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Bill Meltzer
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Jun 15 @ 12:21 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Hextall on 2018 Draft
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 15 @ 2:30 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Hextall on 2018 Draft
- bmeltzer

good stuff
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Jun 15 @ 5:27 AM ET
Hextall is still the Coma man, what a moron. Frost better pan out or they gave away a young first line center to get him. Too much orange and black koolaid for the regular on here, haha Hextall just does not match up to my standards, chew on that.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 15 @ 6:31 AM ET
Hextall is still the Coma man, what a moron. Frost better pan out or they gave away a young first line center to get him. Too much orange and black koolaid for the regular on here, haha Hextall just does not match up to my standards, chew on that.
- joegreif17


I'm a pretty harsh Hextall critic myself but it doesn't mean I think he's doing a bad job.

Hextall is entering season five as Flyers GM. One of my issues with him is he makes trades that more so benefit the draft, rather than speeding up the product on the ice. A perfect example is George McFee. McFee build up the Washington Capitals but doesn't get to enjoy that Cup victory because he is now the Las Vegas Golden Knights GM. Maybe Hextall shouldn't be doing his job like he has all the time in the world.

In my opinion the Schenn trade came too soon. You keep Schenn, you have better offensively depth at forward after drafting Nolan Patrick. If Schenn puts up a 70 season here, we could have gotten an even bigger return for him. This isn't me speaking in hindsight, I've always felt this way.

I cannot deny his Hextall's drafting but his decision is hiring Hakstol, the trading for bad contracts for a better future as if he's guaranteed to be around. The unwillingness to spend on depth on the bottom six, or unwillingness to get this team bigger and stronger to fit "the system". It's bothersome to me. Did our five year plan move up to a ten year plan?

I think he's doing a good job. Not a great job.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 6:37 AM ET
Team Negative is up early today. Hmm, finished 3rd in the metro, has one of the deepest prospect pools in the league, has a legit #1 D who is only 21 years old, has a good 1-2 punch center who will be 25 and 20 at the start of next year, holds 2 first round picks in the upcoming draft, and has ample cap space going into this offseason.

Yup, everything is just god awful and Hextall should be shot.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jun 15 @ 6:43 AM ET
Hextall is still the Coma man, what a moron. Frost better pan out or they gave away a young first line center to get him. Too much orange and black koolaid for the regular on here, haha Hextall just does not match up to my standards, chew on that.
- joegreif17


Nothing to chew on because your standards mean exactly nothing when it comes to how the Flyers are built.

Please Scotty Bowman, I mean JoeGrief, tell me what your issue is with that article other than it doesnt talk about the Pens enough.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 15 @ 7:11 AM ET
Think they should probably make both picks. If there's a straight-up sniper in there, so much the better
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 15 @ 7:26 AM ET
Team Negative is up early today. Hmm, finished 3rd in the metro, has one of the deepest prospect pools in the league, has a legit #1 D who is only 21 years old, has a good 1-2 punch center who will be 25 and 20 at the start of next year, holds 2 first round picks in the upcoming draft, and has ample cap space going into this offseason.

Yup, everything is just god awful and Hextall should be shot.

- BiggE



Penguins fans gonna troll.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 7:59 AM ET
Penguins fans gonna troll.
- MBFlyerfan

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 8:01 AM ET
Think they should probably make both picks. If there's a straight-up sniper in there, so much the better
- AllInForFlyers


Pretty much how I feel. The only exception would be if they can deal the 19th pick for a young NHL center with good wheels, the ability to kill penalties effectively and enough skill to center a 3rd line. That's a deal I'd make.

Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 15 @ 8:20 AM ET
Team Negative is up early today. Hmm, finished 3rd in the metro, has one of the deepest prospect pools in the league, has a legit #1 D who is only 21 years old, has a good 1-2 punch center who will be 25 and 20 at the start of next year, holds 2 first round picks in the upcoming draft, and has ample cap space going into this offseason.

Yup, everything is just god awful and Hextall should be shot.

- BiggE


Find it a bit insulting to Team Negative including Team Derp with them.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 15 @ 8:21 AM ET
Bill,

Do you know who asked the very last question ("Shoot first mentality valued a bit less")?

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 15 @ 8:38 AM ET
God that interview was boring.

