolston, a 38-year old bum, on either the second or third line and on the PP while the team's top prospect, Nino, is wallowing away on the 4th line getting 5 minutes/game playing with AHL-level trash like Wallace, Pandolfo and Reasoner. How can anyone think its a good idea to even dress Wallace when a kid like Ullstrom is ready to play?

This team comes out flat way too often. Giving up a goal on the first shot of a game is indicative of a team not ready to play that day. That's happened 10 times to the Isles this season and the season is only half over. It is also bad when players imply that there is no "structure" on the team.

Look at Nashville. One coach over the past 12 years. Because of it, there's structure and continuity in that organization and they are consistently competitive. The Isles have had about 8 coaches in that same time. As a result, they only compete for top pick in the draft during most seasons. Garth has to find an NHL-caliber coach, with a proven track record of success at the NHL level, preferably one with a track record of success with young players. They need to identify that guy and overwhelm him with a contract offer to get him to come to Long Island. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking Michael Therrien or Andy Murray.
- Jethro09

good post ..However....Any coach will look good if you surround him with good talent. Bruce B isn't exactly transforming the ducks into a competitive club.
that being said there is NO excuse for this team to come out flat against any opponent. the level of play against Philly and Buffalo is what is needed
to continue to be competitive, and be regarded as an improving hockey team.

Is coming out flat a product of bad coaching or non-caring players?

I disagree with this statement. I think structure is driven from the GM level. Look at NJ. I think we've had 26 coaches in the past 12 years, and we've been consistently competitive. If Snow can create an identity for this team, he can hand pick the coaches he feels will best implement his structure, similar to the way Lamoriello has managed the Devils.
- WayneZ

It all ties in together. NJ has been competitive because its a veteran team and Lou only hires coaches who share a particular philosophy, HIS philosophy. Snow's hires have been all over the chart. Different systems, different terminology. That doesn't work with kids, especially when its changing every two years. Cappy does things a lot differently than Gordon did them. Gordon did things much differently than Nolan did them.

Yes, stability in a GM is important, but it has to be ther right GM. Snow has not proven that he's the right pick. His teams have finished in the bottom five the past five years and he hasn't been able to sign one significant UFA since Streit was signed. His personnel decisions this past summer were atrocious. How can Snow create an identity for this team when he himself is so inconsistent in his hirings? Jeez, I can't even tell you what Snow's philosophy for how the team should play is.

It all ties in together. NJ has been competitive because its a veteran team and Lou only hires coaches who share a particular philosophy, HIS philosophy. Snow's hires have been all over the chart. Different systems, different terminology. That doesn't work with kids, especially when its changing every two years. Cappy does things a lot differently than Gordon did them. Gordon did things much differently than Nolan did them.

Yes, stability in a GM is important, but it has to be ther right GM. Snow has not proven that he's the right pick. His teams have finished in the bottom five the past five years and he hasn't been able to sign one significant UFA since Streit was signed. His personnel decisions this past summer were atrocious. How can Snow create an identity for this team when he himself is so inconsistent in his hirings? Jeez, I can't even tell you what Snow's philosophy for how the team should play is.
- Jethro09

I agree that it is the perfect storm of issues. Organizational instability, unable to attract top tier UFAs, coaching carousel, crumbling arena, etc. I think Snow may need to be the one to go though. I think he has done a fair job, both in trades and in drafting, but he doesn't seem to be very effective from October through April. I think if the Isles had a strong GM, he could implement a winning culture and a system, and its not like the Isles don't have a ton of young talent. They are only a half season removed from dominating for a 42 game stretch.

good post ..However....Any coach will look good if you surround him with good talent. Bruce B isn't exactly transforming the ducks into a competitive club.
that being said there is NO excuse for this team to come out flat against any opponent. the level of play against Philly and Buffalo is what is needed
to continue to be competitive, and be regarded as an improving hockey team.

Is coming out flat a product of bad coaching or non-caring players?
- Mike C

I don't think the team as a whole "doesn't care". And I understand that teams are going to lay eggs now and then. Problem with the Isles is that they lay an egg one in every three games. They have been scored on in the first few minutes of a game on the game's first shot against 10 times already. The battle level of many guys on the roster is visually lacking. While I think the players are accountable for no-shows, its also on the coach to ensure that slow starts are kept to a minimum. Cappy hasn't done that.

