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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Apr 9 @ 5:06 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: Schedule and probabilities Schedule and probabilities
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Apr 9 @ 5:12 PM ET
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DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Apr 9 @ 5:16 PM ET
I really enjoy Dom's work and think his series breakdowns are very easy to digest while being super informative. Worth the subscription alone.


I feel like this was directed at my poor ass.

But Gunner is right, this stupid playoff format is the result of the NHL trying to copy march madness.

Can't say I'm not a bit surprised that Micah's breakdown gives a slight edge to both Minny over WPG and LAK over LVG.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 9 @ 5:16 PM ET
By keeping Bergevin we at least get to watch them go down in flames in two languages
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Apr 9 @ 5:20 PM ET


During better times
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Apr 9 @ 5:22 PM ET
I feel like this was directed at my poor ass.

But Gunner is right, this stupid playoff format is the result of the NHL trying to copy march madness.

Can't say I'm not a bit surprised that Micah's breakdown gives a slight edge to both Minny over WPG and LAK over LVG.

- DeflatedPucks


Like I wrote in the last thread, If TO goes out in the first round I could see the NHL suddenly having a change of heart to this stupid format.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Apr 9 @ 5:29 PM ET
Like I wrote in the last thread, If TO goes out in the first round I could see the NHL suddenly having a change of heart to this stupid format.
- madmike71


Agreed, its going to happen at some point. There wasn't nearly enough concern in 15-16 when the #1 and #2 in the east met in the second round.
Conse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rio de Janeiro
Joined: 11.27.2013

Apr 9 @ 5:29 PM ET
It must suck not having Subban to blame for bad attitude anymore.

MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Apr 9 @ 5:36 PM ET
How are these odds calculated?
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 9 @ 5:50 PM ET
How are these odds calculated?
- MattStrat


coin toss 1000x.
eNDSo
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.20.2016

Apr 9 @ 6:16 PM ET
It must suck not having Subban to blame for bad attitude anymore.
- Conse


I love that Nashville has been a powerhouse and Montreal has been a burnout since that trade.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 9 @ 6:38 PM ET
I love that Nashville has been a powerhouse and Montreal has been a burnout since that trade.
- eNDSo

Imagine how good Nashville would be if expansion hadn't of happened and they still had James Neal.
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

Apr 9 @ 6:43 PM ET
Salty much. Is it a snow flake hipster thing to always be salty?
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Apr 9 @ 6:44 PM ET
What are people looking for in a change to the playoff format? No divisions then rank every team 1v8 for seeding? Or is it no conferences and rank every team 1v16?

To do either of those things would require a complete remodel of the league to make it fair. Each team would have to play each other team and equal number of times or some teams will be able to feast on the weak teams (ie the atlantic division).

I'd be for this, I'd rather play each team say 3 times than play the Flyers 6 times a year or whatever it is. But then you have to increase the number of games in a season. Or reduce the number and play each team twice? Owners wont like that loss of revenue.

Is there a suggested format out there that addresses the competition issue?
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Apr 9 @ 6:59 PM ET
Imagine how good Nashville would be if expansion hadn't of happened and they still had James Neal.
- Victoro311



Yeah, that half a mil in cap space they have now and Neal's 5 mil price tag...
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 9 @ 7:24 PM ET
What are people looking for in a change to the playoff format? No divisions then rank every team 1v8 for seeding? Or is it no conferences and rank every team 1v16?

To do either of those things would require a complete remodel of the league to make it fair. Each team would have to play each other team and equal number of times or some teams will be able to feast on the weak teams (ie the atlantic division).

I'd be for this, I'd rather play each team say 3 times than play the Flyers 6 times a year or whatever it is. But then you have to increase the number of games in a season. Or reduce the number and play each team twice? Owners wont like that loss of revenue.

Is there a suggested format out there that addresses the competition issue?

- stackthepads

The way the NBA does playoffs is probably the best rout. That way you keep conferences and even divisions, which I think is important for rivalries, but you seed the playoffs according to conference standings, not divisional standings.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 9 @ 7:39 PM ET
Love playing the flyers this should be fun boys!
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Apr 9 @ 7:40 PM ET
coin toss 1000x.
- j.boyd919


668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 9 @ 7:41 PM ET
What are people looking for in a change to the playoff format? No divisions then rank every team 1v8 for seeding? Or is it no conferences and rank every team 1v16?

To do either of those things would require a complete remodel of the league to make it fair. Each team would have to play each other team and equal number of times or some teams will be able to feast on the weak teams (ie the atlantic division).

I'd be for this, I'd rather play each team say 3 times than play the Flyers 6 times a year or whatever it is. But then you have to increase the number of games in a season. Or reduce the number and play each team twice? Owners wont like that loss of revenue.

Is there a suggested format out there that addresses the competition issue?

- stackthepads

I think leaders of each division can be #1 and #2 but after that it just goes 3-8 whoever Is the best that's how it use to be except 3 divisions.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Apr 9 @ 7:41 PM ET
does laviolette still think giroux is the best player?
taleisyreXIII
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.18.2012

Apr 9 @ 7:46 PM ET
The way the NBA does playoffs is probably the best rout. That way you keep conferences and even divisions, which I think is important for rivalries, but you seed the playoffs according to conference standings, not divisional standings.
- Victoro311



I must be in the minority and don't care for all the whining being done about what's fair or not. Real champions have to run a gauntlet regardless of how the format is set up. As a kid the playoffs were very clearly...win round one, win your division, win your conference, win the cup. We are as close to that we can get now with so many teams. I miss the time when win your division in the playoffs meant something.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 9 @ 7:52 PM ET
I must be in the minority and don't care for all the whining being done about what's fair or not. Real champions have to run a gauntlet regardless of how the format is set up. As a kid the playoffs were very clearly...win round one, win your division, win your conference, win the cup. We are as close to that we can get now with so many teams. I miss the time when win your division in the playoffs meant something.
- taleisyreXIII

I don't really care about the playoff matchups. I just think its boosh that every year some teams make it into the playoffs off the virtue that they are in the weak division of their conference. I'd like to see the best of both worlds where you don't completely get rid of conferences/division and the rivalries that go along with them, but the best teams still make the playoffs.

Maybe you just decrease the number of divisional spots and increase the amount of wild cards. Only give the top two teams in a division playoff bids as the top seeds and have the rest be wild cards seeded by record.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Apr 9 @ 7:58 PM ET
I hate that they're playing the Flyers. I have more bad playoff memories vs them than good ones. Started in 1989. I cried when the Pens lost that series. Its one of my first hockey memories, the elimination game.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 9 @ 8:23 PM ET
I don't really care about the playoff matchups. I just think its boosh that every year some teams make it into the playoffs off the virtue that they are in the weak division of their conference. I'd like to see the best of both worlds where you don't completely get rid of conferences/division and the rivalries that go along with them, but the best teams still make the playoffs.

Maybe you just decrease the number of divisional spots and increase the amount of wild cards. Only give the top two teams in a division playoff bids as the top seeds and have the rest be wild cards seeded by record.

- Victoro311

Especially when the schedules are like 91% identical
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 9 @ 8:30 PM ET
I hate that they're playing the Flyers. I have more bad playoff memories vs them than good ones. Started in 1989. I cried when the Pens lost that series. Its one of my first hockey memories, the elimination game.
- MattStrat

Same went for the Rangers before 2016. Bouncing them was one of the best parts of that Cup. That euphoria I felt after that series is why I'm so excited and nervous for this one.
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