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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Nov 22 @ 11:23 AM ET
Todd Cordell: G21 New Jersey Devils vs Boston Bruins: Five things to watch
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 22 @ 11:32 AM ET
Todd Cordell: G21 New Jersey Devils vs Boston Bruins: Five things to watch
- Todd.Cordell

Actually, that’s exactly what the “relative” part stands for.
- smellmyfinger


I like this stance. When Karlsson's +/- is good, it doesn't matter. When it's bad, "He can't play defense!"

FAZOOL
New Jersey Devils
Location: Exit 80, NJ
Joined: 04.30.2012

Nov 22 @ 11:36 AM ET
Sucks for Palms, poor guy just cant stay healthy.
Any idea when Johansson is coming back?
😈 GIVE EM HELL DEVILS!! 😈
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Nov 22 @ 11:49 AM ET
I like this stance. When Karlsson's +/- is good, it doesn't matter. When it's bad, "He can't play defense!"


- tomburton99



You can have one Dman.

A great defensive player, with some snarl and well above average offensive skill like Doughty, or the best offensive Dman with good defensive play like Karlsson?

I gotta say, I'm probably in the minority but I'd lean Doughty.
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Nov 22 @ 11:52 AM ET
Feels like a trap game. We should win, they have a ton of injuries......and then we lay an egg. (hopefully not!) If we put a solid 60 into tonight's game we should be victorious. Go Devils!
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 22 @ 11:52 AM ET
You can have one Dman.

A great defensive player, with some snarl and well above average offensive skill like Doughty, or the best offensive Dman with good defensive play like Karlsson?

I gotta say, I'm probably in the minority but I'd lean Doughty.

- smellmyfinger

Both have won a Norris so really no wrong choice. But in terms of points per game for D-men playing at least 250 games, Karlsson is like 6th all time right now. He's been nothing short of great. And he still on the right side of 30.
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Nov 22 @ 11:53 AM ET
You can have one Dman.

A great defensive player, with some snarl and well above average offensive skill like Doughty, or the best offensive Dman with good defensive play like Karlsson?

I gotta say, I'm probably in the minority but I'd lean Doughty.

- smellmyfinger


Doughty too. Must be from being a Devils fan, we LOVE defense
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

Nov 22 @ 12:06 PM ET
You can have one Dman.

A great defensive player, with some snarl and well above average offensive skill like Doughty, or the best offensive Dman with good defensive play like Karlsson?

I gotta say, I'm probably in the minority but I'd lean Doughty.

- smellmyfinger



You've got company.

I'd go with Doughty too.

CaptCrankypants
New Jersey Devils
Location: None of your business
Joined: 04.27.2014

Nov 22 @ 12:10 PM ET
Karlsson and it's not even close for me. Karlsson is one of the best defensemen of all time.

That said, the ankle stuff worries me down the road. Long term I'd probably go Hedman.
CaptCrankypants
New Jersey Devils
Location: None of your business
Joined: 04.27.2014

Nov 22 @ 12:12 PM ET
Both have won a Norris so really no wrong choice. But in terms of points per game for D-men playing at least 250 games, Karlsson is like 6th all time right now. He's been nothing short of great. And he still on the right side of 30.
- tomburton99

Yeah, but Karlsson should've won that Norris trophy. He had a spectacular season and Doughty got it as a lifetime achievement award. Watch as Karlsson gets robbed again because of Pietrangelo.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Nov 22 @ 12:13 PM ET
Karlsson and it's not even close for me. Karlsson is one of the best defensemen of all time.

That said, the ankle stuff worries me down the road. Long term I'd probably go Hedman.

- CaptCrankypants



Hedman is a real solid pick too. Does everything well.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Nov 22 @ 12:14 PM ET
Feels like a trap game. We should win, they have a ton of injuries......and then we lay an egg. (hopefully not!) If we put a solid 60 into tonight's game we should be victorious. Go Devils!
- Crushers68



Yep, on paper this one is winnable. Watch us lose 1-0.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Nov 22 @ 12:16 PM ET
Yeah, but Karlsson should've won that Norris trophy. He had a spectacular season and Doughty got it as a lifetime achievement award. Watch as Karlsson gets robbed again because of Pietrangelo.
- CaptCrankypants



It's still early, but to be fair Pietrangelo is having an absolutely monster year.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Nov 22 @ 12:50 PM ET
What I think is a good defenseman and what others think is a good defenseman, and who I think is truly a #1 guy is best characterized with two players.

Erik Karlsson from 2015-2016, and Erik Karlsson from 2016-2017.

Erik Karlsson from 2016-2017 was a true #1 defenseman. It's not because of the change in his +/-, it's because of the passion he exuded. It only "reflected" in his +/-. He was better in his own end because he added grit to his game.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Nov 22 @ 1:45 PM ET
New lines

Hall zajac bratt
Henrique Nico gibbons
Zacha Coleman Hayes
Wood Boyle stafford
TRDevil
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toms River, NJ
Joined: 04.04.2014

Nov 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
Ugh heard the news. Major Face Palm(s)

shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Nov 22 @ 2:53 PM ET
2-1 broons


DOOMED
TRDevil
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toms River, NJ
Joined: 04.04.2014

Nov 22 @ 8:52 PM ET
2-1 broons


DOOMED

- shvingter88



I am not interested in that outcome.

3-2 Devils

is what I am looking for here
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Nov 22 @ 8:55 PM ET
I am not interested in that outcome.

3-2 Devils

is what I am looking for here

- TRDevil


testies crossed
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Nov 22 @ 9:31 PM ET
I am not interested in that outcome.

3-2 Devils

is what I am looking for here

- TRDevil



Gibbons going to get a real deal contract after this year.
TRDevil
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toms River, NJ
Joined: 04.04.2014

Nov 22 @ 9:59 PM ET
Up next... puck boy
TRDevil
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toms River, NJ
Joined: 04.04.2014

Nov 22 @ 10:00 PM ET
and puck boy wins it for the broons.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Nov 22 @ 10:28 PM ET
and puck boy wins it for the broons.
- TRDevil


3 players I've never heard of in that shootout