Cappy's line combos have also been terrible and counter-productive to both this team playing well now and developing its core players for the future. The line combos are on the coach. Its his decision to give Rolston second and third-line minutes and PP time while keeping Nino on the fourth line flanked by s**t and wasting an entire year of his development.

I disagree with this statement. I think structure is driven from the GM level. Look at NJ. I think we've had 26 coaches in the past 12 years, and we've been consistently competitive. If Snow can create an identity for this team, he can hand pick the coaches he feels will best implement his structure, similar to the way Lamoriello has managed the Devils.
- WayneZ

Structure in no way = N.Y. Islanders

I agree that it is the perfect storm of issues. Organizational instability, unable to attract top tier UFAs, coaching carousel, crumbling arena, etc. I think Snow may need to be the one to go though. I think he has done a fair job, both in trades and in drafting, but he doesn't seem to be very effective from October through April. I think if the Isles had a strong GM, he could implement a winning culture and a system, and its not like the Isles don't have a ton of young talent. They are only a half season removed from dominating for a 42 game stretch.
- WayneZ

Wayne I usually love your comments but Snow has done basically nothing here. Has not got us a real coach since he has been on the job never trades ever unless it is for a high draft pick. He releases Blake Comeau and thinks that was the answer to the season. I am sorry Wangs puppet needs to go and unless there are changes at the top this team will always be a bottom feeder team for years to come. I just hope they right the boat fast before JT wakes up and is like what the hell was I smoking??

It all ties in together. NJ has been competitive because its a veteran team and Lou only hires coaches who share a particular philosophy, HIS philosophy. Snow's hires have been all over the chart. Different systems, different terminology. That doesn't work with kids, especially when its changing every two years. Cappy does things a lot differently than Gordon did them. Gordon did things much differently than Nolan did them.

Yes, stability in a GM is important, but it has to be ther right GM. Snow has not proven that he's the right pick. His teams have finished in the bottom five the past five years and he hasn't been able to sign one significant UFA since Streit was signed. His personnel decisions this past summer were atrocious. How can Snow create an identity for this team when he himself is so inconsistent in his hirings? Jeez, I can't even tell you what Snow's philosophy for how the team should play is.
- Jethro09

That's what I was thinking about yesterday. What kind of team are the Isles supposed to be? They're not a physical team and are way too inconsistent to be that hard working group they were under Nolan. They're definitely not a team that can rely on strong defense and goaltending and work from there. They're not a team that sticks to a rigid system like they were under Gordon (thankfully). They were billed as a high-flying offensive team, but they're bottom-five in goals/game. There is no identity. They're just...that team with Tavares that sometimes randomly finds a way to click.

I agree that it is the perfect storm of issues. Organizational instability, unable to attract top tier UFAs, coaching carousel, crumbling arena, etc. I think Snow may need to be the one to go though. I think he has done a fair job, both in trades and in drafting, but he doesn't seem to be very effective from October through April. I think if the Isles had a strong GM, he could implement a winning culture and a system, and its not like the Isles don't have a ton of young talent. They are only a half season removed from dominating for a 42 game stretch.
- WayneZ

Its been the #1 issue with the Isles since Milbury was named GM: credibility. The Isles have none and haven't had any since the very early 90's when Torrey was still running things and Arbour coached the team. A lot of the lack of credibility is due to the multiple and terrible owners this team has had since Pickett sold to the Gang of Four but a lot also stems from the terrible GMs and 15 coaches they've had in that time as well.

The organization looks rudderless. Has looked that way for almost two decades. Wang's failure to bring in a true hockeyman with a solid reputation for winning and success and to opt for Snow and/or stay with Milbury as long as he did has rendered this team a laughingstock. That's why the most important thing they do now, aside from getting a new arena, is getting an executive or at least a coach in here that bring with him some credibility.

Its been the #1 issue with the Isles since Milbury was named GM: credibility. The Isles have none and haven't had any since the very early 90's when Torrey was still running things and Arbour coached the team. A lot of the lack of credibility is due to the multiple and terrible owners this team has had since Pickett sold to the Gang of Four but a lot also stems from the terrible GMs and 15 coaches they've had in that time as well.

