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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Aug 15 @ 10:39 AM ET
Todd Cordell: On Kerfoot, Butcher and Severson
Otiss
Joined: 11.28.2014

Aug 15 @ 10:42 AM ET
Fist
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Aug 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
I would really like to see butcher signed soon
Senor_Elias
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.17.2013

Aug 15 @ 11:03 AM ET
Eff Kerfoot
PapaSquat
Florida Panthers
Location: NY
Joined: 06.02.2015

Aug 15 @ 11:04 AM ET
Any Devils past or present have the number #69? Looking for a new jersey.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Aug 15 @ 11:12 AM ET

The NHL needs to address this college loophole. It's not that big a deal or that difficult a problem. Just make the acquiring team give the pick back to team that drafted the player. So if we drafted Kerfoot in the 5th round the acquiring team would give us a 5th rounder.

The Rangers got a compensatory pick from the league when one of their prospect died playing overseas. I think it was Alexei Cherepanov. (We didn't with Alexander Vasyunov - RIP). But my point is it's not that difficult a problem.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Aug 15 @ 11:17 AM ET
Any Devils past or present have the number #69? Looking for a new jersey.
- PapaSquat


No. Jagr wore 68 and Blake Speers wore 74 are the closest.

The most common number is 22 which has been worn by 34 different franchise players (going back to Kansas City).
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 15 @ 11:23 AM ET
The NHL needs to address this college loophole. It's not that big a deal or that difficult a problem. Just make the acquiring team give the pick back to team that drafted the player. So if we drafted Kerfoot in the 5th round the acquiring team would give us a 5th rounder.

The Rangers got a compensatory pick from the league when one of their prospect died playing overseas. I think it was Alexei Cherepanov. (We didn't with Alexander Vasyunov - RIP). But my point is it's not that difficult a problem.

- Queenie_5_hole


the Rangers got a compensatory pick for Cherepanov because every team gets a compensatory pick in 2nd round if they dont sign their first rounder, the Black Hawks got one after Rangers signed Kevin Hayes

can't start giving comp picks for every single round that doesn't work out, the draft will end up having a million compensatory picks
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Aug 15 @ 11:56 AM ET
the Rangers got a compensatory pick for Cherepanov because every team gets a compensatory pick in 2nd round if they dont sign their first rounder, the Black Hawks got one after Rangers signed Kevin Hayes

can't start giving comp picks for every single round that doesn't work out, the draft will end up having a million compensatory picks

- jimbro83


No it won't. Total exaggeration of the situation.
SwedfishLars
New Jersey Devils
Location: AB
Joined: 02.19.2016

Aug 15 @ 11:59 AM ET
Do these NCAA kids have to be signed to a ELC or do they sign as a RFA to the new club they sign with?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 15 @ 12:00 PM ET
No it won't. Total exaggeration of the situation.
- Queenie_5_hole


what's the criteria you are talking about then? the Rangers didn't sign 2014 fourth round pick Ryan Mantha and then Edmonton signed him.

would Rangers get compensatory pick for that too?

I am not exaggerating the situation, it's exactly the situation

teams don't sign later round picks all the time
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Aug 15 @ 12:28 PM ET
No it won't. Total exaggeration of the situation.
- Queenie_5_hole

It's still happening way too often. They should be forced to re-draft next season.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Aug 15 @ 12:29 PM ET
what's the criteria you are talking about then? the Rangers didn't sign 2014 fourth round pick Ryan Mantha and then Edmonton signed him.

would Rangers get compensatory pick for that too?

I am not exaggerating the situation, it's exactly the situation

teams don't sign later round picks all the time

- jimbro83

Well if the team doesn't want them anymore that's a different situation
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Aug 15 @ 12:56 PM ET
what's the criteria you are talking about then? the Rangers didn't sign 2014 fourth round pick Ryan Mantha and then Edmonton signed him.

would Rangers get compensatory pick for that too?

I am not exaggerating the situation, it's exactly the situation

teams don't sign later round picks all the time

- jimbro83



I was talking about compensation for college players that use the system to become free agents and then pick where they want to play. If a drafting team doesn't want to sign a player they drafted then they can walk away.



jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 15 @ 1:06 PM ET
I was talking about compensation for college players that use the system to become free agents and then pick where they want to play. If a drafting team doesn't want to sign a player they drafted then they can walk away.
- Queenie_5_hole


in the case of Kerfoot though, the Devils drafted him from a Canadian junior team and he still played another year in that league before deciding not to sign with Devils and then decided to go to college

it's just too hard to make a compensatory rule for this case, IMO
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Aug 15 @ 1:28 PM ET
I'll "overpay" for Butcher by 500k lol. Up his AHL and NHL salaries.. if that's possible, idk how it all works. We NEEeEEeEed some depth on D. .. unless Kapla is gona be the next Rafalski
rcerick
New Jersey Devils
Location: 973, NJ
Joined: 08.14.2017

Aug 15 @ 1:34 PM ET
we need butcher like i need taylor Ham, yeah i went there you SNJ sweethearts
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Aug 15 @ 1:57 PM ET
in the case of Kerfoot though, the Devils drafted him from a Canadian junior team and he still played another year in that league before deciding not to sign with Devils and then decided to go to college

it's just too hard to make a compensatory rule for this case, IMO

- jimbro83


Well the good news is you and I don't have to fix it. The league and union do.

So regardless of whether Kerfoot's specific condition would or would not be covered they need to address the larger issue overall.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 15 @ 1:58 PM ET
Do these NCAA kids have to be signed to a ELC or do they sign as a RFA to the new club they sign with?
- SwedfishLars


2 year ELC max up to 925k plus bonuses
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 15 @ 1:59 PM ET
Well the good news is you and I don't have to fix it. The league and union do.

So regardless of whether Kerfoot's specific condition would or would not be covered they need to address the larger issue overall.

- Queenie_5_hole


Butcher officially visiting Devils

http://www.denverpost.com...eject-colorado-avalanche/
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 15 @ 1:59 PM ET
what's the criteria you are talking about then? the Rangers didn't sign 2014 fourth round pick Ryan Mantha and then Edmonton signed him.

would Rangers get compensatory pick for that too?

I am not exaggerating the situation, it's exactly the situation

teams don't sign later round picks all the time

- jimbro83


only 1st round picks get compensation
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 15 @ 2:00 PM ET
only 1st round picks get compensation
- DDM-Coga


yes I know, if you follow the conversation, the other guy here wants to increase cases of compensation, I am saying that's impossible to do
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 15 @ 2:02 PM ET
yes I know, if you follow the conversation, the other guy here wants to increase cases of compensation, I am saying that's impossible to do
- jimbro83


oh sorry missed that part.

Yeah you cant really increase compensation here, it just sucks.

What the NCAA needs to do is just allow for kids to sign their ELCs and still hold their eligibility. And the NHL needs to allow them ELCs to slide until they formally leave the NCAA
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Aug 15 @ 2:03 PM ET
Butcher officially visiting Devils

http://www.denverpost.com...eject-colorado-avalanche/

- jimbro83

Eh it's the same song and dance as last year. No use getting excited.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Aug 15 @ 2:13 PM ET
Butcher officially visiting Devils

http://www.denverpost.com...eject-colorado-avalanche/

- jimbro83



Newark-Buffalo-Las Vegas. Interesting. We better hustle him over to Manhattan to increase our sex appeal. Not that you can out hustle Vegas, but they do have a lot of defenseman on their roster.

Kapla will be the next Randy Velischek. They're almost the exact same size.
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