Noel Fogelman: Garth Madness - Championship

I voted for Hall, recognizing that it's unclear whether Garth ever even had the option of trading Hamonic for him. Just the fact that Garth did not explore that possibility was enough for me.

As I previously posted, the 15-year deal for DP was all Charles Wang and The Committee. Garth was not even the decision maker there.

thing is we never will know if we ever had a shot at getting hall......so DP deal was really bad

very surprised the whole rolston/pandolfo/reasoner thing never came up here. those mother(frank)ers were worthless by the time they showed up to the team

This final is a joke, one was never offered per staple and the other wasn't even snow. Neither should count so therefore Ladd wins

https://thehockeywriters....o-rangers-option/?ref=yfp

Is everyone ready to get their Rangers' Tavares jerseys?

This final is a joke, one was never offered per staple and the other wasn't even snow. Neither should count so therefore Ladd wins
- Upstate_isles

This final is a joke, one was never offered per staple and the other wasn't even snow. Neither should count so therefore Ladd wins
- Upstate_isles

None of it is going to matter when "Losing John Tavares for nothing" drives an Abrams tank through the front door, mercilessly steamrolling over all the prior competitors and leaving behind a trail of blood, tears, and agony

None of it is going to matter when "Losing John Tavares for nothing" drives an Abrams tank through the front door, mercilessly steamrolling over all the prior competitors and leaving behind a trail of blood, tears, and agony
- eichiefs9

So basically, what Snow has already to done to Isles fans.

This final is a joke, one was never offered per staple and the other wasn't even snow. Neither should count so therefore Ladd wins
- Upstate_isles

Staple said he was offered and later backpeddled. Someone posted something last week proving it with his tweet. I guess you just choose to ignore that and believe he wasn't offered because of why?

Gaines posted it on the last thread go read it.
Nevermind here you go
https://twitter.com/Stape...status/966455977208934405

Gaines posted it on the last thread go read it.
Nevermind here you go
https://twitter.com/Stape...status/966455977208934405
- Upstate_isles

Yeah that goes against his original tweet which said hall was offered and snow refused which was posted by dedshark I believe? Literally said that. It had nothing to do with wording. That's what it said verbatim. Now you believe Staple when hes obviously backpeddling?

None of it is going to matter when "Losing John Tavares for nothing" drives an Abrams tank through the front door, mercilessly steamrolling over all the prior competitors and leaving behind a trail of blood, tears, and agony
- eichiefs9

There's always Bailey

There's always Bailey
- SRam19

I reported this by accident.

https://thehockeywriters.com/tavares-to-rangers-option/?ref=yfp

Is everyone ready to get their Rangers' Tavares jerseys?
- JohnScammo

I love the part about JT can be Messier. JT is not even close. Messier never would have put up with a coach like Cappy or GM like Garth.

Yeah that goes against his original tweet which said hall was offered and snow refused which was posted by dedshark I believe? Literally said that. It had nothing to do with wording. That's what it said verbatim. Now you believe Staple when hes obviously backpeddling?
- Cptmjl

Believe what you want someone asked him about the original and he explained it. Idc what you believe that's what he said take him at his word

Believe what you want someone asked him about the original and he explained it. Idc what you believe that's what he said take him at his word
- Upstate_isles

Take him at which word? Which one are you referring too?

There's no misunderstanding the guy literally said he rejected the offer. You're just choosing to believe his backpedaling bs couldn't be more obvious he's helping wipe the egg off Snow's face.

Christ, even Newsday stopped their comments section because they couldn't handle the negativity

I love the part about JT can be Messier. JT is not even close. Messier never would have put up with a coach like Cappy or GM like Garth.
- ses111

Messier had a damn good 2-way game..........and leadership qualities. If Ranger fans think they're getting the next Messier for their $12 million cap hit, they will be in for some disappointment.

Messier had a damn good 2-way game..........and leadership qualities. If Ranger fans think they're getting the next Messier for their $12 million cap hit, they will be in for some disappointment.
- JohnScammo

This is not to knock JT, but it's an insult to even mention JT with Messier. Messier had impact in so many ways that JT does not.

Take him at which word? Which one are you referring too?

There's no misunderstanding the guy literally said he rejected the offer. You're just choosing to believe his backpedaling bs couldn't be more obvious he's helping wipe the egg off Snow's face.

Christ, even Newsday stopped their comments section because they couldn't handle the negativity
- Cptmjl

Ok well during the whole deal the people in Edmonton also said it wasnt an option but I suppose they are just making it up too

Ok well during the whole deal the people in Edmonton also said it wasnt an option but I suppose they are just making it up too
- Upstate_isles

What people in Edmonton? The oiler fans on hockeybuzz ? The article last week was an Edmonton journal article with staples direct quotes in it contradicting what he's saying now. Christ, even their sources verified it. Did you not read the article last week that was posted on here? You posted under it multiple times not sure how you missed it?

What people in Edmonton? The oiler fans on hockeybuzz ? The article last week was an Edmonton journal article with staples direct quotes in it contradicting what he's saying now. Christ, even their sources verified it. Did you not read the article last week that was posted on here? You posted under it multiple times not sure how you missed it?
- Cptmjl

Dont read every link on here

Messier had a damn good 2-way game..........and leadership qualities. If Ranger fans think they're getting the next Messier for their $12 million cap hit, they will be in for some disappointment.
- JohnScammo

Well Messier had a pretty dam good supporting cast around him in Edmonton and New York.

In NY he had a hell of a d man in Leach, a goal tender that was terrific in Richter to start. Give JT the assets around him like Messier had he would be a lot better and quite honestly he's a great Hockey player and you guys are taking him for granted.

The biggest disappointment unfortunately will be when he leaves The Islanders for nothing followed by the Rangers ( if he goes there ) kicking our ass with him in a couple years and being a true contender for the Stanley Cup while we wallow in mediocrity.

Well Messier had a pretty dam good supporting cast around him in Edmonton and New York.

In NY he had a hell of a d man in Leach, a goal tender that was terrific in Richter to start. Give JT the assets around him like Messier had he would be a lot better and quite honestly he's a great Hockey player and you guys are taking him for granted.

The biggest disappointment unfortunately when he leaves The Islanders for nothing followed by the Rangers kicking our ass with him in a couple years and being a true contender for the Stanley Cup while we wallow in mediocrity.
- nyisles7

If he goes to the rangers I may stop watching hockey. if he walks for free and snow is not fired I will stop and just follow D1

Well Messier had a pretty dam good supporting cast around him in Edmonton and New York.

In NY he had a hell of a d man in Leach, a goal tender that was terrific in Richter to start. Give JT the assets around him like Messier had he would be a lot better and quite honestly he's a great Hockey player and you guys are taking him for granted.

The biggest disappointment unfortunately when he leaves The Islanders for nothing followed by the Rangers kicking our ass with him in a couple years and being a true contender for the Stanley Cup while we wallow in mediocrity.
- nyisles7

Messier had a great supporting cast but with that said messier was a superbly clutch player. Save for one series Tavares has proven to be otherwise and has proved it once again this season. I'm not taking Tavares for granted I like him and want him to stay just like the next guy but he hasn't exactly risen to the occasion when needed multiple times.