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What’s up with Trouba? Every time I have watched him this year he’s looked rough

What’s up with Trouba? Every time I have watched him this year he’s looked rough
- sbroads24

I hear ya. He's been average at best this year. Too much nose candy perhaps?

We should trade Trouba while his value is high!

Trouba for Tavares

Agreed, Trouba seem to struggle last night and I thought he struggled in the last game as well.

Nice to see Mason trending the right direction, the best two players on the ice last night were Mason and Quick. It was an entertaining game to watch and Mason looked so calm in the net. He was really finding the puck through traffic and looked confident. Nice to see him shut the game 1 & 2 critics up!! (I was one of them) But seriously, good to see him trending the right direction and now its 4 goals in three games?? 37 saves last night! I like goaltenders fighting for the net!!

We should trade Trouba while his value is high!

Trouba for Tavares
- TheUltimateJet

I assume you are joking because Tavares is a free agent soon and we cant afford to sign him. He only has value to us as a rental....one that can win us the cup if the right deal is done.

Agreed, Trouba seem to struggle last night and I thought he struggled in the last game as well.

Nice to see Mason trending the right direction, the best two players on the ice last night were Mason and Quick. It was an entertaining game to watch and Mason looked so calm in the net. He was really finding the puck through traffic and looked confident. Nice to see him shut the game 1 & 2 critics up!! (I was one of them) But seriously, good to see him trending the right direction and now its 4 goals in three games?? 37 saves last night! I like goaltenders fighting for the net!!
- CharlieDog

Also nice to have two different goaltending styles on the Jets. Mason is quicker and more athletic ( and plays the puck a lot more) while Helle is more Ken Dryden positional using his big frame to do the job. Last three games by Mason have been excellent. I think the Jets now have an excellent goaltending duo. Combine that with the very strong third and fourth lines we now have and things are looking "pretty pretty....pretty good "

I believe you will see Matthais or Dano to play on either Friday or Saturday in place of Hendricks ( to give him a well-deserved rest) . Its possible you might also see Poolman sub in one of those two games for Chariot.

Edit : Contract extensions, etc. Helle just got a lot more expensive. Trouba somewhat cheaper. I think Laine a touch cheaper. Tanev , Lowry, Armia, Morrissey are all RFA's so they have limited bargaining power but Tanev and maybe Morrissey have earned larger contracts than they would have got 6 months ago.

Trouba’s play this year has been merely very good. Last year? He was elite, top 5 in the league even, and crushed his contract-compatible competition.
This year he almost seems disinterested, which is weird. His contract is coming up, all he had to do for a 7x7 was keep rolling along, and Byfuglien is aging out of the top spot. Get it moving, Trouba.

On another note, if we trade Trouba, this possible dynasty is dead in the water. Byfuglien is in decline, Myers can’t play a top 4 role anymore, and Poolman shouldn’t have to walk into that kind of pressure. We also don’t have any righties coming in any time soon. Niku is the best D prospect, and he’s likely future Toby already.

Trouba’s play this year has been merely very good. Last year? He was elite, top 5 in the league even, and crushed his contract-compatible competition.
This year he almost seems disinterested, which is weird. His contract is coming up, all he had to do for a 7x7 was keep rolling along, and Byfuglien is aging out of the top spot. Get it moving, Trouba.

On another note, if we trade Trouba, this possible dynasty is dead in the water. Byfuglien is in decline, Myers can’t play a top 4 role anymore, and Poolman shouldn’t have to walk into that kind of pressure. We also don’t have any righties coming in any time soon. Niku is the best D prospect, and he’s likely future Toby already.
- Rexypoo

Odds are Trouba gets traded either this off season or next. I don't think the kid is irreplaceable by any means. He is not playing up to the level he displayed last season but yet the team is much better today. I would trade Trouba and a pick to AZ for Jakob Chychrun and their 2018 1st in a heartbeat.

Agree with Rexpoo, there is no way Trouba could be traded for a forward at this point because it would be disaster for the backside. If he really wants out of Wpg, it would have to be for another Dman like himself, right or left. Maybe winning makes hockey in Wpg a whole lot more fun. It is really about winning, right?

Maybe the statement that he appears to be struggling is a bit off, who knows if there is an aliment or an injury he is dealing with that is nagging him. I just thought he did not look as sharp as last year but I am not ready to trade him quite yet. He is a heck of a Dman, don't want to lose him unless you are getting a carbon copy back.

Trouba’s play this year has been merely very good. Last year? He was elite, top 5 in the league even, and crushed his contract-compatible competition.
This year he almost seems disinterested, which is weird. His contract is coming up, all he had to do for a 7x7 was keep rolling along, and Byfuglien is aging out of the top spot. Get it moving, Trouba.