The organization looks rudderless. Has looked that way for almost two decades. Wang's failure to bring in a true hockeyman with a solid reputation for winning and success and to opt for Snow and/or stay with Milbury as long as he did has rendered this team a laughingstock. That's why the most important thing they do now, aside from getting a new arena, is getting an executive or at least a coach in here that bring with him some credibility.
- Jethro09

Problem is with other coaches do they want to come here and deal with the Wang and Snow show? What if they make a coaching decision that Wang does not like? I think a lot of coaches wont come here not because of the team itself cause they do have talent a coach can work with but becuase of Wang

Problem is with other coaches do they want to come here and deal with the Wang and Snow show? What if they make a coaching decision that Wang does not like? I think a lot of coaches wont come here not because of the team itself cause they do have talent a coach can work with but becuase of Wang
- kasperrko

Therrien and Murray have been out of the game for a bit. They may not have the luxury of being too choosy if they want to get back into the NHL. That, coupled with a healthy salary may get an established coach to come to Long Island and roll the dice on dealing with the sideshow that is Wang/Snow. Point is, the longer they stay with Cappy or keep going to the AHL for their head coaches, the less likely they are to get out of this perpetual rut of changing coaches every two years and starting all over again.

Therrien and Murray have been out of the game for a bit. They may not have the luxury of being too choosy if they want to get back into the NHL. That, coupled with a healthy salary may get an established coach to come to Long Island and roll the dice on dealing with the sideshow that is Wang/Snow. Point is, the longer they stay with Cappy or keep going to the AHL for their head coaches, the less likely they are to get out of this perpetual rut of changing coaches every two years and starting all over again.
- Jethro09

Agreed. This will nothing b ut benefit from a coach with real NHl experience. I cant help but think to imagine where we would be with a coach like that cause I think seriously that is what this team needs the most right now. A different system might work as well and if you do get a coach who has NHL experience they always find ways to get a couple of guys they coached before. When you go to the AHL these guys dont know anyone in the NHL and so you end up with players from the aHL to round out your team and we have seen that here for a few years

went to the game yesterday-- what a (frank)ing waste of money.... didnt i ask for someone to kick me in the nuts if think of going to the game?!?!?

the defense was beyond atrocious and rolston has got to go- i was very tempted to jump over the boards and cut him with his own skate.


i wanted to start booing him everytime he touched the puck-- of course he couldnt even do that-- the guy was invisible for the last 15 minutes-- legit didnt touch the puck once...its a 5 on 4 (at least) every time he is on the (frank)ing ice!!! get him outta here!!!!

went to the game yesterday-- what a (frank)ing waste of money.... didnt i ask for someone to kick me in the nuts if think of going to the game?!?!?

the defense was beyond atrocious and rolston has got to go- i was very tempted to jump over the boards and cut him with his own skate.


i wanted to start booing him everytime he touched the puck-- of course he couldnt even do that-- the guy was invisible for the last 15 minutes-- legit didnt touch the puck once...its a 5 on 4 (at least) every time he is on the (frank)ing ice!!! get him outta here!!!!
- LetsGoIsles

Agreed. I dont get it how we the fans can see what is going on but management sits there thinking everything is ducky. He is taking a spot away from guys like Ullstrom who should be here playing. He was awesome before he got hurt.

I don't think the team as a whole "doesn't care". And I understand that teams are going to lay eggs now and then. Problem with the Isles is that they lay an egg one in every three games. They have been scored on in the first few minutes of a game on the game's first shot against 10 times already. The battle level of many guys on the roster is visually lacking. While I think the players are accountable for no-shows, its also on the coach to ensure that slow starts are kept to a minimum. Cappy hasn't done that.

Cappy's line combos have also been terrible and counter-productive to both this team playing well now and developing its core players for the future. The line combos are on the coach. Its his decision to give Rolston second and third-line minutes and PP time while keeping Nino on the fourth line flanked by s**t and wasting an entire year of his development.
- Jethro09

You are correct

Problem is with other coaches do they want to come here and deal with the Wang and Snow show? What if they make a coaching decision that Wang does not like? I think a lot of coaches wont come here not because of the team itself cause they do have talent a coach can work with but becuase of Wang
- kasperrko

Exactly. I don't think an established coach wants to deal with micromanaging from Wang. They will want control to implement a game plan best suited for the roster. I don't think Wang/Snow allow the coaches that much control. I get the feeling that Snow wants the team to play a total finesse game with no physical presence. Any established coach would tell him the team won't win that way.

A shake up is required.

Start with Wanger, and wirk your way down.