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Bob Duff
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 11.10.2014

Oct 13 @ 5:59 PM ET
Bob Duff: Hard not to think about Las Vegas tragedy The Detroit Red Wings make their first visit to Las Vegas, just 12 days after 58 people were murdered at a country music festival there.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Oct 13 @ 7:11 PM ET
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wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Oct 13 @ 7:45 PM ET
Duff = great blogger, Kenny = great GM.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Oct 13 @ 10:18 PM ET


Always on point.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Oct 13 @ 11:57 PM ET
Howard blames the media.... wow... two words that are never talked about ...Gun Control...oh well guess that's for civilized places where the world isn't so sick Howard.
Vladdie_Kon1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 04.21.2007

Oct 14 @ 12:50 AM ET
Howard blames the media.... wow... two words that are never talked about ...Gun Control...oh well guess that's for civilized places where the world isn't so sick Howard.
- Nuck4U


Nobody is interested in your liberal gun control political gibberish. I'd prefer to keep my 2nd amendment... Go back to the Canucks blog.

Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 14 @ 12:57 AM ET
Um... yeah okay genius. Nobody is interested in your liberal gun control political gibberish. Go back to your Canucks blog and disappear.
- Vladdie_Kon1



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Vladdie_Kon1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 04.21.2007

Oct 14 @ 1:06 AM ET
Despite a lot of turnovers... Wings were firing on all cylinders tonight. You know it's a good night if Glendening scores from 40 feet out on a wrister. Hank is playing like a well-oiled machine. Hope like heck he can stay healthy... 4 point night. Nyquist with 2 goals and Tatar with a fight. Fun game to watch.

Now if we can get AA back to inject some more speed / youth / offense on our top 6.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Oct 14 @ 1:17 AM ET
Despite a lot of turnovers... Wings were firing on all cylinders tonight. You know it's a good night if Glendening scores from 40 feet out on a wrister. Hank is playing like a well-oiled machine. Hope like heck he can stay healthy... 4 point night. Nyquist with 2 goals and Tatar with a fight. Fun game to watch.

Now if we can get AA back to inject some more speed / youth / offense on our top 6.

- Vladdie_Kon1

No AA and we seem to be ok.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 14 @ 2:52 AM ET
Howard blames the media.... wow... two words that are never talked about ...Gun Control...oh well guess that's for civilized places where the world isn't so sick Howard.
- Nuck4U

wut
datswho
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 05.25.2013

Oct 14 @ 5:51 AM ET
i am curious about how this gun control works? We have drug control and it is ineffective. The black markets provide that which legal markets do not. Do you have no guns in Canada? No handguns? No semiauto rifels? Completely unobtainable?
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Oct 14 @ 9:20 AM ET
i am curious about how this gun control works? We have drug control and it is ineffective. The black markets provide that which legal markets do not. Do you have no guns in Canada? No handguns? No semiauto rifels? Completely unobtainable?
- datswho

Yes we have guns, drugs, etc all in Canada just like the USA, but on a smaller scale. The problem is that liberals seem to think anytime something terrible happens that the person doing the terrible thing would have acted differently if there were different laws.

The problem is that it's not the case. If you look at Gun control for example, that's just the Government cracking down on who can register and own a gun. But they don't take into account illegal weapons or non registered weapons.

To be honest with the way Canada is today and having Trudeau in charge I'm shocked he hasn't converted everyone to either Sharia Law or Modern feminism. They guy is an idiot and is ruining our country.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Oct 14 @ 10:20 AM ET
Yes we have guns, drugs, etc all in Canada just like the USA, but on a smaller scale. The problem is that liberals seem to think anytime something terrible happens that the person doing the terrible thing would have acted differently if there were different laws.

The problem is that it's not the case. If you look at Gun control for example, that's just the Government cracking down on who can register and own a gun. But they don't take into account illegal weapons or non registered weapons.

To be honest with the way Canada is today and having Trudeau in charge I'm shocked he hasn't converted everyone to either Sharia Law or Modern feminism. They guy is an idiot and is ruining our country.

- Maverick1818

xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 14 @ 10:37 AM ET
I dont think about the tragedy all the time. Yes it was awful but we live in an era where something like this happens almost every week. It's at the point where I wake up everyday and am surprised if something didnt happen.
arh777
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Yorba Linda, CA
Joined: 03.27.2012

Oct 14 @ 10:44 AM ET
Yes we have guns, drugs, etc all in Canada just like the USA, but on a smaller scale. The problem is that liberals seem to think anytime something terrible happens that the person doing the terrible thing would have acted differently if there were different laws.

The problem is that it's not the case. If you look at Gun control for example, that's just the Government cracking down on who can register and own a gun. But they don't take into account illegal weapons or non registered weapons.

