Ryan Wilson
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Location: Rochester, NY Joined: 06.13.2013
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martox
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort." Joined: 09.25.2014
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acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Get the Cup back, PA Joined: 06.13.2007
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I'm a mayoholic. I shovel that stuff on my ham and turkey sandwiches. Plus I put it on burgers too. I need help. |
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The NHL was genius not letting the players go to Korea 2018. Knowing how much the players want to go, The NHLPA will have to "Give to Get" their participation in 2022 (Even though the NHL deep down really wants the exposure in those Olympic games)
Players are expected to push hard for lower escrow, that was the hill they were supposed to die on, the NHL will now counter with Olympic Participation as one of their bargaining chips |
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Boring.
How about a 3C trade target from each division, one division per day. Included are terms of the trade and why it makes sense for both teams.
How about a contest to see which reader can guess who the 3C ends up being. Posters must include terms of the trade in case of a tie. Closest wins a season ticket so that lucky person can bask in the glory of Ek roomers. |
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simethos
Season Ticket Holder Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.02.2007
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mayo is an abomination that needs to be wiped off of the face of the earth. mayo is punishment for the sins of man. a vile disease that should never have been made. |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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Mattkriz
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 05.21.2017
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I'd be eh infuriated if we traded Kessel for staal. He has the second worst contract in the NHL only behind Toews. |
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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I'd be eh infuriated if we traded Kessel for staal. He has the second worst contract in the NHL only behind Toews. - Mattkriz
The badness of Jordan Staal's contract is vastly exaggerated. He's the best pure shut down center in the league who also puts in ~20 goals and ~50 points a season. That's worth 6 mil a year.
That being said I wouldn't trade Kessel for him. I'd be upset too. |
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Do people actually think managing a NHL cap is that difficult. Any MBA who spends two weeks studying the cba should be able to figure it out. |
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The badness of Jordan Staal's contract is vastly exaggerated. He's the best pure shut down center in the league who also puts in ~20 goals and ~50 points a season. That's worth 6 mil a year.
That being said I wouldn't trade Kessel for him. I'd be upset too. - Victoro311
I agree that he is definitely worth his contract and I would trade Kessel for him. Staal is a year younger, locked in for a year longer, costs less money, center is way more important than winger, and the Pens are weak at center depth but loaded at RW. I don't think Kessel is worth the ~20 extra points per season. |
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Do people actually think managing a NHL cap is that difficult. Any MBA who spends two weeks studying the cba should be able to figure it out. - sditulli
I've wondered this, too. I mean, really, how complicated can it be? |
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powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Columbia , MD Joined: 11.28.2006
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Mayo and Miracle whip? |
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What would the Genuine reaction be from Penguins fans if we traded Matt Murray today for a prospect who's ceiling would be a 2c in 4 years
And we'd roll with the best FA goalie we could find in the meantime
(This is not a trade suggestion, just looking for some sanity after coming from another blog) |
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What would the Genuine reaction be from Penguins fans if we traded Matt Murray today for a prospect who's ceiling would be a 2c in 4 years
And we'd roll with the best FA goalie we could find in the meantime
(This is not a trade suggestion, just looking for some sanity after coming from another blog) - PensWin87
The reaction would probably be off-the-charts negative, as well it should be. I'm not even going to get into the reasons why because it is so absurd. |
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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What would the Genuine reaction be from Penguins fans if we traded Matt Murray today for a prospect who's ceiling would be a 2c in 4 years
And we'd roll with the best FA goalie we could find in the meantime
(This is not a trade suggestion, just looking for some sanity after coming from another blog) - PensWin87
That's absolute madness for a team that's in win now mode. If you're talking about trading him for a proven stud C who would be playing behind Sid and Geno in the short term but could become the guy as the two headed monster age and extended our Cup window for years to com, ok. These would be guys like Nathan MacKinnon, Sean Monahan, and Mark Schifele.
I'm not saying those are realistic trades, but if we, as a win now team, are going to give up a super cheap young goalie who's played at an elite level his two years in the league, it better be for someone that offers substantial immediate pay off and can have a future impact into the post-Crosby/Malkin era. |
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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My quote's not working, but right on to the guy who's a mayoholic. I can't even imagine eating sandwiches without mayo. I can't even imagine a world without mayo. That's a world I wouldn't want to be part of. |
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That's absolute madness for a team that's in win now mode. If you're talking about trading him for a proven stud C who would be playing behind Sid and Geno in the short term but could become the guy as the two headed monster age and extended our Cup window for years to com, ok. These would be guys like Nathan MacKinnon, Sean Monahan, and Mark Schifele.
