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Todd Cordell
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 02.10.2014

Mar 20 @ 11:52 AM ET
Todd Cordell: Lack of finishing proves costly again as Flames fall to Coyotes
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 20 @ 11:56 AM ET
Todd Cordell: Lack of finishing proves costly again as Flames fall to Coyotes
- ToddCordellCGY

DinoRondelly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.03.2011

Mar 20 @ 12:10 PM ET
Watching the game last night made me physically ill, this coach is out to lunch .. Brouwer on the power play fanned on a tip in ... why is stone hands still getting PP time? Load up on one unit its a must win all in game

Bennett is like a kid who grew up without a hockey net, can stick handle for days but has no shot and no finish.

There was talk on here yesterday about trading Gio, I was slammed on here when I said Gio should have been traded when he was in his last year of his $4mill cap hit contract that return would have set us up . Now we are going to scramble and try and move a 35 year declining dman with 4 years left at almost $7mill .. give your nugget a shake.

This team needs a complete front office overhaul, Burke, Treliving and gutless Gulutzan have no place in hockey period. Way to aim for the middle guys !!

No prospects, nothing really of value to trade, almost maxed out cap wise what a joke.

I don't trust these dipsh*ts to make a Brodie trade or to let them overpay for Evander Kane in some mad scramble to save their jobs.

My predication: BT fires GG and then proceeds to trade yet another 1st round pick, moves Brodie for a maybe forward and over pays for some over the hill FA only to be fired a year later with this team stuck for the next 3-5 years as a playoff hopefully. Not good enough to contend not bad enough to draft high

browntoe
Edmonton Oilers
Location: calgary
Joined: 12.05.2010

Mar 20 @ 12:13 PM ET
Garage sale everyone in the summer for popcorn bags and napkins
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Mar 20 @ 12:16 PM ET
Yeah, I hope they play Ras the rest of the way with Hamonic and I wouldn't mind if they worked in another young D is to see what we have. Take turns resting vets and lets see Kylington and give Wotherspoon a few games too. The season is toast, may as well look to the future.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 20 @ 12:28 PM ET
thank you for losing
Rowdy Roddy Piper
Calgary Flames
Location: Glasgow
Joined: 03.06.2018

Mar 20 @ 12:31 PM ET
The idea of trading Gio is ludicrous. Without him, they lose 90% of the puck battles instead of the 50-60% they do now. I would hate to see Dougie's possession numbers with anyone but Giordano.

The only player with close to the same level of compete is Hamonic. I believe Hamonic is good enough defensively, that the Flames could trade Brodie and not skip a beat replacing him with Ras, Kulak, or another kid from the farm.

As for the enigma that is Sam Bennett.............the kid blows my mind. There are Flashes of brilliance, and then he fades back into Matthew Lombardi territory. If only his mind were as quick as his hands and feet.
hags11
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Mar 20 @ 12:42 PM ET
It's over! No playoffs & no first round pick in the draft. It couldn't be any worse. It is so frustrating to watch this team! They lost to (frank)ing Arizona!!! Arizona!!! Arizona!!! The last place team in the league, who are playing for the first pick overall. What a frustrating joke!

Trade Brodie at the draft for a first round pick this year - and more if you can get it. After the playoffs are done, there will be teams that make the determination that they would have gone farther with a puck moving defenceman. Brodie still has good value, particularly because of his skill set and the position he plays. He is quickly losing value in Calgary and he can be replaced with the defensive prospects that we have.

I don't know what else to do with this team - one player won't make the difference but ripping it down is going too far IMO.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 20 @ 1:24 PM ET

- Cptmjl

Ol_Boy_Wop
Calgary Flames
Joined: 08.24.2011

Mar 20 @ 1:47 PM ET
Trade everyone on the NHL roster except for Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Hamilton, and Andersson.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Mar 20 @ 1:58 PM ET
Haha calm down guys geez...the sky isn't falling, and this was all completely predictable. The Flames are still on the rise, you just all thought the time was now.

For the most part Treliving does a really good job. He's had a few busts in FA, but that's to be expected. He's a strong negotiator and does OK in trades. I am fine with him.

As far as not having any prospects, I think that's completely unfair. Andersson, Fox, and Valimaki are all REALLY good prospects. Upfront isn't as deep, but they do have Dube and Phillips who could make an impact in a year or 2. Keep in mind our best "propect" was Jankowski (he's only going to get better), and the goaltending is deep with Gillies and Parsons.

