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Bill Meltzer
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Dec 16 @ 8:34 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 12/16/17 @ DAL
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 16 @ 8:40 AM ET
I'm usually cynical about some of the things the Flyers marketing folks do, but I do like the light show idea.

The light show at Macy's (nee Wanamaker's) downtown is a great, old tradition and now City Hall is doing a light show as well.

I just hope the Flyers play well so the fans don't huck their bracelets onto the ice.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 16 @ 8:50 AM ET
I'm usually cynical about some of the things the Flyers marketing folks do, but I do like the light show idea.

The light show at Macy's (nee Wanamaker's) downtown is a great, old tradition and now City Hall is doing a light show as well.

I just hope the Flyers play well so the fans don't huck their bracelets onto the ice.

- johndewar



A couple bad calls and those bracelets will be flying onto the ice.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 16 @ 9:10 AM ET
4 points out of a playoff spot on December 16th doesn't sound like a lot, but sadly, it is. When you factor in the need to pass 2 teams in the Metro and all the likely 3 point games between those clubs, making up a 4 point difference is harder than it looks.

It's far from impossible, but the Flyers will need to stay healthy and probably pick up a minimum of 61-64 points in their last 51 games to get that last spot.

I'll be very impressed if they can pull that off.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 16 @ 9:11 AM ET
A couple bad calls and those bracelets will be flying onto the ice.
- landros 2


This is our concern, Dude.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 16 @ 9:13 AM ET
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 16 @ 9:24 AM ET

- MBFlyerfan


No true Philadelphian would waste a soft pretzel like that, besides, batteries have a much better chance of actually knocking the refs out!


edit: this post in no way endorses throwing any objects onto the playing surface. However, if you hit Dale Weise and put him on LTIR, well, no one will really be that upset.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Dec 16 @ 9:41 AM ET

4 points out of a playoff spot on December 16th doesn't sound like a lot, but sadly, it is. When you factor in the need to pass 2 teams in the Metro and all the likely 3 point games between those clubs, making up a 4 point difference is harder than it looks.

It's far from impossible, but the Flyers will need to stay healthy and probably pick up a minimum of 61-64 points in their last 51 games to get that last spot.

I'll be very impressed if they can pull that off.
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 16 @ 9:42 AM ET
edit: this post in no way endorses throwing any objects onto the playing surface. However, if you hit Dale Weise and put him on LTIR, well, no one will really be that upset.


- BiggE


Man, that's cold!
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Dec 16 @ 9:45 AM ET
It's far from impossible, but the Flyers will need to stay healthy and probably pick up a minimum of 61-64 points in their last 51 games to get that last spot.

- BiggE


Yeah, 94 points could get them in and each point more improves those chances. They can absolutely do it as they are just 1.5 games out at the moment with lots of time left. They can't fall back any as those 3 point games makes it tougher to catch up but I expect this team to play better as the season rolls on which should translate into increased point production.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Dec 16 @ 9:52 AM ET
4 points out of a playoff spot on December 16th doesn't sound like a lot, but sadly, it is. When you factor in the need to pass 2 teams in the Metro and all the likely 3 point games between those clubs, making up a 4 point difference is harder than it looks.

It's far from impossible, but the Flyers will need to stay healthy and probably pick up a minimum of 61-64 points in their last 51 games to get that last spot.

I'll be very impressed if they can pull that off.

- BiggE


Helps they have a lot of metro games left. Makes the road a little more direct. Notice I didn't say easier.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 16 @ 9:57 AM ET
Yeah, 94 points could get them in and each point more improves those chances. They can absolutely do it as they are just 1.5 games out at the moment with lots of time left. They can't fall back any as those 3 point games makes it tougher to catch up but I expect this team to play better as the season rolls on which should translate into increased point production.
- fls13


How are you calculating the 1.5 games?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 16 @ 10:19 AM ET
Yeah, 94 points could get them in and each point more improves those chances. They can absolutely do it as they are just 1.5 games out at the moment with lots of time left. They can't fall back any as those 3 point games makes it tougher to catch up but I expect this team to play better as the season rolls on which should translate into increased point production.
- fls13


The key will be staying healthy. They just don't have the depth to withstand any key injuries right now. Looking at the Metro, I think Washington and Columbus are sure bets to be in and I just can't see the Pens not finding a way to make it. That means the Flyers will have to pass at least two of the Rags, Isles or Devils to make it. Gonna be tough, doable, but tough.
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Dec 16 @ 10:20 AM ET
How are you calculating the 1.5 games?
- MJL


Four points behind the Rags and Fishsticks with a game in hand on both.
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Dec 16 @ 10:25 AM ET
The key will be staying healthy. They just don't have the depth to withstand any key injuries right now. Looking at the Metro, I think Washington and Columbus are sure bets to be in and I just can't see the Pens not finding a way to make it. That means the Flyers will have to pass at least two of the Rags, Isles or Devils to make it. Gonna be tough, doable, but tough.
- BiggE


Yeah, the lack of depth and not being able to get out of slumps for too long are the two issues for the Flyers. They can't withstand another slump and make it. I think this team is as good as or better than the Fishsticks and the Rags are a team in decline. I haven't seen enough of the Devils but they're getting results.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 16 @ 10:37 AM ET
Four points behind the Rags and Fishsticks with a game in hand on both.
- fls13


Doesn't account for 3 point games. 2.5 would probably be more representative.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
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Dec 16 @ 10:45 AM ET
Doesn't account for 3 point games. 2.5 would probably be more representative.
- MJL


I don't pay much attention to games in hand, you still have to win those games for it to matter.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 16 @ 10:47 AM ET
I don't pay much attention to games in hand, you still have to win those games for it to matter.
- BiggE



I agree. I think it goes to what you alluded to earlier. With the points system in the league, you're further behind than it seems. Although I think the basic premise of even with the 10 game losing streak they're not by any means out of it.
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Dec 16 @ 10:48 AM ET
Doesn't account for 3 point games.
- MJL


Neither does the current format for calculating the standings. If you're a point behind a team but have four games in hand, it seems silly to me to list them lower in the standings.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Dec 16 @ 11:10 AM ET
Neither does the current format for calculating the standings. If you're a point behind a team but have four games in hand, it seems silly to me to list them lower in the standings.
- fls13

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 16 @ 11:15 AM ET
Neither does the current format for calculating the standings. If you're a point behind a team but have four games in hand, it seems silly to me to list them lower in the standings.
- fls13


Sure it does, it's a points based system. You can't give a team points that haven't been earned. They could lose all 4 games.

2.5 games back would be more representative.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 16 @ 11:19 AM ET

- Giroux_Is_God

fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Dec 16 @ 11:19 AM ET
2.5 games back would be more representative.
- MJL


Then you would need to come up with a formula that gets that result.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 16 @ 11:21 AM ET
Then you would need to come up with a formula that gets that result.
- fls13


No formula is needed. The NHL standings are the NHL standings. That's what I go by. The point is that according to past history, 3 point games are a much bigger influence on the standings ultimately than games in hand which will fluctuate up and down and eventually even up.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 16 @ 11:24 AM ET
Crazy that I was just able to get a pair of tickets for Monday, upstairs of course, for 6.50/each. Sheesh
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