To be honest with the way Canada is today and having Trudeau in charge I'm shocked he hasn't converted everyone to either Sharia Law or Modern feminism. They guy is an idiot and is ruining our country.

- Maverick1818



spot on!
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 14 @ 10:44 AM ET
Yes we have guns, drugs, etc all in Canada just like the USA, but on a smaller scale. The problem is that liberals seem to think anytime something terrible happens that the person doing the terrible thing would have acted differently if there were different laws.

The problem is that it's not the case. If you look at Gun control for example, that's just the Government cracking down on who can register and own a gun. But they don't take into account illegal weapons or non registered weapons.

To be honest with the way Canada is today and having Trudeau in charge I'm shocked he hasn't converted everyone to either Sharia Law or Modern feminism. They guy is an idiot and is ruining our country.

- Maverick1818


The problem with guns is that gun owners are delusional. They think everyone is out to get them and that they need it for protection.

1) Not everyone is out to get you, Criminals typically just want your TV

2) If its locked in a safe, it clearly isnt for protection. A criminal isnt going to announce his entrance and wait for you to unlock a safe. If someone is planning on shooting you they dont announce it either.

3) People who dont lock it in the safe are the ones you hear about on the news when I child gets a hold of it and kills a sibling or parent.

People want guns because they like guns. End of story. All Countries that once allowed gun use and then banned it later on have had shooting rates drop. That is a fact. Australia is a perfect example. People are stupid and trigger happy when it comes to fear.
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Oct 14 @ 11:34 AM ET
The problem with guns is that gun owners are delusional. They think everyone is out to get them and that they need it for protection.

1) Not everyone is out to get you, Criminals typically just want your TV

2) If its locked in a safe, it clearly isnt for protection. A criminal isnt going to announce his entrance and wait for you to unlock a safe. If someone is planning on shooting you they dont announce it either.

3) People who dont lock it in the safe are the ones you hear about on the news when I child gets a hold of it and kills a sibling or parent.

People want guns because they like guns. End of story. All Countries that once allowed gun use and then banned it later on have had shooting rates drop. That is a fact. Australia is a perfect example. People are stupid and trigger happy when it comes to fear.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I really have to disagree, I don't own any guns myself but I have shot quite a few, My grandfather is big into skeet shooting and literally has an entire rack of guns locked in his basement. Completely safe.

It's about sport not protection.

Yes there are paranoid people out there who think they need one "just incase" but if they are used properly and stored properly, it's not an issue at all. Plus if someone is trying to steal something like a TV, they deserve to get shot.

Statistically, the amount of illegal gun use with legal or properly registered guns is basically nothing.

Do you really think if guns were banned in North America, a group like ISIS would say "Well they aren't using guns, we don't need them either"... highly doubtful.

People doing illegal things will continue to do illegal things. Guns aren't the problem no matter what leftist politicians seem to say.


Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 14 @ 11:47 AM ET
Yes we have guns, drugs, etc all in Canada just like the USA, but on a smaller scale. The problem is that liberals seem to think anytime something terrible happens that the person doing the terrible thing would have acted differently if there were different laws.

The problem is that it's not the case. If you look at Gun control for example, that's just the Government cracking down on who can register and own a gun. But they don't take into account illegal weapons or non registered weapons.

To be honest with the way Canada is today and having Trudeau in charge I'm shocked he hasn't converted everyone to either Sharia Law or Modern feminism. They guy is an idiot and is ruining our country.

- Maverick1818



xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 14 @ 11:48 AM ET
I really have to disagree, I don't own any guns myself but I have shot quite a few, My grandfather is big into skeet shooting and literally has an entire rack of guns locked in his basement. Completely safe.

It's about sport not protection.

Yes there are paranoid people out there who think they need one "just incase" but if they are used properly and stored properly, it's not an issue at all. Plus if someone is trying to steal something like a TV, they deserve to get shot.

Statistically, the amount of illegal gun use with legal or properly registered guns is basically nothing.

Do you really think if guns were banned in North America, a group like ISIS would say "Well they aren't using guns, we don't need them either"... highly doubtful.

People doing illegal things will continue to do illegal things. Guns aren't the problem no matter what leftist politicians seem to say.

