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ToddCordellVAN
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 09.04.2013

Sep 1 @ 10:29 AM ET
HockeyBuzz Hotstove: Which NHL team has the worst defense core?
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Sep 1 @ 10:31 AM ET
Colorado has 3 NHL defensemen signed right now...you'd have to think it would be them...
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 1 @ 10:35 AM ET
Colorado has 3 NHL defensemen signed right now...you'd have to think it would be them...
- BashCH

Barrie and Johnson are good defenseman that's the only reason why I couldn't pick them
joecool2931
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rillton, PA
Joined: 09.03.2015

Sep 1 @ 10:36 AM ET
The reverand may not be the best, but not a 7/8. i remember not to long ago, when he played a vital top-4 role, on a teams stampede through the playoff field...
ToddCordellVAN
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 09.04.2013

Sep 1 @ 10:40 AM ET
Barrie and Johnson are good defenseman that's the only reason why I couldn't pick them
- AdamFrench


Same
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 1 @ 10:41 AM ET
The reverand may not be the best, but not a 7/8. i remember not to long ago, when he played a vital top-4 role, on a teams stampede through the playoff field...
- joecool2931


So did Ron Hainsey.
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Sep 1 @ 10:44 AM ET
Devils and it's not a contest
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Sep 1 @ 10:45 AM ET
The reverand may not be the best, but not a 7/8. i remember not to long ago, when he played a vital top-4 role, on a teams stampede through the playoff field...
- joecool2931



Problem is he played top pair last year, and it was disastrous, I'm not sure Andy Greenes regression is so much age as it is going from having Adam Larsson as a partner to Lovejoy. Devils love to ride Greene with tough minutes, putting Lovejoy in those situations guarantees a bottom 3 finish.
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 1 @ 10:55 AM ET
Andy Greene is one of those players that was very under rated and then became so-often-called-underrated-that-now-he's-overrated and now he's just aging and would be much better suited in a second or third pairing role.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 1 @ 11:21 AM ET
Barrie and Johnson are good defenseman that's the only reason why I couldn't pick them
- AdamFrench


I Knew you loved my boys
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Sep 1 @ 11:23 AM ET
What about our savior, Iron Mike Kapla?

But yeah, our D is horrible.

When David Schlemko was probably your best defensive signing you're screwed. And then you let the guy walk away?!

When you trade pics for Mirco Muller and let Seth Helgeson walk you might not have made any real progress. We'll see.

When you never give Vojtec Mozik and NHL shot but he's hands down your best defender in the AHL, it's not great asset management.

When you sign Kyle Quincey off the scrap heap and then trade him for a worse defender in Dalton Prout, it's a problem.

When you add Victor Loov, Brandon(?) Gromley and Marc-Andre Gragnani you're scraping bottom. I won't even mention Auvitu....

It's pretty ugly. Hopefully somebody steps up and surprises us.

DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 1 @ 11:23 AM ET
Colorado has 3 NHL defensemen signed right now...you'd have to think it would be them...
- BashCH


No way, Avs have a sexy core.

BarBAErio cant do no wrong


TheRollingPuck
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "All things considered (defense) I'd put a prime Kunitz on par with one way kessel."
Joined: 04.10.2010

Sep 1 @ 11:26 AM ET
The Wings or Devils.

TwoPumpChump91
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 03.04.2016

Sep 1 @ 11:26 AM ET
Yeah, we do have the worst d in the nhl. I actually think our forward core isn't near the worst, but that may be a little biased and is including zajac as healthy
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Sep 1 @ 11:26 AM ET
A bit outside the box, but how about Montreal? Shea Weber can obviously still play, but if you look outside of him it's pretty grim...

Sergachev, Markov, Beaulieu, and Emelin all out the door. Replaced with pylons like Schlemko, Morrow, and Streit

And I don't care how much $$ Alzner is being paid. That guy is junk
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 1 @ 11:48 AM ET
A bit outside the box, but how about Montreal? Shea Weber can obviously still play, but if you look outside of him it's pretty grim...

Sergachev, Markov, Beaulieu, and Emelin all out the door. Replaced with pylons like Schlemko, Morrow, and Streit

And I don't care how much $$ Alzner is being paid. That guy is junk


Still better than NJ in my opinion...

I really don't think Toronto's is much to brag about though. Reilly had an off year and needs more time to grow into his role. Gardiner makes some of the most ridiculous giveaways, Zaitsev was good but not great - reminded me of Gardiner at times. They still don't have a solid guy in their own end.
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Sep 1 @ 12:00 PM ET
Still better than NJ in my opinion...

I really don't think Toronto's is much to brag about though. Reilly had an off year and needs more time to grow into his role. Gardiner makes some of the most ridiculous giveaways, Zaitsev was good but not great - reminded me of Gardiner at times. They still don't have a solid guy in their own end.

- mgriffen


Very true. Leafs d corps is certainly not top tier. But there are enough options, outside of Rielly, Gardiner and Zaitsev, to feel comfortable about. Between the two Swedes they plucked from the SEL, Dermott, Liljegren, Hainsey, and Carrick, they'll be able to cobble something decent together. If they manage to hit another homerun with one of the kids (a la Zaitsev), they'll be doing quite well

The issue with Montreal is that there's nothing in the pipeline to replace all of these old plugs
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 1 @ 12:10 PM ET
Very true. Leafs d corps is certainly not top tier. But there are enough options, outside of Rielly, Gardiner and Zaitsev, to feel comfortable about. Between the two Swedes they plucked from the SEL, Dermott, Liljegren, Hainsey, and Carrick, they'll be able to cobble something decent together. If they manage to hit another homerun with one of the kids (a la Zaitsev), they'll be doing quite well

The issue with Montreal is that there's nothing in the pipeline to replace all of these old plugs

- AxlRose91



Simply because Shea Weber is that (frank)ing good, Habs still have a better defense than the Leafs today. Petry and Alzner are good players despite what you're implying.

As for the future, you're entitled to believe in Dermott, Liljegren and other young guys but so are the Habs who have interesting prospects on defense like Victor Mete and Juulsen.
AkA
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 10.01.2008

Sep 1 @ 12:16 PM ET

jesus. we know our d stinks. this blog is just kicking the dog.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 1 @ 12:21 PM ET
Still better than NJ in my opinion...

I really don't think Toronto's is much to brag about though. Reilly had an off year and needs more time to grow into his role. Gardiner makes some of the most ridiculous giveaways, Zaitsev was good but not great - reminded me of Gardiner at times. They still don't have a solid guy in their own end.

- mgriffen

DeKeyser for Gardiner.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 1 @ 12:25 PM ET
jesus. we know our d stinks. this blog is just kicking the dog.
- AkA


nope you should feel bad, we all should feel bad about your D
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 1 @ 12:29 PM ET
nope you should feel bad, we all should feel bad about your D
- DDM-Coga


(frank)ing Coga, bashing on the only team he can.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 1 @ 12:30 PM ET
(frank)ing Coga, bashing on the only team he can.
- Scabeh

He takes what he can, whenever he can.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Sep 1 @ 12:39 PM ET
the Stars D looks pretty bleak.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 1 @ 12:49 PM ET
the Stars D looks pretty bleak.
- Blackstrom2


Methot, Hamhuis, Klingberg and Honka?
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