Jared Crozier: The top 6 at a glance

Sens should trade lower first round pick or early second round pick for Grubauer to solidify their goaltending until Gust comes up......Trade Condon and go with Graub and Anderson......getting Svechnikov would really help our top 6.....if you trade Karlsson then must get a potential first d pairing guy in the deal and potential top 6 forward....

Bobby Ryan will soon need one of these at this rate

Bobby Ryan will soon need one of these at this rate


- AdamFrench

A similar character arc though?

Duchene, Stone, and Hoffman are definite top 6 forwards. everyone else remains a question mark at this point. The Sens should look at the possibility of adding JVR in the offseason, though he will likely need to be overpaid to come to Ottawa.

I'll not be surprised to see Hoffman traded.

Dutch is going to be extended too.

I'll not be surprised to see Hoffman traded.

Dutch is going to be extended too.
- Roadrunner75

I agree with you on Hoffman. I don't expect him to be here after the 2018-2019 trade deadline. With a stated 3 to 5 year "rebuild", he will be 30 at the end of his current contract.

With the exception of Colin White, all of our top prospects are a year or more away from being top 6 candidates. That includes Logan Brown, Alex Formenton, Drake Batherson, Chlapik or Luchuk. Out of that group, Brown and Batherson have the best shots at being true, quality top 6 forwards.

I'll not be surprised to see Hoffman traded.

Dutch is going to be extended too.
- Roadrunner75

I'll be super disappointed if they trade Hoffman, He has a ton of chemistry with Duchene.

I also think if Hoffman's gone Duchene is gone. Duchene has been very open about wanting to stay in Ottawa if the players he knows he can play with are here and Hoffman is likely #1 on that list.

I'll be super disappointed if they trade Hoffman, He has a ton of chemistry with Duchene.

I also think if Hoffman's gone Duchene is gone. Duchene has been very open about wanting to stay in Ottawa if the players he knows he can play with are here and Hoffman is likely #1 on that list.
- Maverick1818

You're so naive. Whoever will play with Duchene will be good because Duchene has that ability to make players around him better. Hoffman or anybody else will have a good chemistry with #95. So, if Hoffman is traded, someone else (maybe Stone?) will be paired with Duchy and will succeed. The only way Duchene will be gone, its if Sens dont pay him like a 1st line player in 2019. Anyways, Dorion is the GM and will decide what to do with Hoffman. Not you and me.

Ottawa's Odds on Saturday:

5th overall pick: 27.9%
4th overall pick: 33.3%
3rd overall pick: 12.3%
2nd overall pick: 13.0%
1st overall pick: 13.5%

Noteworthy: There's a 38.8% chance Sens get a top 3 pick; 61.2% they don't. But there's a 72.1% they don't get a 5th overall pick

You're so naive. Whoever will play with Duchene will be good because Duchene has that ability to make players around him better. Hoffman or anybody else will have a good chemistry with #95. So, if Hoffman is traded, someone else (maybe Stone?) will be paired with Duchy and will succeed. The only way Duchene will be gone, its if Sens dont pay him like a 1st line player in 2019. Anyways, Dorion is the GM and will decide what to do with Hoffman. Not you and me.
- batman8990

Why is it anytime I post something, you post some insulting comment only at me?

No it's not naive at all, especially when Duchene himself in the exit interview and on multiple occasions has said things like "I've built chemistry with players over this past season, it took a while to get going and now that we are clicking, I don't want to ruin that. I've enjoyed my time in Ottawa and want to know that there is a plan and key players who I've built chemistry with will be here". Usually in there naming Hoffman specifically.

That's not being naive, that's taking factual statements right from the players mouth and applying it to he teams situation.

I agree money is going to be a big part of it, but the teams plans and specific players have a lot to do with it.

Dazingle a 40 goal man??? Man i hope so.
The top 6 are pretty solid but the style of play is stifling
From there down is where things get real dodgy

Why is it anytime I post something, you post some insulting comment only at me?

No it's not naive at all, especially when Duchene himself in the exit interview and on multiple occasions has said things like "I've built chemistry with players over this past season, it took a while to get going and now that we are clicking, I don't want to ruin that. I've enjoyed my time in Ottawa and want to know that there is a plan and key players who I've built chemistry with will be here". Usually in there naming Hoffman specifically.

That's not being naive, that's taking factual statements right from the players mouth and applying it to he teams situation.

I agree money is going to be a big part of it, but the teams plans and specific players have a lot to do with it.
- Maverick1818

Factual facts from players mouth. You should never take what players said for granted. Its not always the truth. They dont have the control on the team and on other players. Everybody knows that except you. Its the reason why youre naive.

Dazingle a 40 goal man??? Man i hope so.
The top 6 are pretty solid but the style of play is stifling
From there down is where things get real dodgy
- spazzbot

Dzingel is not scoring more than 25 goals; and I would be VERY surprised and happy if he had back to back 23 goal seasons

Leafs choke. Nothing changes. Time for everyone to move full speed into summer talk.

I think the odds on trading Karlsson are going up.

i believe that many teams are capable of offering up a top prospect (or young player) and a top 5 pick (directly or through acquisition).

Edmonton (Draisaitl at $8.5m), Rangers with 3 first round picks and Buffalo (drafting 2nd, 3rd or 4th) can make very strong offers. I think playng with McDavid will be the most appealing option to Karlsson personally. I also believe the media and NHL will eat up a McDavid/Karlsson marriage.