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 20 @ 2:06 PM ET
Haha calm down guys geez...the sky isn't falling, and this was all completely predictable. The Flames are still on the rise, you just all thought the time was now.

For the most part Treliving does a really good job. He's had a few busts in FA, but that's to be expected. He's a strong negotiator and does OK in trades. I am fine with him.

As far as not having any prospects, I think that's completely unfair. Andersson, Fox, and Valimaki are all REALLY good prospects. Upfront isn't as deep, but they do have Dube and Phillips who could make an impact in a year or 2. Keep in mind our best "propect" was Jankowski (he's only going to get better), and the goaltending is deep with Gillies and Parsons.

- The-O-G

bsimms
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 10.25.2013

Mar 20 @ 2:20 PM ET
I second "the sky is not falling". It's difficult to hear right now after such a terrible stretch of hockey, but we aren't that far off from being really good. Our bottom six needs some more scoring (see -18 goal differential), but we have some real beauties in Hamilton, Gaudreau, Mony (just keeps on scoring) and Tkachuk. I also see some real promise in Rittich, Kulak and Jankowski. Bennett seems unlikely to pan out, and yes, we likely need to trade Brodie to help with forward depth. Can Smith play another year? Can we ditch some of our broken down, or sucky bottom six players?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 20 @ 2:24 PM ET
Haha calm down guys geez...the sky isn't falling, and this was all completely predictable. The Flames are still on the rise, you just all thought the time was now.

For the most part Treliving does a really good job. He's had a few busts in FA, but that's to be expected. He's a strong negotiator and does OK in trades. I am fine with him.

As far as not having any prospects, I think that's completely unfair. Andersson, Fox, and Valimaki are all REALLY good prospects. Upfront isn't as deep, but they do have Dube and Phillips who could make an impact in a year or 2. Keep in mind our best "propect" was Jankowski (he's only going to get better), and the goaltending is deep with Gillies and Parsons.

- The-O-G


you gave up 7 draft picks in the next 2 drafts to plug holes and win now. Flames better figure this out quickly. I wouldnt say they are on the rise, they really have did themselves a disservice with all those picks traded.

Every team has a collection of guys who we all think are studs in the AHL and Junior. Not everyone is going to be a stud in the NHL. So their impact might not be as great if they do make it to the NHL.

Flames have a good collection of youth and talent so in no means are they (frank)ed long term but right now what makes up the other half of the roster is pretty much a dogs breakfast. Need to fix that this summer
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 20 @ 2:38 PM ET
Haha calm down guys geez...the sky isn't falling, and this was all completely predictable. The Flames are still on the rise, you just all thought the time was now.

For the most part Treliving does a really good job. He's had a few busts in FA, but that's to be expected. He's a strong negotiator and does OK in trades. I am fine with him.

As far as not having any prospects, I think that's completely unfair. Andersson, Fox, and Valimaki are all REALLY good prospects. Upfront isn't as deep, but they do have Dube and Phillips who could make an impact in a year or 2. Keep in mind our best "propect" was Jankowski (he's only going to get better), and the goaltending is deep with Gillies and Parsons.

- The-O-G


I think you have to acknowledge that this season has been a failure. The Flames to me, on paper, should be at the top of the league (within the top 10 atleast) given their age, talent, etc. I won't criticize Trev as I think he has done a fantastic job as GM, but every year that you guys aren't contending, it's a year wasted given the draft picks dealt. I still have hope you guys turn it around very quickly, but to say that the players have been underperforming would be an understatement. I think most had the Flames being a top contending team in the Pacific
StephenKalil
Calgary Flames
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 11.20.2013

Mar 20 @ 2:42 PM ET
maybe not as bad as things look? Couple of tweaks. IE: start with question. Are Backlund/Frolik legit 2nd line guy? I say nope, compared to elite teams with legit 1st, 2nd line centres. They'd be great as 3rd line anchors. It's where they belong. How about seeing what a stronger, heavier Janko looks like as 2nd line centre with Tzachuck? If it works out, presto 2 legit pairs on top 3 lines? Fill in wingers. More balance. If unsure re Janko, then legit 2nd line centre becomes priority over the summer.
bosman
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 20 @ 2:56 PM ET
sky isn,t falling, the golf season is in a few weeks for duh flames
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 20 @ 2:57 PM ET
maybe not as bad as things look? Couple of tweaks. IE: start with question. Are Backlund/Frolik legit 2nd line guy? I say nope, compared to elite teams with legit 1st, 2nd line centres. They'd be great as 3rd line anchors. It's where they belong. How about seeing what a stronger, heavier Janko looks like as 2nd line centre with Tzachuck? If it works out, presto 2 legit pairs on top 3 lines? Fill in wingers. More balance. If unsure re Janko, then legit 2nd line centre becomes priority over the summer.
- StephenKalil


