Ryan Wilson: Where did all the goals go? Where did all the goals go?

Should they package Crosby in a 3C deal?

Pens purging high danger scoring chances while not generating enough. The bottom six is the main culprit and needs to be addressed.

Pens purging high danger scoring chances while not generating enough. The bottom six is the main culprit and needs to be addressed.
- Rinosaur

Nah. Malkin, Crosby, and Letang 5v5 results are the biggest issue.

Too many excellent chances on pp not utilised due to passing around. Not enough shots.

In summary, I believe that the pens played two games where they put the puck inside of the net, and one where they did not. Beyond that.....I'm still enjoying my Stanley cup hangover. Phil for the Hart!!!

Should they package Crosby in a 3C deal?
- eNDSo

Obviously I know you’re not serious, but the Pens need to make a major move, not
Band-aid deal.

Sid will come around. I remember the regular season from the cup run two years ago Had a long stretch of bad play from him, where people were saying he didn’t care anymore

Nah. Malkin, Crosby, and Letang 5v5 results are the biggest issue.
- Feds91Stammer

Nah, Sheahan giving up 4 hdsc and generating none is a major issue

Nah, Sheahan giving up 4 hdsc and generating none is a major issue
- Rinosaur

In.. one game... but his line for the 2 games prior was very good.

Nah. Malkin, Crosby, and Letang 5v5 results are the biggest issue.
- Feds91Stammer

A whole lot of this.

A whole lot of this.
- madmike71

ESPECIALLY Sid

In.. one game... but his line for the 2 games prior was very good.
- j.boyd919

2 games were good out of 13.

Sheahan is not a bad player. He's going to have good games, but he's not consistent and just not a legit 3C IMO.

A whole lot of this.
- madmike71

If the bottom six were stronger, the top six wouldn't have to carry as much of the weight. Not that those big guys don't have to be better, but the Pens are far too top-heavy.

Letang also still needs to be sheltered for a while.

Nah, Sheahan giving up 4 hdsc and generating none is a major issue
- Rinosaur

Makes a lot of sense to blame the 3C that had a primary assist on the PK when none of your top players recorded a point.

I'm not going to look so I'll rely on HB facts. But if comparing this with seasons past I'd expect to see the scoring % down as well as Sid's goals/points - what you guys call 'luck' or PDO. So in comparison there's a few more very important stats that can be put in that aren't considered analytics (we all know throwing too many stats at us punters, we get a bit rowdy ), that doesn't reflect the same old rhetoric of "bottom 6 sucks", or Reaves is useless.

I do think the comparison to Reaves & Sid speaks volumes though, as our top C shouldn't be circling the bowl with our 4th line W!

Incredibly, with that, we are still sitting ok in the standings & a lot better than our last terrible start to a season with the former HC. I wonder if JR has a few trades he's looking at to try & stiffen things up?

Question, how did Hunwick go - I realise he scored but Sutter was a 20 goal scorer?

Wait!

I thought "anyone" could penalty kill?

Isn't that what you've spouted forever Wilson?

If the bottom six were stronger, the top six wouldn't have to carry as much of the weight. Not that those big guys don't have to be better, but the Pens are far too top-heavy.

Letang also still needs to be sheltered for a while.
- Rinosaur

100% Bubba!

Wait!

I thought "anyone" could penalty kill?

Isn't that what you've spouted forever Wilson?
- TheGame316

100% Bubba! (The question that is)

Wait!

I thought "anyone" could penalty kill?

Isn't that what you've spouted forever Wilson?
- TheGame316

I don't get this comment, this team has a bunch of "penalty killers" on it.

I don't get this comment, this team has a bunch of "penalty killers" on it.
- eNDSo

Well they're not doing a very good job for something that has been expressed as easy to learn.

Maybe Boner, Kunitz & Hainsey were better at it than the guys doing it now?

The overriding gest of the comment (same as I made yesterday), is what is wrong with our PK if anybody can do it? Why are we so poop at it at the moment?

Do the Hawks play us so well because they know they'll be playing a team fast & skilful as well with no threat of a gritty physical game? They play more relaxed & therefor better?

I'd love to see the wins/losses for the last 5 years. I'll check tonite but I can see the Hawks at 85% or above win ratio.

Makes a lot of sense to blame the 3C that had a primary assist on the PK when none of your top players recorded a point.
- Feds91Stammer

You're partial toward Sheahan, so I get your constant backing him. I don't think he's a bad player nor do I think he should not get credit for good games/plays, but OVERALL he's been mediocre.

He's simply not good enough to do what what the Pens need on a consistent basis. Having a strong game every now and then is not going to help the Pens in the long-run.

Huwnick scored the lone goal, but had a pretty bad game. So let's just ignore all the bad stuff he did since Letang or Schultz didn't score.

i was at the game. sid looked a little disinterested. i feel like ive noticed this in his past slumps as well.

Winning back to back cups has taken a little of the excitement out of being a fan for me. its like well we just won back to back cups, what else is there to do. i wonder if any of the players feel this way as well

Whats wrong with Sid? Is he tired, hurt, or just disinterested?
Last night, He and Malkin and Phil looked disinterested for much of the game.

If Sully is crushing his top 9 now, they will all be too tired to succeed in the playoffs later in the year.

Why are you all here ripping RW with the " Ryan Reaves sucks" and "anyone can play PK" sarcasm?
The bottom 6 was gashed in the summer and was replaced with a goon and a bunch of 4th liners who dont drive play. And what does Reaves do anyway? I see Sid and our stars receiving head shots on a nightly basis. If he isnt going to deter that, why is he here? Its certainly not because he plays hockey well.
And the PK problem has more to do with back to back Champs not wanting to block shots and lay everything out in November. None of them want to exert the energy or risk the injury required to be good PKers. That will improve with time.

Whats wrong with Sid? Is he tired, hurt, or just disinterested?
Last night, He and Malkin and Phil looked disinterested for much of the game.

If Sully is crushing his top 9 now, they will all be too tired to succeed in the playoffs later in the year.

Why are you all here ripping RW with the " Ryan Reaves sucks" and "anyone can play PK" sarcasm?
The bottom 6 was gashed in the summer and was replaced with a goon and a bunch of 4th liners who dont drive play. And what does Reaves do anyway? I see Sid and our stars receiving head shots on a nightly basis. If he isnt going to deter that, why is he here? Its certainly not because he plays hockey well.
And the PK problem has more to do with back to back Champs not wanting to block shots and lay everything out in November. None of them want to exert the energy or risk the injury required to be good PKers. That will improve with time.
- Amanion

Pens have the most blocked shots in the entire NHL. But that's probably because of what you said, they don't have a bottom 6 that can drive play. Also the Pens stars at 5v5 suck right now.