James Tanner: Coyotes Beat Maple Leafs to Keep Streak Alive

Horrendous call on the no-goal. Oh well, goes both ways throughout the course of the season

James Tanner: Coyotes Beat Maple Leafs to Keep Streak Alive
- James_Tanner

boy the coyotes are lucky

I thought the yotes owned the 3rd except for the last 5 minutes.

I don't want to argue the validity of the video review....but I really wish it wasn't the officials on the ice making that call. I just wish it was sent to head office for review. At least then there would be some consistency with the same group of eyes on each review rather than whoever is working the ice that game. Also, I doubt that standing on the ice surface with an 8" tablet and 20,000 people staring at you is the best way to try and get things done accurately.

No Caps blog JT?

I wonder who made that OEL trade up....

No Caps blog JT?
- DuranDuran

I hope to get one out soon.

We can agree to disagree on the no goal call. Hyman practically speared Raanta back into his net just as Matthews was circling around the net. There were two terrible non-calls on Toronto for tripping (Keller, who when he was tripped, Carrick stopped skating knowing he was going to get called and didn't and one on Domi not too long after that at center ice). My issue is that you never know what the refs are going to call with goalie interference. There is zero consistency what so ever which means we have to argue about this call.

It's nice to see some wins finally after the horrendous start, and with getting Hammer and Chycrun back we can finally get rid of that turnover machine Connauton. I'd be curious if they call up the entire line Strome is playing on as they are really scoring a ton (with Crous and Merkely). Things are slowly, slowly starting to trend in the right direction this season...

I'd have to watch it again, but not sure how they were outshot 10-1 when the Leafs hemmed them in their end for like 3 line changes before they flashed the 10-1 shot clock. Like most stats...I think they're paying a 10 yr kid minimum wage to count shots/hd scoring chances etc etc.

We can agree to disagree on the no goal call. Hyman practically speared Raanta back into his net just as Matthews was circling around the net. There were two terrible non-calls on Toronto for tripping (Keller, who when he was tripped, Carrick stopped skating knowing he was going to get called and didn't and one on Domi not too long after that at center ice). My issue is that you never know what the refs are going to call with goalie interference. There is zero consistency what so ever which means we have to argue about this call.

It's nice to see some wins finally after the horrendous start, and with getting Hammer and Chycrun back we can finally get rid of that turnover machine Connauton. I'd be curious if they call up the entire line Strome is playing on as they are really scoring a ton (with Crous and Merkely). Things are slowly, slowly starting to trend in the right direction this season...
- gmiel1980

I agree, good call on the "no goal"

The one thing that fans of any team can agree on...when calls aren't in their favour, the refs are obviously biased/incompetent.

We all watch the game for the infractions that go our way, and often gloss over anything else, simply because we're not watching for them. Is what it is. On that note, however, the war room is equally as bad for missing calls as on ice refs. So saying it should/shouldn't go to the war room is just hoping for a more favourable outcome, nothing more.

Only won because of a brutal call on the goal they scored, and also what was the diff on powerplays? 10-1. The win is all smoke and mirrors..

We can agree to disagree on the no goal call. Hyman practically speared Raanta back into his net just as Matthews was circling around the net. There were two terrible non-calls on Toronto for tripping (Keller, who when he was tripped, Carrick stopped skating knowing he was going to get called and didn't and one on Domi not too long after that at center ice). My issue is that you never know what the refs are going to call with goalie interference. There is zero consistency what so ever which means we have to argue about this call.

It's nice to see some wins finally after the horrendous start, and with getting Hammer and Chycrun back we can finally get rid of that turnover machine Connauton. I'd be curious if they call up the entire line Strome is playing on as they are really scoring a ton (with Crous and Merkely). Things are slowly, slowly starting to trend in the right direction this season...
- gmiel1980

As Hyman was skating to the net, his stick was away from Raanta, OEL backs up into his stick with his rear end which knocks Hymans stick back as Fischer knocks him towards the goalie. AFTER that Raanta has plenty of time to square up and be ready for the shot.

I call BS, but whatever I'm over it and ready for Florida tmrw.

As Hyman was skating to the net, his stick was away from Raanta, OEL backs up into his stick with his rear end which knocks Hymans stick back as Fischer knocks him towards the goalie. AFTER that Raanta has plenty of time to square up and be ready for the shot.

I call BS, but whatever I'm over it and ready for Florida tmrw.
- LeafGuy89

I'm sure the coach is thrilled you're good to go.

They will also be adding the AHL's best player, and most likely the best player not currently in the NHL, Dylan Strome, sometime very soon.

You have to stop writing this kind of stuff (if I recall you have done it before). There are much better players in europe than Dylan Strome.

I'm sure the coach is thrilled you're good to go.
- Darksyde

Haha you know what I mean :D

You have to stop writing this kind of stuff (if I recall you have done it before). There are much better players in europe than Dylan Strome.
- Cloud

Like who? There are conceivably many european / kHL vets who could come in and be better than Strome right now. I totally agree. But not one of them would have even close to Strome's ceiling, and again, who says Strome wouldn't be the best player in the KHL? I mean, there's not many KHL guys I know of who could step in and be stars in the NHL, which is what Strome is expected to do.


