Ryan Wilson: Penguins trade targets pros and cons Penguins trade targets pros and cons

possession wise Grabner stinks because he only has the puck for a few seconds while on a breakaway then he shoots it and gives up possession

I could see maybe a Grabner or Ryan trade working out. I can't see any of the others mentioned having a net positive impact on the team. The team would have to free up lots of cap space for some of the other guys mentioned (and I don't think they are worth it).

Yes on Brassard and Pouliot. Grabner for the right price, but I don't want to pay what NY is apparently asking.

Plekanek would be a great 3C. He's been miscast on a bad Canadiens team as a 2C, and while he's not a "shutdown" type of player, he's a very decent two-way player and can hounds the opposition's key player(s).

He's making $6m this year and the cost will be somewhat high, but if they can make it work financially without giving up a roster player/Sprong, I'd do it.

To tell you the truth, I have no interest in expending assets on a wing unless we move Sheary for Brassard. I also have no interest in moving Sheary for anything less than Brassard.

If no Brassard, find a way to fit Ryan or Plekanik under the cap without moving Sprong and its a successful deadline, IMO.

Trading for a rental winger at this point would be an absolute waste of assets, especially after playing the waiting game up to this point. I also don't understand why there's a need for one, considering we're loaded with wingers and have Sprong in the AHL.

Brassard though, I want that to happen. We're dead in the water if anything happens to 87, 71 or 15. Rowney, McKegg and Dea have proven they're not reliable. So if we're going to use a First rounder and Sprong in a trade, might as well be for something we desperately need. I believe I saw a rumor that OTT wants a prospect goalie and we have Filip Gustavsson who prob won't be ready inside our closing cup run.

Side note, NYR being sellers how come we haven't heard anything about Kevin Hayes. I feel like he'd fit our needs fairly well... is it bc he's 25 RFA?

kane (50% retained) for sheary, sprong and a 1st.

Even though I’d like Grabner here, I personally have no real interest in bringing in another winger. Yes, a depth move would be nice, but not necessary especially if the Pens add someone on the level of Brassard or Plekanec.

I think the Pens, when fully healthy, have a plethora of options and when you upgrade the 3C, it opens up more options.

Jake-Sid-Rust
Hags-Geno-Horn
Sheary-Brassard-Kessel
Simon-Sheahan-ZAR
Reaves and Kuhn

You have a lot of talent all over. At most, after adding Brass or Plek, I’d trade for Pouliot.

kane (50% retained) for sheary, sprong and a 1st.
- Pukeboy768

Unnecessary, IMO.

kane (50% retained) for sheary, sprong and a 1st.
- Pukeboy768

Giving up Sprong and a 1st is lunacy for a rental. They can have Sheary for free IMO.

Edit... My opinion on Sheary has now officially been backed up by Bob Grove.

kane (50% retained) for sheary, sprong and a 1st.
- Pukeboy768

Yeah, no.

Giving up Sprong and a 1st is lunacy for a rental. They can have Sheary for free IMO.

Edit... My opinion on Sheary has now officially been backed up by Bob Grove.
- madmike71

late first rounders are a crap shoot anyways...and in order to get you gotta give...

Giving up Sprong and a 1st is lunacy for a rental. They can have Sheary for free IMO.

Edit... My opinion on Sheary has now officially been backed up by Bob Grove.
- madmike71

Bob Grove can kiss my ass.

As others have alluded to , wingers shouldn't be a concern here at all. If they want to add one for a cheap cost, fine, go for it but sending out 1sts and roster players for rental wingers? No thanks.

Trading for a rental winger at this point would be an absolute waste of assets, especially after playing the waiting game up to this point. I also don't understand why there's a need for one, considering we're loaded with wingers and have Sprong in the AHL.

Brassard though, I want that to happen. We're dead in the water if anything happens to 87, 71 or 15. Rowney, McKegg and Dea have proven they're not reliable. So if we're going to use a First rounder and Sprong in a trade, might as well be for something we desperately need. I believe I saw a rumor that OTT wants a prospect goalie and we have Filip Gustavsson who prob won't be ready inside our closing cup run.

Side note, NYR being sellers how come we haven't heard anything about Kevin Hayes. I feel like he'd fit our needs fairly well... is it bc he's 25 RFA?
- WVPensFan22

This is my main reason for wanting him. As the Pens are currently structured they could go all the way without any additions at all...if they stay healthy.... they're a better team right now than the one that won the cup last June...

As others have alluded to , wingers shouldn't be a concern here at all. If they want to add one for a cheap cost, fine, go for it but sending out 1sts and roster players for rentals? No thanks.
- MattStrat

Agreed. We're strong enough that we don't need to expend major assets for rentals and moving a rostered winger for another winger is too lateral of a move to justify expending the other assets to get Kane, unless that rostered winger is Kuhnhackl or Reaves.

I'm open to hockey trades with Sheary, but it has to be the right hockey trade.

Bob Grove can kiss my ass.
- jmatchett383

I'll let him know. I can't imagine him taking you up on the offer.

There just might never be a more accurate use of the term 'cheapskate' than to describe the Nutting-like owner of the hockey Senators !

I think the Pens interest in Grabner is as much about pk as even strength. If they were to bench Kuhnhackl and Rowney while adding Brassard, they might feel they need a trusted penalty killer beyond Hags, Sheahan, and Rust. They have guys who have done a little, but maybe don't trust it.

Brassard doesn't kill penalties. Plekanec does. Plekanec is a great fall back option to me, but I want to go for Brassard. I just don't see Grabner as being worth the premium.

Count me in the crowd who doesn't think a wing will make a huge difference, but a center can.

I think the Pens interest in Grabner is as much about pk as even strength. If they were to bench Kuhnhackl and Rowney while adding Brassard, they might feel they need a trusted penalty killer beyond Hags, Sheahan, and Rust. They have guys who have done a little, but maybe don't trust it.

Brassard doesn't kill penalties. Plekanec does. Plekanec is a great fall back option to me, but I want to go for Brassard. I just don't see Grabner as being worth the premium.
- Tojo.

Either would be good. I like the idea of Grabner more for his speed than anything. Him on a line with Hags would give teams fits.

Either would be good. I like the idea of Grabner more for his speed than anything. Him on a line with Hags would give teams fits.
- Rinosaur

Yeah, he fits well, but at a rumored 1st or a 2nd plus a young roster player no thanks. More a luxury than someone who really boosts their Cup chances.

I'll let him know. I can't imagine him taking you up on the offer.
- madmike71

My ass is immaculate.

Edit: Ron Cook can kiss my ass. Apologies to Bob Grove.

The "Kane" referred to above better be Patrick Kane.

Wouldn't want the other one here even if he cost nothing to acquire.

Any interest in Artem Anisimov?

3yrs left at 4.5mil