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Jacob Billington
Location: Westville, NS
Joined: 10.16.2021

Jul 24 @ 11:52 AM ET
Jacob Billington: Jets Need to Make Decisions on Defense; Mailbag Incoming
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jul 25 @ 9:44 AM ET
The Jets should have been trying to get rid off some defensemen last year. Guys like Pionk, Dillon, Shmidt, Stanley and Demelo should be sold off to the highest bidders. Its sad that this franchise says its "draft and develop" and yet we have lost Gawanke and Kovecevic for essentially nothing.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jul 25 @ 10:32 AM ET
The Jets should have been trying to get rid off some defensemen last year. Guys like Pionk, Dillon, Shmidt, Stanley and Demelo should be sold off to the highest bidders. Its sad that this franchise says its "draft and develop" and yet we have lost Gawanke and Kovecevic for essentially nothing.
- TheUltimateJet

I agree with we should've traded some D last year but lets be honest. Gawanke is NOT and NHL D and never will be and even Kovacevik is the 7/8 D on a bottom three team in Montreal.
jjonah
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.25.2013

Jul 25 @ 11:15 AM ET
Interesting stats

Kovacevic played over 15mins a game
Was a +3 on a horrible team
Even chipped in 15 points

6’5” RHD

Not saying he’s a sure thing but those are numbers that say NHL player
Old Flopper
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.06.2020

Jul 25 @ 11:37 AM ET
Interesting stats

Kovacevic played over 15mins a game
Was a +3 on a horrible team
Even chipped in 15 points

6’5” RHD

Not saying he’s a sure thing but those are numbers that say NHL player

- jjonah



Agreed.
Old Flopper
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.06.2020

Jul 25 @ 11:41 AM ET
The Jets should have been trying to get rid off some defensemen last year. Guys like Pionk, Dillon, Shmidt, Stanley and Demelo should be sold off to the highest bidders. Its sad that this franchise says its "draft and develop" and yet we have lost Gawanke and Kovecevic for essentially nothing.
- TheUltimateJet


I would think that Schmidt, Pionk and Stanley should have been moved out, but it seems this franchise likes to keep the bad contracts and play them until contract expiry.

I can live with Demelo and Dillon, but Kovecevic was ahead of Heinola and Stanely imop.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jul 25 @ 11:58 AM ET
I would think that Schmidt, Pionk and Stanley should have been moved out, but it seems this franchise likes to keep the bad contracts and play them until contract expiry.

I can live with Demelo and Dillon, but Kovecevic was ahead of Heinola and Stanely imop.

- Old Flopper


Some wanted to move out 4/6th of our top six d-men. Well, who you going to replace them with - Gawanke, Chisholm, Heinola, and Capobianco? Maybe include Hellebuyck and go for Connor Bedard. You just can't compete with 3-4 rookies on the b-line.

I also think moving Kovacevics was a mistake, but still only 3rd pairing on the Habs who were in the Bedard sweepstakes. Capo needs to go - plus at some point the Jets will move a DeMelo, Dillon (I hope not) or a Schmidt. Some will say Schmidt is untradeable, but we'll see.

See that P. Bergereon has retired. Well "hello" M. Scheifele. No, afraid not, the Bruins have nothing the Jets need (without a no-trade clause). Unless a 3-team deal???
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jul 25 @ 12:22 PM ET
Interesting stats

Kovacevic played over 15mins a game
Was a +3 on a horrible team
Even chipped in 15 points

6’5” RHD

Not saying he’s a sure thing but those are numbers that say NHL player

- jjonah

have to disagree, those numbers really dont say that. you'd be surprised how many D play 15/min a night and still bounce between NHL/AHL. look up Mike Reily for example, much better D than Kovacevik and cant find a place to play
Old Flopper
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 08.06.2020

Jul 25 @ 12:25 PM ET
Some wanted to move out 4/6th of our top six d-men. Well, who you going to replace them with - Gawanke, Chisholm, Heinola, and Capobianco? Maybe include Hellebuyck and go for Connor Bedard. You just can't compete with 3-4 rookies on the b-line.

I also think moving Kovacevics was a mistake, but still only 3rd pairing on the Habs who were in the Bedard sweepstakes. Capo needs to go - plus at some point the Jets will move a DeMelo, Dillon (I hope not) or a Schmidt. Some will say Schmidt is untradeable, but we'll see.

See that P. Bergereon has retired. Well "hello" M. Scheifele. No, afraid not, the Bruins have nothing the Jets need (without a no-trade clause). Unless a 3-team deal???

- grahamzky


True on the bolded text however Boston is apparently waiting on Lindholm to see what happens... then maybe Schief.

Boston have a couple goalies that could replace Helle if another teams steps up for Helle, so there are possibilities.

I forgot to included Capo in my previous post.....
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jul 25 @ 1:50 PM ET
The Jets should have been trying to get rid off some defensemen last year. Guys like Pionk, Dillon, Shmidt, Stanley and Demelo should be sold off to the highest bidders. Its sad that this franchise says its "draft and develop" and yet we have lost Gawanke and Kovecevic for essentially nothing.
- TheUltimateJet



You don't throw away your current mattress until you have a replacement mattress.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jul 25 @ 8:29 PM ET
True on the bolded text however Boston is apparently waiting on Lindholm to see what happens... then maybe Schief.

