Ty Anderson: Bruins re-sign Austin Czarnik

The Fist of Otis

UGH, if this is true, it is incredibly infuriating. Who gives a (frank) about spooner. Shouldnt make a future top line winger for your team wait on someone you are likely going to trade and has much less value.

Also Pageau >>>>> Spooner. Pags actually tries when he plays and is good for more than a half-wall PP specialist.


EDIT: Not attacking you personally, just dont agree with the logic. For all the spooner lovers out there, good players play with heart and balls of steel. Pageau has both, spooner has neither.
-dothedougie

^From last thread.

I don't necessarily agree with it either but you have an RFA that filed for arbitration, a salary to cap to manage, and a premier winger who should be well compensated. Otherwise it makes no sense why it has taken so long to get done.

I personally don't care for either Spooner or Pageau. Honestly would like someone at center with a little more toughness in the defensive zone. Spooner has shown time and time again he is not going to commit to playing all 3 zones.

If he was an offensive dynamo, that's one thing but he doesn't exactly light the world on fire. There is nothing great or even above average in his game. Same for Pageau. Management should be striving for better than Ryan Spooner at 3C.

EDIT: See what arbitration decides he should be payed and then move his ass out of here. Maybe recoup some picks they stupidly wasted on Rinaldo.

^From last thread.

I don't necessarily agree with it either but you have an RFA that filed for arbitration, a salary to cap to manage, and a premier winger who should be well compensated. Otherwise it makes no sense why it has taken so long to get done.

I personally don't care for either Spooner or Pageau. Honestly would like someone at center with a little more toughness in the defensive zone. Spooner has shown time and time again he is not going to commit to playing all 3 zones.

If he was an offensive dynamo, that's one thing but he doesn't exactly light the world on fire. There is nothing great or even above average in his game. Same for Pageau. Management should be striving for better than Ryan Spooner at 3C.

EDIT: See what arbitration decides he should be payed and then move his ass out of here. Maybe recoup some picks they stupidly wasted on Rinaldo.
- glove_was_stuck

I like you.

#JFKfor3C

Trust the process.

Trust the process.
- shoreorrpark

Its a leap of faith......

Oh my, this one might be my new favorite. Got this from a poster on Ty's Twitter.

^From last thread.

I don't necessarily agree with it either but you have an RFA that filed for arbitration, a salary to cap to manage, and a premier winger who should be well compensated. Otherwise it makes no sense why it has taken so long to get done.

I personally don't care for either Spooner or Pageau. Honestly would like someone at center with a little more toughness in the defensive zone. Spooner has shown time and time again he is not going to commit to playing all 3 zones.

If he was an offensive dynamo, that's one thing but he doesn't exactly light the world on fire. There is nothing great or even above average in his game. Same for Pageau. Management should be striving for better than Ryan Spooner at 3C.

EDIT: See what arbitration decides he should be payed and then move his ass out of here. Maybe recoup some picks they stupidly wasted on Rinaldo.
- glove_was_stuck

Pageau is pretty damn good.. definitely on another level than Spooner. Plays a lot of PK time for the Senators and is very responsible defensively. He also is gritty and will play a physical game unlike Spooner's. Points-wise, he had a bit of a down year last year, but he's pretty much on par with Spooner's point totals, even with none of the power-play time that Spooner gets. I'd take him in a heartbeat at 3C over Spooner.

Pageau is not a better player than Ryan Spooner. Did he have a better playoff series than Spooner? Yes.

I understand you guys dont like Spooners game but he is definitely ABOVE AVERAGE...

Also, Spooners contract is NOT the reason why Pasta isnt signed. There is a lot more at play than Spooners inevitable 2 year contract.

I do hope Czarnik can stick with the big club this year. I liked the way he played while he was up. He is confident carrying the puck through the neutral zone and we need that.

Pageau is not a better player than Ryan Spooner. Did he have a better playoff series than Spooner? Yes.

I understand you guys dont like Spooners game but he is definitely ABOVE AVERAGE...

Also, Spooners contract is NOT the reason why Pasta isnt signed. There is a lot more at play than Spooners inevitable 2 year contract.
- Mahewman

Agree to disagree... but I think you're dead wrong on that one man. I'm not even a Spooner hater, but Spooner vs. Pageau I take Pageau in 9 situations out of 10. The one situation I'm taking Spooner over Pageau is the powerplay.