Love hexy but it’s just brutal
Myfreedomisback
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.07.2018

Jun 15 @ 8:42 AM ET
Team Negative is up early today. Hmm, finished 3rd in the metro, has one of the deepest prospect pools in the league, has a legit #1 D who is only 21 years old, has a good 1-2 punch center who will be 25 and 20 at the start of next year, holds 2 first round picks in the upcoming draft, and has ample cap space going into this offseason.

Yup, everything is just god awful and Hextall should be shot.

- BiggE

I'm gonna stay with team positive here!! It's way too good of a time to be a flyers fan!! I can't wait for this upcoming season
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 15 @ 8:42 AM ET
God that interview was boring.

Love hexy but it’s just brutal

- Just5


Agreed. I was hoping that he'd tell us his full draft priority list so that other teams would be able to ransom him easily.

Also was hoping that he'd either rip this class for being below-average or praise its depth and let us know if he thought last year was below par...you know, morale-boosting stuff for the teenage players you picked/will pick.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 15 @ 8:44 AM ET
Pretty much how I feel. The only exception would be if they can deal the 19th pick for a young NHL center with good wheels, the ability to kill penalties effectively and enough skill to center a 3rd line. That's a deal I'd make.
- BiggE


If they could trade 19 to, say, NYR for picks 26 and 28, would you?

Or, you could always trade 19 and 50 to grab 15.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 15 @ 8:46 AM ET
asdf
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 15 @ 8:46 AM ET
If they could trade 19 to, say, NYR for picks 26 and 28, would you?

Or, you could always trade 19 and 50 to grab 15.

- jmatchett383

Yes, I would do both
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 15 @ 8:48 AM ET
Bill,

Do you know who asked the very last question ("Shoot first mentality valued a bit less")?

- Glak18

I don't know for sure but Charlie alluded to asking him a question like that on twitter
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 8:52 AM ET
If they could trade 19 to, say, NYR for picks 26 and 28, would you?

Or, you could always trade 19 and 50 to grab 15.

- jmatchett383


I do the first deal in a heartbeat. After the top 10-12 guys, IMO, there is group of about 20 or so that aren't really separated by all that much. If I can get 2 of those guys rather than one, absolutely! However, there is little to no chance that the Rags will make that deal, I'm pretty sure their scouting dept would have a stroke if that deal was made.

Don't even go there with deal number 2!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 15 @ 8:52 AM ET
I don't know for sure but Charlie alluded to asking him a question like that on twitter
- YuenglingJagr


The way I interpreted the answer was 'if he is Ovechkin type then yes, otherwise we find other attributes more important'

That was just my take. Which makes sense looking back at drafting history.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 15 @ 9:03 AM ET
God that interview was boring.

Love hexy but it’s just brutal

- Just5


I feel like if information did leak out of the Flyers front office somehow, Hextall would have the entire office kneecapped to send a message.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 15 @ 9:05 AM ET
OT, but damn, Toronto blew out Texas last night.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jun 15 @ 9:14 AM ET
I'm a pretty harsh Hextall critic myself but it doesn't mean I think he's doing a bad job.

Hextall is entering season five as Flyers GM. One of my issues with him is he makes trades that more so benefit the draft, rather than speeding up the product on the ice. A perfect example is George McFee. McFee build up the Washington Capitals but doesn't get to enjoy that Cup victory because he is now the Las Vegas Golden Knights GM. Maybe Hextall shouldn't be doing his job like he has all the time in the world.

In my opinion the Schenn trade came too soon. You keep Schenn, you have better offensively depth at forward after drafting Nolan Patrick. If Schenn puts up a 70 season here, we could have gotten an even bigger return for him. This isn't me speaking in hindsight, I've always felt this way.

I cannot deny his Hextall's drafting but his decision is hiring Hakstol, the trading for bad contracts for a better future as if he's guaranteed to be around. The unwillingness to spend on depth on the bottom six, or unwillingness to get this team bigger and stronger to fit "the system". It's bothersome to me. Did our five year plan move up to a ten year plan?

I think he's doing a good job. Not a great job.

- SuperSchennBros


they still got a really good return for him, and keeping him probably doesn't change much last season, with the better offensive depth. if they play the penguins the first round of the playoffs they still should lose that series.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:19 AM ET
Trading 19 for immediate Nhl help is something Ronald hasn’t done. At some point I hope he does. He has never really given the flyers any immediate help in any of his trades. Hell even his free agent signings.

No issue moving down from 19 to get other assets

Peeps have mentioned Bennett. That is something the flyers have he assets for to acquire assuming Calgary is looking to move him.
Make it worth their while to get him
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