Boston have a couple goalies that could replace Helle if another teams steps up for Helle, so there are possibilities.

I forgot to included Capo in my previous post.....

- Old Flopper


I want to see Scheifele stay. I am in the minority on this board. I cannot imagine what this team will look like with Lowry as our number 1 center.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jul 26 @ 2:47 PM ET
I want to see Scheifele stay. I am in the minority on this board. I cannot imagine what this team will look like with Lowry as our number 1 center.
- TheUltimateJet


If 55 decides that he wants to stay and wants to play a more complete game, I would be okay with keeping him. The talent is there, the attitude needs adjusting.


grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jul 26 @ 5:01 PM ET
If 55 decides that he wants to stay and wants to play a more complete game, I would be okay with keeping him. The talent is there, the attitude needs adjusting.
- bennythehat


It has long been said that Wheeler and Scheifele were "connected at the hip". It has also been said (even on here) that the culture in the Jets dressing room left a lot to be desired.

Therefore, I want BOTH of "the big dogs" out of there - gone!!! I do not want to see 55 in a Jets jersey again in the near future. No way! Let Morrissey and Lowry lead, get some new blood in there. And if that doesn't work, well ........... take further measures.

I do not want to see the lack of tenacity by the Jets when "the chips are on the table" again!
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jul 26 @ 5:21 PM ET
It has long been said that Wheeler and Scheifele were "connected at the hip". It has also been said (even on here) that the culture in the Jets dressing room left a lot to be desired.

Therefore, I want BOTH of "the big dogs" out of there - gone!!! I do not want to see 55 in a Jets jersey again in the near future. No way! Let Morrissey and Lowry lead, get some new blood in there. And if that doesn't work, well ........... take further measures.

I do not want to see the lack of tenacity by the Jets when "the chips are on the table" again!

- grahamzky


Maybe 55 will be a a different person without 26 around ? Hard to say.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jul 26 @ 9:06 PM ET
It has long been said that Wheeler and Scheifele were "connected at the hip". It has also been said (even on here) that the culture in the Jets dressing room left a lot to be desired.

Therefore, I want BOTH of "the big dogs" out of there - gone!!! I do not want to see 55 in a Jets jersey again in the near future. No way! Let Morrissey and Lowry lead, get some new blood in there. And if that doesn't work, well ........... take further measures.

I do not want to see the lack of tenacity by the Jets when "the chips are on the table" again!

- grahamzky


Whom per se would Lowry and Morrisey have learned their "leadership" skills from?
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jul 26 @ 9:06 PM ET
Maybe 55 will be a a different person without 26 around ? Hard to say.
- bennythehat


This is a great point!
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jul 27 @ 10:00 AM ET
Whom per se would Lowry and Morrisey have learned their "leadership" skills from?
- TheUltimateJet


That's one way to look at it I suppose.

I believe Lowry and Morrissey have had leadership roles since they were teen-agers probably, not just with the Jets. I also believe that just because they wore "A's" when Wheeler wore the "C" and Scheifele an "A", doesn't mean they were disciples of the captain and his side-kick.

Lowry and Morrissey both lead by example, if, as some think, in no other way. Maybe I'm the only one thinking this way, but they play a part of my leadership team going forward.

And we have potential captains, if we believe their press clippings, in McGroarty and Barlow, on the way.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 27 @ 12:32 PM ET
Everyone but Morrissey, DeMelo, Samberg, and Heinola is for sale for me.

Morrissey was a juggernaut, DeMelo can’t be replaced at his cap hit, Samberg was a legit top 4 D last season, and Heinola needs a full time job and paired with Samberg a lot in the past.

Get Chisholm in with Schmidt (too liked in the room to be moved if it costs you), and call it a day.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 27 @ 12:49 PM ET
You don't throw away your current mattress until you have a replacement mattress.
- bennythehat


You do when your current mattress is horribly (Pionk), about to collapse on itself (Dillon), and you have a replacement waiting to be delivered that got rave reviews from everyone else (Heinola)
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jul 27 @ 3:04 PM ET
Whom per se would Lowry and Morrisey have learned their "leadership" skills from?
- TheUltimateJet


MATT HENDRICKS !!! lololol
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jul 27 @ 3:05 PM ET
You do when your current mattress is horribly (Pionk), about to collapse on itself (Dillon), and you have a replacement waiting to be delivered that got rave reviews from everyone else (Heinola)
- Rexypoo


Thank you David Keam.....
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 27 @ 4:28 PM ET
Thank you David Keam.....
- bennythehat


That was a google search
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jul 27 @ 5:07 PM ET
That was a google search
- Rexypoo


I didn't have to Google search David Keam..
(You'll find us !)

2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jul 27 @ 5:40 PM ET
Thank you David Keam.....
- bennythehat

JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jul 27 @ 9:23 PM ET
have to disagree, those numbers really dont say that. you'd be surprised how many D play 15/min a night and still bounce between NHL/AHL. look up Mike Reily for example, much better D than Kovacevik and cant find a place to play
- Ross77


Mike Reilly signed in Florida, Reilly was squeezed out of his spot in Boston by your favorite former Jet Forbort.
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