Ryan Wilson: Another bye Another bye

Can you feel the pressure?

However, stranger things have happened like when the Capitals lost to the Penguins last year despite severely outplaying the Penguins
- Ryan_Wilson

Again, I ask the question: Why are goaltenders not considered part of a team? If they outplayed the Penguins, they would have scored more goals than the Penguins in more games.

Did they have a heavy advantage is shots and puck possession time: absolutely. Does that often contribute to winning: again, absolutely. But one of the biggest parts of your team outplaying the other team has to do with how well your goalie plays compared to the other team's goalie. Last year, the Penguins' team outscored the Capitals team in 4 out of 7 games, and that is why they were the better team (IMO).

I don't know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Coots just played some of his best hockey on one leg. Gino Tank do same thing.

Again, I ask the question: Why are goaltenders not considered part of a team? If they outplayed the Penguins, they would have scored more goals than the Penguins in more games.

Did they have a heavy advantage is shots and puck possession time: absolutely. Does that often contribute to winning: again, absolutely. But one of the biggest parts of your team outplaying the other team has to do with how well your goalie plays compared to the other team's goalie. Last year, the Penguins' team outscored the Capitals team in 4 out of 7 games, and that is why they were the better team (IMO).
- jmatchett383

Don't you dare say that to Tanner

9 out 10... staggering

These are all through different years and different rosters. They're 3-0 in the Sid/Ovie era though and very similar rosters over the last two years.

One of the basic ideas of probability is that the more you attempt something, the less likely the same result will occur; does this work in the Caps favor?

I swear kickers in the NFL get more love than goaltenders sometimes( when breaking down what team outplayed the other etc). When the player that actually plays the full 60mins outplayed the other teams counterpart it needs to be emphasised not downplayed for some analytic narrative.

Can you feel the pressure?
- Feds91Stammer

But they're not all expected to win Feds. Some teams goals are to just make the playoffs some years.

9 out 10... staggering

These are all through different years and different rosters. They're 3-0 in the Sid/Ovie era though and very similar rosters over the last two years.

One of the basic ideas of probability is that the more you attempt something, the less likely the same result will occur; does this work in the Caps favor?
- Rinosaur

Not quite the same as flipping a coin.

Not quite the same as flipping a coin.
- taleisyreXIII

I'm aware.

9 out 10... staggering

These are all through different years and different rosters. They're 3-0 in the Sid/Ovie era though and very similar rosters over the last two years.

One of the basic ideas of probability is that the more you attempt something, the less likely the same result will occur; does this work in the Caps favor?
- Rinosaur

That's true, but it becomes far more likely to get the same result the farther out you move from equality.

Don't you dare say that to Tanner
- Rinosaur

I know, when you use the #fancystats, goaltenders are simply categorized as "luck."

I know, when you use the #fancystats, goaltenders are simply categorized as "luck."
- jmatchett383

haha you know, never really thought about that before, but you're right. No matter the strength of either club, a hot goalie can be the difference. See both the Pens and Caps getting Halak'ed in 2010...Then the Flyers beat them/him....

haha you know, never really thought about that before, but you're right. No matter the strength of either club, a hot goalie can be the difference. See both the Pens and Caps getting Halak'ed in 2010...Then the Flyers beat them/him....
- MattStrat

I just made this argument in Tanner's thread.

There should be no difference between a goalie or a center rising to the occasion. A good player carrying his team is the same regardless of the position. It happens more than once a playoff season.

But they're not all expected to win Feds. Some teams goals are to just make the playoffs some years.
- MattStrat

Maybe not by you. But make no mistake every play in all those locker rooms expects to win and advance to the next round.

Maybe not by you. But make no mistake every play in all those locker rooms expects to win and advance to the next round.
- Feds91Stammer

Question... why do you have VGK as your team now? Not antagonizing, just curious.

Question... why do you have VGK as your team now? Not antagonizing, just curious.
- Rinosaur

Tatar.

Tatar.
- MattStrat

Ahhh, that's right.

This dude at my old job, a new hockey fan, kept calling "Tar Tar."

I just made this argument in Tanner's thread.

There should be no difference between a goalie or a center rising to the occasion. A good player carrying his team is the same regardless of the position. It happens more than once a playoff season.
- Rinosaur

Exactly. If a skater or group of skaters goes on a tear or goes ice cold, then they're just "outplaying/being outplayed."

If a goalie does either, it's "luck."

Question... why do you have VGK as your team now? Not antagonizing, just curious.
- Rinosaur

Tatar. But in reality as a DET fan my stanley cup is this Saturday.

Maybe not by you. But make no mistake every play in all those locker rooms expects to win and advance to the next round.
- Feds91Stammer

No, not just me. Make no mistake that the brass and GM's of a team have goals for a club and the players know it too. Some team's goals in a year are to simply make the playoffs. Some teams are to win a round and some team's goal is to win the cup. There in lies the different levels of pressure. Thats not to mention expectations of fans and media pressure with respect to those scenarios.

What you're talking about is desire to win. That's two completely different things.

I just made this argument in Tanner's thread.

There should be no difference between a goalie or a center rising to the occasion. A good player carrying his team is the same regardless of the position. It happens more than once a playoff season.
- Rinosaur

Yup.

But they're not all expected to win Feds. Some teams goals are to just make the playoffs some years.
- MattStrat

Last year, I think it was Datsyuk who said that it was great that Detroit missed the playoffs. He said that the goal every year was to make the playoffs simply to keep the streak alive, and that it was a burden on the players, coach, and GM. So yes, for the last 4-5 years of their streak, the primary goal was to simply get in somehow.

I just made this argument in Tanner's thread.

There should be no difference between a goalie or a center rising to the occasion. A good player carrying his team is the same regardless of the position. It happens more than once a playoff season.
- Rinosaur

You know, if you really expect James Tanner to use logic as opposed to some arbitrary mathematical model someone invented for their 15 minutes of internet fame, you're kidding yourself.

You know, if you really expect James Tanner to use logic as opposed to some arbitrary mathematical model someone invented for their 15 minutes of internet fame, you're kidding yourself.
- jmatchett383

He's just really fun to troll.