Tampa has the deepest prospect pool and should not be discounted (especially if they miss in the next playoff round).

Islanders can also be expected to make a Karlsson push to satisfy Tavares. However Tavares plus Karlsson may also be the Ranger game plan.

Leafs choke. Nothing changes. Time for everyone to move full speed into summer talk.

I think the odds on trading Karlsson are going up.

i believe that many teams are capable of offering up a top prospect (or young player) and a top 5 pick (directly or through acquisition).

Edmonton (Draisaitl at $8.5m), Rangers with 3 first round picks and Buffalo (drafting 2nd, 3rd or 4th) can make very strong offers. I think playng with McDavid will be the most appealing option to Karlsson personally. I also believe the media and NHL will eat up a McDavid/Karlsson marriage.

Tampa has the deepest prospect pool and should not be discounted (especially if they miss in the next playoff round).

Islanders can also be expected to make a Karlsson push to satisfy Tavares. However Tavares plus Karlsson may also be the Ranger game plan.
- spatso

Rangers have the assets from what they gathered this past deadline but they appear committed to the rebuild. They've said as much. Of course, adding Tavares and Karlsson would change any team, but with Lundqvists age I think they commit to the rebuild

Leafs choke. Nothing changes. Time for everyone to move full speed into summer talk.

I think the odds on trading Karlsson are going up.

i believe that many teams are capable of offering up a top prospect (or young player) and a top 5 pick (directly or through acquisition).

Edmonton (Draisaitl at $8.5m), Rangers with 3 first round picks and Buffalo (drafting 2nd, 3rd or 4th) can make very strong offers. I think playng with McDavid will be the most appealing option to Karlsson personally. I also believe the media and NHL will eat up a McDavid/Karlsson marriage.

Tampa has the deepest prospect pool and should not be discounted (especially if they miss in the next playoff round).

Islanders can also be expected to make a Karlsson push to satisfy Tavares. However Tavares plus Karlsson may also be the Ranger game plan.
- spatso

If Karlsson is not retained there is no trade I can accept.
I will want Melnyk's head (over the internet) and will rain the biggest PR sh*storm this owner has ever seen

Factual facts from players mouth. You should never take what players said for granted. Its not always the truth. They dont have the control on the team and on other players. Everybody knows that except you. Its the reason why youre naive.
- batman8990

Are you retarded? I am genuinely worried about you.

Doesn't matter if they have control or not. The fact is that he said it and has multiple times. That is factual. Meaning it really happened. So regardless of if it's right or not, it happened.

Also Duchene is a UFA. Meaning that he does have control over his situation if he wants to stay he'll sign and if he wants to leave when his contract is done, he can.

He's said having the right players around him is important to his decision to stay or not and the fact is that he's mentioned Hoffman by name, several times.

So I'm not sure what your problem is with me, I don't know if you are just a hater, a troll, just mad Duchene didn't get traded to the Habs, or just another french piece of garbage making the rest of Canada look bad. But before trying to insult someone, try actually reading what was posted.

Dzingel is not scoring more than 25 goals; and I would be VERY surprised and happy if he had back to back 23 goal seasons
- AlfieisKing

I've always said Hoffman could be a 40 goal guy and now that we have Duchene and they have a ton of chemistry I believe he could be.

Dzingle I think is more of a 20-25 goal guy. But you never know, he can skate, had a good shot and isn't afraid to get in the dirty areas so you never know.

I've always said Hoffman could be a 40 goal guy and now that we have Duchene and they have a ton of chemistry I believe he could be.

Dzingle I think is more of a 20-25 goal guy. But you never know, he can skate, had a good shot and isn't afraid to get in the dirty areas so you never know.
- Maverick1818

I don't doubt that Hoffman can score 40 goals.

But so could Martin Havlat if he was healthy.

Potential vs Actually doing it is what I hate about this franchise in a way; an owner that will sell potential at every turn but not retain players when he's not getting the best bang for buck. They had no problem paying Karlsson less than what he deserved but they won't pay him what he deserves; which is $ 9.5m-11.5m / year

As for Dzingel, I can see him hitting 20 goals again, maybe even becoming like Clarke MacArthur in terms of his production, but health, chemistry, luck, and many other factors come into play with a guy like that. If your talking about Duchene or Hoffman, their going to get their 20 goals no matter what (if healthy) b/c the skillset is just on another level

I've always said Hoffman could be a 40 goal guy and now that we have Duchene and they have a ton of chemistry I believe he could be.

Dzingle I think is more of a 20-25 goal guy. But you never know, he can skate, had a good shot and isn't afraid to get in the dirty areas so you never know.
- Maverick1818

Nothing to do with chemistry more to do with if Boucher is back, Hoffman is likely moved. Coach and player not on the same page is always a bad thing. Ottawa is already in talks with Dutch so he isn't going anywhere though. He likes it there and wants to stay.

The more interesting is Karlsson as I see the good in moving him, but it IS a pr nightmare there as well. I think they move him and go into the rebuild using that to really pick up more pieces, unless Karlsson is just absolutely adamant on staying and Melnyk suddenly stops being the reincarnation of Harrold Ballard and being a cheap bastard!

If Karlsson is not retained there is no trade I can accept.
I will want Melnyk's head (over the internet) and will rain the biggest PR sh*storm this owner has ever seen
- AlfieisKing

You clearly think that you are something you are not and need to seek professional help, and quite possibly should delete your account.