MjulQvist
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So Hawks will pick at top 10 and we all know names that might be there but who should Hawks be looking with their another first round pick? |
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jhawk59
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He’s been injured, there wasn’t much information other than it being an “upper body injury”. - DarthKane
Whatever injury, please not a concussion.
Ironicly it is the Icehogs who will be tough to play against, not quite how Bowman plans called for at start of this now past season. In the upcoming playoffs Rockford has lots of depth, blueline experience, goaltending has been sold all season, plenty of toughness, scoring comes from maybe even four lines after the Blackhawks reassign some players. |
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35Tony0
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Points-wise, Chicago finished in position to drafter 7th. However, given the draft lottery, I have read here in the comments they can draft pretty much anywhere from 1st to 10th.
Been quite a long while since they've drafted this early in the first round.
Questions: how many players in the first round are right now ready to play in the NHL? Is that number 10 deep?
Here's hoping they hit on the draft choices and a free agent or two. |
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jhawk59
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So Hawks will pick at top 10 and we all know names that might be there but who should Hawks be looking with their another first round pick? - MjulQvist
There is all kinds of reads on this question. I think a lot of their strategy depends upon whom they draft with the first choice. What position does their first choice play? And how are they planning to get an experienced top four dman? That is not easy to accomplish.
Among the consideration for actually drafting their second first round, are:
* somone slips down the scouts really like
* there is a desire to add a grit tough style player who could eventually play top six minutes/their ceiling prediction
* is there a goaltender available they like and need to draft now before he is gone by their next pick
* do they trade down for an extra pick. Or trade up for a second earlier slot first round pick
Do you have any names or ideas you like to see happen?
I feel there are enough scenarios and not great enough potential in players rated late first for me to get overly excited |
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DarthKane
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Points-wise, Chicago finished in position to drafter 7th. However, given the draft lottery, I have read here in the comments they can draft pretty much anywhere from 1st to 10th.
Been quite a long while since they've drafted this early in the first round.
Questions: how many players in the first round are right now ready to play in the NHL? Is that number 10 deep?
Here's hoping they hit on the draft choices and a free agent or two. - 35Tony0
The Hawks are winning the draft lottery so it doesn’t matter.
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kwolf68
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Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA Joined: 12.18.2010
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Points-wise, Chicago finished in position to drafter 7th. However, given the draft lottery, I have read here in the comments they can draft pretty much anywhere from 1st to 10th.
Been quite a long while since they've drafted this early in the first round.
Questions: how many players in the first round are right now ready to play in the NHL? Is that number 10 deep?
Here's hoping they hit on the draft choices and a free agent or two. - 35Tony0
It will take far more than a top 10 pick to get this team back. Keep in mind the other non playoff teams are picking equal or better prospects. It will take a combination of savy trades, good free agent decisions, finding some under the radar players, a resurgence from players on steep decline, and health of our goalie then and only then will this team be a candidate for post season.
I think this team COULD rebound next year and have a great year, but I also think it could be one of the worst in the NHL as well. TONS of things to figure out. |
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jhawk59
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It will take far more than a top 10 pick to get this team back. Keep in mind the other non playoff teams are picking equal or better prospects. It will take a combination of savy trades, good free agent decisions, finding some under the radar players, a resurgence from players on steep decline, and health of our goalie then and only then will this team be a candidate for post season.
I think this team COULD rebound next year and have a great year, but I also think it could be one of the worst in the NHL as well. TONS of things to figure out. - kwolf68
Your "could" predictions are a good read. I think the team will need more toughness and grit spread throughout the forward lines and at least one pair beside Murphy's. Without enough push back they will get thoroughly beat, maybe hanging tough for a while then falling too far behind. Their biggest need beside some p ush back is for Crawford and Kane to be huge. Let prospects develop and after next season some will move into lineup and remain. It probably takes one more year before we start seeing more top talent Bowman choose up and at least showing flashes.
Forsling, Jokiharju, #1 2018 need one year
Edjsell, maybe another dman about same time.
Hillman can play here now or half season AHL. I would like Delia one more full year at Rockford.
Anyone see Tuulola 2gp over weekend? Rockford at Wolves next Saturday. How many Blackhawks reassigned will be in the Icehogs lineup that day? |
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hawks2010
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Location: Madison, WI Joined: 07.13.2009
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Sharpie was here from the start - that core five - wowsa...a great trade by Dale to get Sharp here. Still think Sharp should have won the Conn Smythe in 2010 - 11 g 11a in the playoffs that year. Yikes. - DK002
No doubt!! Toews getting the Conn Smythe basically cost them Andrew Ladd because of the bonus Toews got. |
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EnzoD
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Location: Denver, CO Joined: 02.19.2014
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Your "could" predictions are a good read. I think the team will need more toughness and grit spread throughout the forward lines and at least one pair beside Murphy's. Without enough push back they will get thoroughly beat, maybe hanging tough for a while then falling too far behind. Their biggest need beside some p ush back is for Crawford and Kane to be huge. Let prospects develop and after next season some will move into lineup and remain. It probably takes one more year before we start seeing more top talent Bowman choose up and at least showing flashes.
