GARTH'S CORNER: Reinstone

Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Oh my god. Delusional doesn't even begin to describe it. Thanks for the laugh

Wow

You spend most of the article saying reinhart isn't worth a long term deal and then say they should be able to get a good return for him. How you would think that any team would pay anything for the sabres goalies is laughable.

I read this the whole way through because the beginning was an honest evaluation of Reinhart. I just don't understand how you can jump from that evaluation to thinking that he'd get that type of return. Is contradictory.

Reinhart, Risto and next years first for Karlsson

Lehner for anyone

Why would anyone give up a premium prospect and a pick for a guy that can't even stay in the top 6 on One of the worse teams in the league. At this point he is barely worth a late 1st pick.

Why would anyone give up a premium prospect and a pick for a guy that can't even stay in the top 6 on One of the worse teams in the league. At this point he is barely worth a late 1st pick.
- VT001

I would trade Reinhart for a late first rounder with no hesitation. I feel his value has slipped beyond that now.

Reinhart has decent size. His problem isn't lack of strength to win puck battles. His problem is he is a below average NHL skater. He's S L O W.

Garth, go read Bucky's column today. Reality vs fantasy

ALL, all, A L L roster player should be open to discussion. The more games that are played, the less their value drops. STOP CHEERLEADING. This team is SO bad that the tank teams, with literally half the talent, competed better than this group. Yes, Garfh, if you can move patron saint, anointed savior GMJE to improve the team 3 years down the road, you DO IT. The only one who IS safe, is Botteril, because he has made the Amerks winners in half a season. You don't touch anyone there, you don't bring anyone up from there prematurely, but EVERYONE on the Buffalo roster is available, and passive Phil gets the ax the day after the season ends.

I would trade Reinhart for a late first rounder with no hesitation. I feel his value has slipped beyond that now.
- doppelthat

Very similar to when we had Sven Baertche. 13th overall & high hopes when we got him but when expectations sour with both team & player, all we got was a mid 2nd rounder for him & Treliving said he was trying to shop him for awhile. As it turns out you move on, we drafted Rasmus Andersson & he is looking like the next blue-chip pushing to make our lineup. Reinhart may get a late first but likely & only because of perceived pedigree he will get maybe 2 2nds or a 2nd & a A-/B+ prospect.

I am still waiting for the blog: "Kane4Kane: Why an Evander for Patrick swap makes sense for both teams and how the Blackhawks can sweeten the deal to make it happen"

Very similar to when we had Sven Baertche. 13th overall & high hopes when we got him but when expectations sour with both team & player, all we got was a mid 2nd rounder for him & Treliving said he was trying to shop him for awhile. As it turns out you move on, we drafted Rasmus Andersson & he is looking like the next blue-chip pushing to make our lineup. Reinhart may get a late first but likely & only because of perceived pedigree he will get maybe 2 2nds or a 2nd & a A-/B+ prospect.
- Kevin R

No not really

So if you packaged Reinhart and Kane they'd be a least worth the entire Carolina Franchise?

Reino won’t be getting “premium assets in return” unless he just goes on a tear for the last half of the season. He’s actually been Sabres second best player behind Eichel since the new year has come in. If he continues this he could get a decent return. I wouldn’t say anything like 2 assets coming. Maybe a late first, maybe a decent prospect. Won’t be both though.

Very similar to when we had Sven Baertche. 13th overall & high hopes when we got him but when expectations sour with both team & player, all we got was a mid 2nd rounder for him & Treliving said he was trying to shop him for awhile. As it turns out you move on, we drafted Rasmus Andersson & he is looking like the next blue-chip pushing to make our lineup. Reinhart may get a late first but likely & only because of perceived pedigree he will get maybe 2 2nds or a 2nd & a A-/B+ prospect.
- Kevin R

Nowhere near the same situation lol...

Look up Reinhart’s first two seasons in Buffalo compare those to Baertschi’s entire Flames career. Nowhere near the same situation. Give that head a shake

I would trade Reinhart for a late first rounder with no hesitation. I feel his value has slipped beyond that now.
- doppelthat

I wouldn’t. Good player that’s been centreing a 3rd line with AHL players on it. Housley hasn’t remotely used any player right besides Kane. Now he’s even taken Kane off Eichel’s wing when the trade deadline little more than a month away.

Guy was the popular choice for HC but clearly he can’t coach an entire team in the bigs just yet. Fingers crossed that Quenville gets the axe and we pick up the second best coach in hockey.