There are also might be a couple draft eligible 17/18 year olds out there, but at best those guys are two years behind him, and he seems to be the best player in the AHL from what I can tell.

As Hyman was skating to the net, his stick was away from Raanta, OEL backs up into his stick with his rear end which knocks Hymans stick back as Fischer knocks him towards the goalie. AFTER that Raanta has plenty of time to square up and be ready for the shot.

I call BS, but whatever I'm over it and ready for Florida tmrw.
- LeafGuy89

I'd disagree but as I said, this is what sucks about this rule. There is so much grey in this rule it's ridiculous. To try and make that call on an 8 inch tablet is a joke...

It was a fun game to watch and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how good the Leafs are and will be. Sucks that we couldn't get Matthews but I think Keller will help ease the sting. Should be a fun one when you guys come here and am looking forward to the rematch...

We can agree to disagree on the no goal call. Hyman practically speared Raanta back into his net just as Matthews was circling around the net. There were two terrible non-calls on Toronto for tripping (Keller, who when he was tripped, Carrick stopped skating knowing he was going to get called and didn't and one on Domi not too long after that at center ice). My issue is that you never know what the refs are going to call with goalie interference. There is zero consistency what so ever which means we have to argue about this call.

It's nice to see some wins finally after the horrendous start, and with getting Hammer and Chycrun back we can finally get rid of that turnover machine Connauton. I'd be curious if they call up the entire line Strome is playing on as they are really scoring a ton (with Crous and Merkely). Things are slowly, slowly starting to trend in the right direction this season...
- gmiel1980

Connauton is not the problem with the defense. He has 7 turnovers on the season, For reference
Goligoski 23 To's
OEL 21
Demers 19
Schenn 14
Hjalmarsson 12

Now maybe Connauton had all 7 of his last game(IDK)

Like who? There are conceivably many european / kHL vets who could come in and be better than Strome right now. I totally agree. But not one of them would have even close to Strome's ceiling, and again, who says Strome wouldn't be the best player in the KHL? I mean, there's not many KHL guys I know of who could step in and be stars in the NHL, which is what Strome is expected to do.


There are also might be a couple draft eligible 17/18 year olds out there, but at best those guys are two years behind him, and he seems to be the best player in the AHL from what I can tell.
- James_Tanner

Just from the top of my head: Datsuyk, Kovalchuck, Shirokov, Gusev all forwards who i would take over Strome for impact right now. Surely there are some defensemen who are better aswell overall skillwise.

As for players with higher ceiling, Dahlin and Schvesnikov are better. Dahlin is a genertional player.

Just from the top of my head: Datsuyk, Kovalchuck, Shirokov, Gusev all forwards who i would take over Strome for impact right now. Surely there are some defensemen who are better aswell overall skillwise.

As for players with higher ceiling, Dahlin and Schvesnikov are better. Dahlin is a genertional player.
- Cloud

Tough to assume. Yakupov was highly touted as well. People were calling him the next Ovie

Tough to assume. Yakupov was highly touted as well. People were calling him the next Ovie
- WSCTeton17

About Dahlin? I live in sweden and see him play quiet often. He is dominant. Good size, great hands, lethal shot, skates like a god and have great vision. Remember when Matthews was hyped for tearing up the swiss league? He is doing it as a defensemen, in the swedish league.

That said, ofcourse theres a chance he doesnt pan out but I would say hes a future superstar for sure.

I'd disagree but as I said, this is what sucks about this rule. There is so much grey in this rule it's ridiculous. To try and make that call on an 8 inch tablet is a joke...

It was a fun game to watch and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how good the Leafs are and will be. Sucks that we couldn't get Matthews but I think Keller will help ease the sting. Should be a fun one when you guys come here and am looking forward to the rematch...
- gmiel1980

You are correct about the grey area. I don't think the refs themselves know what exactly counts as goaltender interference and what doesn't. It's frustrating. Then there's the whole "did the goalie have time to reset before the shot?" nonsense. Just how long does that take? How long do you need to wait after potential interference before you can shoot?

Clayton Keller looks like a real gem. Chayka's team may have had a record breaking poor start to the season, but at least one thing he has done that looks really smart is drafting Keller. I don't think many would argue at this point that he did well there.

The goalie interference goal could've gone either way and I would have accepted that. Hyman clearly intentionally pushed the goalie into the net with his stick. It did look like he had time to recover as he moved across the net got set, then went back down early, and was getting reset when the puck went in.

But....he never truly had a chance to get reset in position. He had to scramble over and when Matthews delayed a bit he took the bait, but he most likely wouldn't have found himself in such a desperate position if it wasn't for Hyman's stickwork.

It was a good call. But even if they allowed a goal like this against my team, I would've accepted that. After a good 15 minutes of swearing mostly in French, some English and maybe a bit of random foreign languages.... Puta is a fun word...