In your opinion, what qualifies a player to be a good 2nd line center, cause I am pretty sure you have that in Backlund.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 20 @ 2:58 PM ET
In your opinion, what qualifies a player to be a good 2nd line center, cause I am pretty sure you have that in Backlund.
- Codes1087

Agreed
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Mar 20 @ 3:42 PM ET
I think you have to acknowledge that this season has been a failure. The Flames to me, on paper, should be at the top of the league (within the top 10 atleast) given their age, talent, etc. I won't criticize Trev as I think he has done a fantastic job as GM, but every year that you guys aren't contending, it's a year wasted given the draft picks dealt. I still have hope you guys turn it around very quickly, but to say that the players have been underperforming would be an understatement. I think most had the Flames being a top contending team in the Pacific
- Codes1087


I don't think so Tim. I knew this team would be a bubble team.

It would have been nice for this team to make the playoffs, but they would have got spanked in the first round.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Mar 20 @ 3:47 PM ET
you gave up 7 draft picks in the next 2 drafts to plug holes and win now. Flames better figure this out quickly. I wouldnt say they are on the rise, they really have did themselves a disservice with all those picks traded.

Every team has a collection of guys who we all think are studs in the AHL and Junior. Not everyone is going to be a stud in the NHL. So their impact might not be as great if they do make it to the NHL.

Flames have a good collection of youth and talent so in no means are they (frank)ed long term but right now what makes up the other half of the roster is pretty much a dogs breakfast. Need to fix that this summer

- DDM-Coga


The core of this team is still very young. It's full of players that are still trying to find themselves in the NHL. I've said all year, their time is going to be 2-3 years from now, once they start to turn over their D core.

All that being said you are right with regards to the draft picks. That's the downside of all of this. It's the hardest thing in sports as an owner or GM to sit back and not add to your team when you think you are almost there, it's just natural. But I really believe in the D men they have in the system, and I pray to god one of the goalies pans out. All that being said. Hamonic is a second pairing guy who still has 4-5 years of good hockey left and he has a reasonable cap hit. He's going to contribute to this team big time in the next few years.

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 20 @ 3:59 PM ET
I don't think so Tim. I knew this team would be a bubble team.

It would have been nice for this team to make the playoffs, but they would have got spanked in the first round.

- The-O-G


what led you to believe, based on this roster, that this team would be a bubble team.. How these guys are where they are at is baffling, IMO. You have, on paper, one of the best defenses in the league. You have a good, young, talented forward roster with a good mix of skill/grit/speed. I would say a major weakness would be that you have a hot/cold goalie, but to say that you always knew this team was bubble, I don't believe it.
StephenKalil
Calgary Flames
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 11.20.2013

Mar 20 @ 4:12 PM ET
Matt Duchene, Malkin, Jeff Carter. Couture..guys like that...
StephenKalil
Calgary Flames
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 11.20.2013

Mar 20 @ 4:25 PM ET
Agreed
- Nucker101

Today @ 4:12 PM ET
Matt Duchene for a few hun more than Backlund..., Malkin, Jeff Carter. Couture, Kadri, Braden Point, Barzel....guys like that...Backs is legit 3C...and maybe a 2AC in a pinch...
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 20 @ 4:51 PM ET
Today @ 4:12 PM ET
Matt Duchene for a few hun more than Backlund..., Malkin, Jeff Carter. Couture, Kadri, Braden Point, Barzel....guys like that...Backs is legit 3C...and maybe a 2AC in a pinch...

- StephenKalil


Malkin is a HOF’er stuck behind another one lol.

Barzal and Carter are legit #1 C’s stuck behind better ones.

I don’t think having Backlund as your 2LC is holding the team back at all. It’d be amazing to have him as a 3LC, but he’s perfectly fine as a 2LC. I can’t name 50 C’s who are clearly better than him. He’s a tier above a guy like Backes(Backes in his prime is a dif story).

The biggest issue is your crappy bottom 6 + over reliance on the Gio-Dougie pair with Hamonic-Brodie just not working out as hoped.
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