Reinhart, Risto and next years first for Karlsson

Lehner for anyone
- doctordizzle

Nope....

No need for a $14 mill contract on this team.

Nowhere near the same situation lol...

Look up Reinhart’s first two seasons in Buffalo compare those to Baertschi’s entire Flames career. Nowhere near the same situation. Give that head a shake
- Jammerz04

Soooo you're saying Reinhart is worth a lot more? 13th overall versus 2nd overall, although one may debate Reinhart shouldn't have gone 2nd. Still, Baertche showed way more in junior than Reinhart & Baertche is actually establishing himself as top 6 on Vancouver. Reality is, the kid may not have the ceiling as expected at 2nd overall. You either take a late 1st round or a 2nd & a decent prospect & run, or stick with the kid & develop him into a very good 3rd line centre & there is nothing wrong with that. It's just he isn't the reason why the team is another lotto pick. But no GM is going to throw a bouquet of value for a struggling high end prospect & solve your problems, they throw you anchors.

You spent the first part of your article basically writing all the negatives of Samson and then turn around and say JB will get a premium return..


are you really this dumb or just play the part?

Botterill has players that other teams covet in Samson Reinhart, Evander Kane, Robin Lehner, Chad Johnson, Zemgus Girgensons, Benny Pouliot, Marco Scandella, Johan Larsson, Jordan Nolan, and Nathan Beaulieu.

Gee, with a treasure trove of assets like this that other teams 'covet', why are the Sabres in 30th place with the worst offence in the league?

Let's consider each 'asset' individually in terms of a return in a trade:

Samson Reinhart - a similar younger player that is also more suspect than a 'prospect'.
Evander Kane - low end 1st round pick and a decent prospect for a pending FA who's scoring has tailed off.
Robin Lehner - 3rd - 4th round pick for a guy that has some ability, but also hasn't proven that he can be a No. 1.
Chad Johnson - low draft pick for a career backup. 6 organisations in an 8-year career tells you all you need to know.
Zemgus Girgensons - mid round pick for a guy with limited scoring ability.
Benny Pouliot - low round pick or a similar bottom 6 player. 7 organisations in a 12-year career tells you he's pretty expendable.
Marco Scandella - probably worth keeping at the point given the state of the Buffalo defence.
Johan Larsson - not much more than a low round draft pick.
Jordan Nolan - waiver wire.
Nathan Beaulieu - Montreal moved him out of town for a reason. In less than a half of season his value went from a 3rd round lick to a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick or similar 5th, 6th, 7th d-man in the rotation.

This is hardly the stuff to restock a team with a treasure trove of assets.

samson for sam morin plus a pick/mid level prospect.

Botterill has players that other teams covet in Samson Reinhart, Evander Kane, Robin Lehner, Chad Johnson, Zemgus Girgensons, Benny Pouliot, Marco Scandella, Johan Larsson, Jordan Nolan, and Nathan Beaulieu.

Gee, with a treasure trove of assets like this that other teams 'covet', why are the Sabres in 30th place with the worst offence in the league?

Let's consider each 'asset' individually in terms of a return in a trade:

Samson Reinhart - a similar younger player that is also more suspect than a 'prospect'.
Evander Kane - low end 1st round pick and a decent prospect for a pending FA who's scoring has tailed off.
Robin Lehner - 3rd - 4th round pick for a guy that has some ability, but also hasn't proven that he can be a No. 1.
Chad Johnson - low draft pick for a career backup. 6 organisations in an 8-year career tells you all you need to know.
Zemgus Girgensons - mid round pick for a guy with limited scoring ability.
Benny Pouliot - low round pick or a similar bottom 6 player. 7 organisations in a 12-year career tells you he's pretty expendable.
Marco Scandella - probably worth keeping at the point given the state of the Buffalo defence.
Johan Larsson - not much more than a low round draft pick.
Jordan Nolan - waiver wire.
Nathan Beaulieu - Montreal moved him out of town for a reason. In less than a half of season his value went from a 3rd round lick to a 4th, 5th or 6th round pick or similar 5th, 6th, 7th d-man in the rotation.

This is hardly the stuff to restock a team with a treasure trove of assets.
- The Looper

Fair assessment of the Sabres tradable “assets”

Jesus....go back to selling insurance or whatever the hell you do when you're not trying to be a blogger for this sorry excuse of a hockey site....you are (frank)ing pathetic

gARfFF??

are you really tanner too? who else would offer 2 1sts and samsonov for kane?