Forsling, Jokiharju, #1 2018 need one year
Edjsell, maybe another dman about same time.
Hillman can play here now or half season AHL. I would like Delia one more full year at Rockford.
Anyone see Tuulola 2gp over weekend? Rockford at Wolves next Saturday. How many Blackhawks reassigned will be in the Icehogs lineup that day? - jhawk59
Edjsell has lead feet and is not strong. You have to be either fast/quick or strong, and he is neither. He's nothing but AHL fodder IMO. |
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hawks2010
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So Hawks will pick at top 10 and we all know names that might be there but who should Hawks be looking with their another first round pick? - MjulQvist Barring someone slipping in the rankings, like Tolvanen did last year, I keep stopping at KAndre Miller. Big LD headed to Wisconsin next year. I’ve come across some Russian players who might be possible, like Kravtsov, Sokolov, Swede in Olofsson, and German, Bokk.
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hawks2010
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Edjsell has lead feet and is not strong. You have to be either fast/quick or strong, and he is neither. He's nothing but AHL fodder IMO. - EnzoD
Agreed. I also think it might be good for Sikura to start in Rockford. He’s definitely an NHLer, he just needs to put on serious muscle!! |
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EnzoD
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Agreed - hawks2010
If they can get a legit NHLer with Nashville's pick, it's still a fair trade. Hartman was not in the plans, for whatever reason, so at least they got a 1st and a project prospect. I'm not saying Edjsell can never be an effective NHLer, but he reminds me of Svedberg as a Center....just too slow and soft to be good right now. Maybe he can develop better strength and skating over the next year in the Hawks system.
I'm very intrigued by Wahstrom who put up FAR more points than Tzchuck for USA this year and is a BIG body 18 yr at 6'1" 200lbs. Does anyone know if Wahlstrom projects better at C or W? They have him listed as 2nd best center but also as a wing.... |
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hawks2010
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If they can get a legit NHLer with Nashville's pick, it's still a fair trade. Hartman was not in the plans, for whatever reason, so at least they got a 1st and a project prospect. I'm not saying Edjsell can never be an effective NHLer, but he reminds me of Svedberg as a Center....just too slow and soft to be good right now. Maybe he can develop better strength and skating over the next year in the Hawks system.
I'm very intrigued by Wahstrom who put up FAR more points than Tzchuck for USA this year and is a BIG body 18 yr at 6'1" 200lbs. - EnzoD
I’m big on Wahlstrom, too!! I thought it was important to finish ahead of Edmonton because I think he is their target. Only D I see the Hawks taking, besides Dahlin, is Boqvist (Unless they trade down). I’d be shocked if Detroit passed on Hughes.
I’ve heard Calgary really wants a 1st Rd pick and might be willing to deal a D, to get one. How about the Nashville 1st rounder for Brodie or Stone? I don’t see many Calgary games, so who’s the better guy? Would that be a fair trade? |
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gazza53
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So Hawks will pick at top 10 and we all know names that might be there but who should Hawks be looking with their another first round pick? - MjulQvist
With Nashville's pick here are 3 decent choices from everything I've read
Ty Dellandrea C 6'1 190 shoot's R
Mattias Samuelson D 6'4 216 shoot's L
Jett Woo D 6'0 205 shot's R supposedly a bit of nasty also
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jhawk59
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Edjsell has lead feet and is not strong. You have to be either fast/quick or strong, and he is neither. He's nothing but AHL fodder IMO. - EnzoD
I say you are correct. He does have skill and vision. He needs to get either strong enough or fast enough. He may need two or more years AHL which is really his home until he gets stronger and faster
Summer workouts critical |
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powerenforcer
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Location: Wheeling, IL Joined: 09.24.2009
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No doubt!! Toews getting the Conn Smythe basically cost them Andrew Ladd because of the bonus Toews got. - hawks2010
Glad someonr else belives that was Bettman's plan all along. |
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EnzoD
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I say you are correct. He does have skill and vision. He needs to get either strong enough or fast enough. He may need two or more years AHL which is really his home until he gets stronger and faster
Summer workouts critical - jhawk59
Agreed for pretty much the entire team.
Seabrook + Toews + Edjsell need to improve skating.
Schmaltz + Sikura + Forsling + Gustafson + Rutta need to improve strength
Saad needs to get a SMART hockey ball for off ice stickhandlinh practice. He also needs to shoot about 10,000 pucks this summer to remember how to hit his target.