On another note, if we trade Trouba, this possible dynasty is dead in the water. Byfuglien is in decline, Myers can’t play a top 4 role anymore, and Poolman shouldn’t have to walk into that kind of pressure. We also don’t have any righties coming in any time soon. Niku is the best D prospect, and he’s likely future Toby already.
- Rexypoo

Trouba is here for at least another year if the Jets want him to be. Either way the Jets are by no means " dead in the water" without him. Complete nonsense !

I'm pretty sure Chevy also said any trade will involve a like-minded defender. I would bet he wants out of Winnipeg though. I'd love to see Ek-Larsson on this team who has one year left following this one. Any trade of that type might involve both teams wanting new contracts signed before the deal was done though. Don't think Trouba would want to go to Arizona as opposed to out East. I'd also just love to get Ritsolainen ( who trains with Laine in Finland). I'm not sure what it would take to swing that deal though.

Trouba’s play this year has been merely very good. Last year? He was elite, top 5 in the league even, and crushed his contract-compatible competition.
This year he almost seems disinterested, which is weird. His contract is coming up, all he had to do for a 7x7 was keep rolling along, and Byfuglien is aging out of the top spot. Get it moving, Trouba.

On another note, if we trade Trouba, this possible dynasty is dead in the water. Byfuglien is in decline, Myers can’t play a top 4 role anymore, and Poolman shouldn’t have to walk into that kind of pressure. We also don’t have any righties coming in any time soon. Niku is the best D prospect, and he’s likely future Toby already.
- Rexypoo

Trouba is here for at least another year if the Jets want him to be. Either way the Jets are by no means " dead in the water" without him. Complete nonsense !

I'm pretty sure Chevy also said any trade will involve a like-minded defender. I would bet he wants out of Winnipeg though. I'd love to see Ek-Larsson on this team who has one year left following this one. Any trade of that type might involve both teams wanting new contracts signed before the deal was done though. Don't think Trouba would want to go to Arizona as opposed to out East. I'd also just love to get Ritsolainen ( who trains with Laine in Finland). I'm not sure what it would take to swing that deal though. It would cost us more than just Trouba for sure.

Solid solid execution from our boys last night ... Kings fought but could not overcome
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Mason - yes, it's great to have a reliable 1-2 punch in net ... let's erase the first two games this season from our memory
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Troubs - the challenge with him will be his agent ... Overhardt ? ... he's pulled more than a few stunts around the league now ... and yes, Troubs' play of late is questionable ... current level of play says he can be backfilled, right side, by a Poolman ... past play says we want to lock him up ... doesn't look like he's injured - looks like he's disinterested ... I'd be aiming for a strong centreman if he's labelled trade bait
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The bottom 6 has me overjoyed - who woulda thought they'd be doing this well when we signed Hendricks and gave Tanev more ice time ? .. not me
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Now - Little ... $5.3M for the next 6 yrs ... assume with NMC ? ... as of this moment I think we need to bring the kid Laine along a bit more - he has such scoring and set-up skills but somethings not clicking ... not sure I'd be be willing to bust up the 1st line and NO F_CKIN WAY do I wanna move Perrault off of the '4th line'

Another big win good on ya Jets...

Odds are Trouba gets traded either this off season or next. I don't think the kid is irreplaceable by any means. He is not playing up to the level he displayed last season but yet the team is much better today. I would trade Trouba and a pick to AZ for Jakob Chychrun and their 2018 1st in a heartbeat.
- BookemDano

I’d consider that deal, actually. You’re trading for potential, but still.

Trouba is here for at least another year if the Jets want him to be. Either way the Jets are by no means " dead in the water" without him. Complete nonsense !

I'm pretty sure Chevy also said any trade will involve a like-minded defender. I would bet he wants out of Winnipeg though. I'd love to see Ek-Larsson on this team who has one year left following this one. Any trade of that type might involve both teams wanting new contracts signed before the deal was done though. Don't think Trouba would want to go to Arizona as opposed to out East. I'd also just love to get Ritsolainen ( who trains with Laine in Finland). I'm not sure what it would take to swing that deal though.
- jetsnation

OEL would be a good one, although age is a slight concern.
Ristolainen is basically only useful on the powerplay. He makes Byfuglien look like Lidstrom with his defensive abilities. Risto might actually be bad enough in his own end to counter anything he can do offensively.
I go after Klefbom, personally. Trouba+Dano for Klefbom+pick of some variety

OEL would be a good one, although age is a slight concern.
Ristolainen is basically only useful on the powerplay. He makes Byfuglien look like Lidstrom with his defensive abilities. Risto might actually be bad enough in his own end to counter anything he can do offensively.
I go after Klefbom, personally. Trouba+Dano for Klefbom+pick of some variety
- Rexypoo

Klefbom's been worse than trouba this year, not a chance !!!

Klefbom's been worse than trouba this year, not a chance !!!
- Ross77

We’re talking about two elite Dmen that are still the best players in their team at their respective positions. Trouba and Klefbom haven’t been bad by any measure, simply not as good as they are capable of being.
Also, just find a way to keep Trouba, and move Myers for Klefbom. Imagine:
Morrissey-Trouba
Klefbom-Byfuglien
Enstrom-Poolman

Klefbom's been worse than trouba this year, not a chance !!!
- Ross77

Agreed. Klefbom.....yuck !.