I'm not saying those are realistic trades, but if we, as a win now team, are going to give up a super cheap young goalie who's played at an elite level his two years in the league, it better be for someone that offers substantial immediate pay off and can have a future impact into the post-Crosby/Malkin era. - Victoro311
This. Not sure if Murray will end up being an "elite" goalie for many years, but he sure looks the part so far. Some teams go decades without elite goaltending. As mentioned, it would have to be a really young, bona fide 1C, but even then, it doesn't make sense. |
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Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Aliquippa, PA Joined: 11.11.2014
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What would the Genuine reaction be from Penguins fans if we traded Matt Murray today for a prospect who's ceiling would be a 2c in 4 years
And we'd roll with the best FA goalie we could find in the meantime
(This is not a trade suggestion, just looking for some sanity after coming from another blog) - PensWin87
There is probably not a scenario where I'd trade Murray right now outside of a ridiculous overpay. Starting goalie who may be elite on a bargain contract. Team is win now, we're probably never going to be lucky enough to get players like Crosby, Malkin, and Letang out of 2 drafts. |
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Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Aliquippa, PA Joined: 11.11.2014
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I agree that he is definitely worth his contract and I would trade Kessel for him. Staal is a year younger, locked in for a year longer, costs less money, center is way more important than winger, and the Pens are weak at center depth but loaded at RW. I don't think Kessel is worth the ~20 extra points per season. - T-Train
I think this is a tough one. I probably wouldn't do it under the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it " mentality, but I could see this working out for us especially IF Sprong can replace Kessel soon as the righty on the PP. Staal's such a possession monster against top lines and we do have the depth at wing.
Imagine Staal and Hags with Rust or Hornqvist, other team wouldn't get the puck. Sid and the kids. Geno, Sprong, ZAR one day soon? Could certainly have 3 dominant lines.
I see the logic, but can't do it. Phil's been too good in the playoffs. |
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Didn't we discuss Murray for Sam Bennett last offseason. Amazing how their values have changed.
Their really isn't a situation Where we would trade Murray now. With our collection of skaters we wouldn't risks having a question mark in net. Goalies might not win you cups but they certainly lose them. |
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I mean if we were getting Scheifele and Hellebuck for Murray, yeah I would trade him. But I dont see any plausible scenario where trading Murray makes sense |
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I think this is a tough one. I probably wouldn't do it under the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it " mentality, but I could see this working out for us especially IF Sprong can replace Kessel soon as the righty on the PP. Staal's such a possession monster against top lines and we do have the depth at wing.
Imagine Staal and Hags with Rust or Hornqvist, other team wouldn't get the puck. Sid and the kids. Geno, Sprong, ZAR one day soon? Could certainly have 3 dominant lines.
I see the logic, but can't do it. Phil's been too good in the playoffs. - Tojo.
I could do it. The value of Kessel is a great third line facilitator and power play scorer. As you alluded, Staal with Hags and Horny would be a nightmare to play against. Probably better than Kessel being centered by a bonino-like 3rd C.
There is a dip in PP production but with so many RH-RW on the roster, I'm sure we could fill the spot 90% as well as Kessel does...
Thing is, does Carolina need to do this? If they trade Staal it will mostly be for financial reasons.. |
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I could do it. The value of Kessel is a great third line facilitator and power play scorer. As you alluded, Staal with Hags and Horny would be a nightmare to play against. Probably better than Kessel being centered by a bonino-like 3rd C.
There is a dip in PP production but with so many RH-RW on the roster, I'm sure we could fill the spot 90% as well as Kessel does...
Thing is, does Carolina need to do this? If they trade Staal it will mostly be for financial reasons.. - YouMeAndDupuis9
Yeah, it doesn't make much sense at all for them. By the time they are a legit contender, Kessel will probably be declining. The only scenario I could see is if they view Kessel as more marketable at the TDL than Staal (which I think he would be for a team needing a scorer to put them over the top). Interesting to think about, though.
I do wonder if JR asked Francis about what it would take to get Staal. I think he is exactly what the Pens need in a 3C. I would settle for a poor man's Staal, though, especially if it means being able to keep Kessel. |
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Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Sydney Joined: 08.02.2014
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I think this 3peet talk is very optimistic (although I really really really hope we are in a position to give it a real crack ), this season coming I think is giving the kids a chance to get themselves a roster spot - kids including Pouliot. We've lost quite a bit of experience & haven't replaced it.
In saying that, Jarry might get a look or 2 as well talking about possible trades for Murray. I think it's 99.9% certain JR isn't trading a 2 time winning cup goalie in his third year of NHL (but, a young high end C would be my guess - would Eichel be out of the question???). So moving forward with Muzza & Jarman, ZAR, Sprong, Geuntzy & whoever else wants to crash the net & play their arses off, we may have to wait & win 3 in 4!
I'm actually looking forward to seeing if Pouliot can get some consistency - I hope he can. |
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