If the Hawks win the lottery ball at 2 or 3 who do you take? Svechnokov or Zadina or do you reach a bit on Tzchuck? |
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jhawk59
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I’m big on Wahlstrom, too!! I thought it was important to finish ahead of Edmonton because I think he is their target. Only D I see the Hawks taking, besides Dahlin, is Boqvist (Unless they trade down). I’d be shocked if Detroit passed on Hughes.
I’ve heard Calgary really wants a 1st Rd pick and might be willing to deal a D, to get one. How about the Nashville 1st rounder for Brodie or Stone? I don’t see many Calgary games, so who’s the better guy? Would that be a fair trade? - hawks2010
Arizona decided that Stone was not top tier prospect, let him go. Brodie is small like Keith. Early in his caeer he was viewed as a hidden gem but since then i sense he has not really advanced as a top player. That Calgary is deep in above average dmen, makes me wonder where he sits in their pecking order |
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jhawk59
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Agreed for pretty much the entire team.
Seabrook + Toews + Edjsell need to improve skating.
Schmaltz + Sikura + Forsling + Gustafson + Rutta need to improve strength
Saad needs to get a SMART hockey ball for off ice stickhandlinh practice. He also needs to shoot about 10,000 pucks this summer to remember how to hit his target.
If the Hawks win the lottery ball at 2 or 3 who do you take? Svechnokov or Zadina or do you reach a bit on Tzchuck? - EnzoD
Just a hunch but Bowman probably would be smitten taking the Hossa like checker with very good game both ways. |
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EnzoD
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Just a hunch but Bowman probably would be smitten taking the Hossa like checker with very good game both ways. - jhawk59
That would be Zadina? |
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jhawk59
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With Nashville's pick here are 3 decent choices from everything I've read
Ty Dellandrea C 6'1 190 shoot's R
Mattias Samuelson D 6'4 216 shoot's L
Jett Woo D 6'0 205 shot's R supposedly a bit of nasty also - gazza53
Will be looking at those names if Chicago still on the board late first. That is Samuelson"s kid, right (?) the best of his three hockey playing sons. If selected there could be father and two sons in camp in the fall. |
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I’m big on Wahlstrom, too!! I thought it was important to finish ahead of Edmonton because I think he is their target. Only D I see the Hawks taking, besides Dahlin, is Boqvist (Unless they trade down). I’d be shocked if Detroit passed on Hughes.
I’ve heard Calgary really wants a 1st Rd pick and might be willing to deal a D, to get one. How about the Nashville 1st rounder for Brodie or Stone? I don’t see many Calgary games, so who’s the better guy? Would that be a fair trade? - hawks2010
I doubt it. That 2nd pick is #31, last of the round. There are several other teams with multiple 1st round picks and the NYR have 3. |
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jhawk59
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That would be Zadina? - EnzoD
Yes. Wiz favorite.
A lot depends who goes where in the draft. Does any team move up or down even a slot or two. I am guessing Bowman likes Zadina, Walstrom or Bouchard next. Worse case scenario i hope they find Dobson #8-9.
Interestingly enough i can see similarities between Svitnikov (spology sic on.the #2 listed on wiz list) and Edjsell due to size although our guy doesn't have the speed or same offensive game. It would be a real stunner if Svitnikov also wound up here because Bowman will (might?) keep drafting puck moving smallish dmen and big centers.
Why would I imagine that about drafting centers. I am spitballing, looking at a pattern of drafting his type of dmen THEN just throwing out there the idea that he wants a big center to replace Toews. Not the same type as Toews but (understand what i say next) a big size center to complement all the smaller quick or skill forwards (DeBrincat, Schmaltz, Sikura, Kane). |
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It will take far more than a top 10 pick to get this team back. Keep in mind the other non playoff teams are picking equal or better prospects. It will take a combination of savy trades, good free agent decisions, finding some under the radar players, a resurgence from players on steep decline, and health of our goalie then and only then will this team be a candidate for post season.
I think this team COULD rebound next year and have a great year, but I also think it could be one of the worst in the NHL as well. TONS of things to figure out. - kwolf68
I really believe that if Corey was healthy this would of been a fringe playoff team.
I think it's a blessing in disguise that Corey was hurt and the kids logged lots and lots of minutes which will help them this up coming season.
If CC is healthy, they stop giving up odd man brakes, these kids have potential. The young dmen just need more discipline. |
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Goalie-33
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[quote=jhawk59]
WINNING sells tickets
Like Vegas winning without the Big Name player or players
WINNING
Kane has some value so now is the time to dump him off & attached Seabrook with him or this team is stuck for another 6 years
Bowman is one of the WORST GM's going
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