Ritsolainen is young , he can log 27 minutes a game, he's physical, got something like 45-50 points last year, and did it all on Buffalo. This year the Sabres have lost just about every game since he left the lineup. He is -4 on a team that is -29. He plays on both the PP and the PK. Unfortunately for us he is likely untouchable in Buffalo but especially because of his very cap-freindly contract. It would be a gift if we got him for Trouba straight up . It would more likely take a Trouba + Chariot + a 2nd for him.

Pitt proved last year, you can win the Cup with underwhelming D who focus on D. We went on a nice run last year with spare parts on D, again, focusing on D. It's ok to have D with no offensive gifts if they do their job on the backend and you have a forward group who can score ( which we do )

If Trouba is going to be traded cause he wont sign here, there is a 85% chance it will be a forward coming back. Trades like Subban / Weber are very few and far between. All this means is Chevy will have to make a subsequent move where we trade a young forward ( Connor, Raslovic ) for an equal value young D.

I went to a few of the prospects practices this past summer and really liked what I saw from Glover. He will become a UFA if not signed by August but I hope we get that done, I saw something there. Samberg is getting great reviews and will likely be on the US Junior team this Christmas. Niku and Poolman can both play and I for one am not writing off a 19 year old Stanley yet. I don't think our future d is as bad as some make it out to be. There is no Bourque or Lindstrom coming up but like Pitt proved, you can win with just solid D playing D

Agreed. Klefbom.....yuck !.

Ritsolainen is young , he can log 27 minutes a game, he's physical, got something like 45-50 points last year, and did it all on Buffalo. This year the Sabres have lost just about every game since he left the lineup. He is -4 on a team that is -29. He plays on both the PP and the PK. Unfortunately for us he is likely untouchable in Buffalo but especially because of his very cap-freindly contract. It would be a gift if we got him for Trouba straight up . It would more likely take a Trouba + Chariot + a 2nd for him.
- jetsnation

Anyone can log 27 minutes per game. The problem is he logs waaaaaay to many shots and scoring chances against, even in comparison to his teammates.

P.S. Don’t use plus/minus.

Pitt proved last year, you can win the Cup with underwhelming D who focus on D. We went on a nice run last year with spare parts on D, again, focusing on D. It's ok to have D with no offensive gifts if they do their job on the backend and you have a forward group who can score ( which we do )

If Trouba is going to be traded cause he wont sign here, there is a 85% chance it will be a forward coming back. Trades like Subban / Weber are very few and far between. All this means is Chevy will have to make a subsequent move where we trade a young forward ( Connor, Raslovic ) for an equal value young D.

I went to a few of the prospects practices this past summer and really liked what I saw from Glover. He will become a UFA if not signed by August but I hope we get that done, I saw something there. Samberg is getting great reviews and will likely be on the US Junior team this Christmas. Niku and Poolman can both play and I for one am not writing off a 19 year old Stanley yet. I don't think our future d is as bad as some make it out to be. There is no Bourque or Lindstrom coming up but like Pitt proved, you can win with just solid D playing D
- Ross77

Can we move Trouba for Lindholm? Is that a thing we can do? We should do that thing. We also really don’t want a Subban for Weber deal, as that would mean trading Trouba for a player several years older, on a longer and more expensive deal, whom has been in decline for a few years already.

Anyone can log 27 minutes per game. The problem is he logs waaaaaay to many shots and scoring chances against, even in comparison to his teammates.

P.S. Don’t use plus/minus.
- Rexypoo

you realize the Sheifele line is a bottom 5 line in the NHL for shots and scoring chances against?

plus / minus is a tool like scoring chances and both have holes and both don't paint the full picture. guys who go all in on advanced stats are like Weatherman, rarely right but its never their fault when wrong.

if advanced stats were accurate the oilers and habs would be the top two teams in the league.

Can we move Trouba for Lindholm? Is that a thing we can do? We should do that thing. We also really don’t want a Subban for Weber deal, as that would mean trading Trouba for a player several years older, on a longer and more expensive deal, whom has been in decline for a few years already.
- Rexypoo

Anaheim wont do trouba for lindholm and I agree I also don't want a subban weber type deal.

Anyone can log 27 minutes per game. The problem is he logs waaaaaay to many shots and scoring chances against, even in comparison to his teammates.

P.S. Don’t use plus/minus.
- Rexypoo

You can try and create whatever statistic you want . Bottom line is there are usually at least two " untouchables" on any NHL franchise. Winnipeg probably has 4 or 5 right now. In Buffalo its Eichel and Ritsolainen and for good reason. In Winnipeg the obvious ones are Laine and Schiefele and I would think Wheeler , Connor , Ehlers , and probably Buff would also be on that list.