- Maverick1818


Its not a sport though. A gun is a tool that was designed to kill. Calling Gun shooting a sport is like calling Darts, Pool and Poker a sport. These are not sports. It goes back to my previous point. People just like Guns but many complain it is about protection. Yes illegal things will still happen but that doesnt mean we should make it easy. Could someone kill with a knife? sure but he isnt going to hurt or kill as many as they would with a gun. A knife can be overpowered as well. Your argument is like saying they should just let people do drugs or get rid of all driving laws because people will still do these things.
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Oct 14 @ 12:04 PM ET
Its not a sport though. A gun is a tool that was designed to kill. Calling Gun shooting a sport is like calling Darts, Pool and Poker a sport. These are not sports. It goes back to my previous point. People just like Guns but many complain it is about protection. Yes illegal things will still happen but that doesnt mean we should make it easy. Could someone kill with a knife? sure but he isnt going to hurt or kill as many as they would with a gun. A knife can be overpowered as well. Your argument is like saying they should just let people do drugs or get rid of all driving laws because people will still do these things.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Sport shooting is absolutely a sport. they have rifles in the Olympics and Skeet shooting is huge, both sports don't involve killing anyone or anything.

I'm not saying don't have laws on them. I absolutely believe that there should be safety law, rules and regulations. But I was saying that just banning guns all together isn't going to help anyone.

Using a Drug example, I don't believe at all drugs should be free and open to use, I think they have their medical merits, but someone doing drugs and driving is completely different than someone owning a gun.

The person doing the drugs is breaking the law, endangering their life and the lives of others.

The person with a properly stored, maintained and used gun, isn't endangering anyone they aren't breaking the law and they are getting enjoyment from it if they compete in a gun sport, and yes some people may find comfort and feel safe having a gun... there isn't anything wrong with that.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 14 @ 12:08 PM ET
i am curious about how this gun control works? We have drug control and it is ineffective. The black markets provide that which legal markets do not. Do you have no guns in Canada? No handguns? No semiauto rifels? Completely unobtainable?
- datswho


Are they obtainable? Sure. The fact is that Gun control makes it difficult to get a hold of one which lowers the gun violence. U.S has a Firearm death total that is 4x higher than Canada

Being killed with a gun here: Is about as likely as dying of ________ in the U.S. Deaths per mil.
El Salvador Heart attack 446.3
Mexico Pancreatic cancer 121.7
United States Car accident* 31.2
Chile Motorcycle accident 14.3
Israel Building fire 7.5
Canada Alcohol poisoning 5.6
Ireland Drowning in a lake, river or ocean 4.8
Netherlands Accidental gas poisoning 2.3
Germany Contact with a thrown or falling object 2.1
France Hypothermia 2.0
Austria Drowning in a swimming pool 1.9
Australia Falling from a building or structure 1.7
China Plane crash 1.6
Spain Exposure to excessive natural heat 1.6
New Zealand Falling from a ladder 1.5
Poland Bicycle-car crash 1.1
England Contact with agricultural machinery 0.9
Norway Accidental hanging or strangulation 0.9
Iceland Electrocution 0.6
Scotland Cataclysmic storms 0.5
South Korea Being crushed or pinched between objects 0.4
Japan Lightning strike 0.1
Gertner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.04.2017

Oct 14 @ 1:03 PM ET
I'm from Canada in a city of over 200,000. We've had 1 shooting death this year.

If only we had guns.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 14 @ 2:04 PM ET
I'm from Canada in a city of over 200,000. We've had 1 shooting death this year.

If only we had guns.

- Gertner


We need to regulate cars better. Toronto is f'ing ridiculous. A pedestrian is hit by a car multiple times per day. I dont know how many people need to die from being hit by a car until the government starts banning people from driving. Irresponsibility in a vehicle that can cost someone their life should have a severe penalty. If you car caught drinking and driving, you should not be able to drive for at least a year and if caught driving while suspended should have a huge fine, jail time and blacklisted from buying a vehicle. Distracted driving should be equivalent to drinking and driving
datswho
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 05.25.2013

Oct 14 @ 3:39 PM ET
So. Here it goes: guns have been invented, and cannot be uninvented. I would prefer we all use swords to defend ourselves thus stopping most people due to skill and physical limitations. However since guns are invented you either have one, or hope people are nice and won't bother you. To be honest, usually people are nice and won't bother you.

Also, if you factor out urban violence America gun death rate drops precipitously. This further drops when drug prohibition related deaths are removed from the equation. If you aren't using drugs and avoid high crime urban areas the USA is not much different than Canada as far as safety.

Btw, drug prohibition doesn't work as far as those who are arguing for that. In fact I'm not sure I've ever seen a case of prohibition working for anything
Gertner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.04.2017

Oct 14 @ 4:18 PM ET
We need to regulate cars better. Toronto is f'ing ridiculous. A pedestrian is hit by a car multiple times per day. I dont know how many people need to die from being hit by a car until the government starts banning people from driving. Irresponsibility in a vehicle that can cost someone their life should have a severe penalty. If you car caught drinking and driving, you should not be able to drive for at least a year and if caught driving while suspended should have a huge fine, jail time and blacklisted from buying a vehicle. Distracted driving should be equivalent to drinking and driving
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I 100% agree with that