Pageau is not a better player than Ryan Spooner. Did he have a better playoff series than Spooner? Yes.

I understand you guys dont like Spooners game but he is definitely ABOVE AVERAGE...

Also, Spooners contract is NOT the reason why Pasta isnt signed. There is a lot more at play than Spooners inevitable 2 year contract.
- Mahewman

When forecasting what your cap is going to look like knowing you're potentially shelling out big $$ for one of your top wings, I would say yes every dime spent is a reason. Maybe not entirely why it has taken so long but it is absolutely a factor when you have a hard cap and a roster to complete.

Pageau is pretty damn good.. definitely on another level than Spooner. Plays a lot of PK time for the Senators and is very responsible defensively. He also is gritty and will play a physical game unlike Spooner's. Points-wise, he had a bit of a down year last year, but he's pretty much on par with Spooner's point totals, even with none of the power-play time that Spooner gets. I'd take him in a heartbeat at 3C over Spooner.
- mixturebill

So really I think my expectations for a 3C are somewhere near 50 points and DOESN'T HURT YOU DEFENSIVELY. No center should be hurting you defensively. Sure J.G. Pageau would be an upgrade defensively but not production wise. Exact same issue as for as I am concerned. Incomplete player.

So really I think my expectations for a 3C are somewhere near 50 points and DOESN'T HURT YOU DEFENSIVELY. No center should be hurting you defensively. Sure J.G. Pageau would be an upgrade defensively but not production wise. Exact same issue as for as I am concerned. Incomplete player.
- glove_was_stuck

I'd say a 20g 30a season is pretty high explications for any third line player.. heck Bergeron was barely a 20g/30a guy last year (21g/32a)... same goes for Krejci (23g/31a). Who would be your prototypical 3rd line center then? If there was one guy you could pluck off any team, who would you take?

I'd say a 20g 30a season is pretty high explications for any third line player.. heck Bergeron was barely a 20g/30a guy last year (21g/32a)... same goes for Krejci (23g/31a). Who would be your prototypical 3rd line center then? If there was one guy you could pluck off any team, who would you take?
- mixturebill

Backes should be 3C and Spooner should be on a wing with Krejci or Backes.

Hmmm who would i pluck? Ill get back to you on that one.

Backes should be 3C and Spooner should be on a wing with Krejci or Backes.

Hmmm who would i pluck? Ill get back to you on that one.
- Mahewman

I don't mind that idea... it's tough seeing that $6m contract on the third line, but honestly that might be the best spot for Backes moving forward. But they would need to fill a hole at top 6 RW then. I was penciling in Pastrnak/Backes as the top two RW. Maybe Cehlarik will be ready to go... I thought he looked pretty good with Krejci last year. Or maybe they can re-sign Stafford to a low term/low money deal to fill into the top 6 hole.

I think Spooner fits in best on the LW personally, but he pouts and turns into a whiney little female dog when he is moved to wing, so you're dealing with that drama.

I'd say a 20g 30a season is pretty high explications for any third line player.. heck Bergeron was barely a 20g/30a guy last year (21g/32a)... same goes for Krejci (23g/31a). Who would be your prototypical 3rd line center then? If there was one guy you could pluck off any team, who would you take?
- mixturebill

But 50 is what Spooner put up right? Yay Spooner. Drop it down to earth then. High 30's low 40's.

I'm not sure J F-K is ready this year. Honestly was not impressed with his NHL debut but he looked really good in NCAA. May need to bridge the gap for 1-2 years. To pluck from a roster... I would love to have Vladimir Sbotka back here. Others would include Bonino, K Hayes, or Wingels.

I don't mind that idea... it's tough seeing that $6m contract on the third line, but honestly that might be the best spot for Backes moving forward. But they would need to fill a hole at top 6 RW then. I was penciling in Pastrnak/Backes as the top two RW. Maybe Cehlarik will be ready to go... I thought he looked pretty good with Krejci last year. Or maybe they can re-sign Stafford to a low term/low money deal to fill into the top 6 hole.

I think Spooner fits in best on the LW personally, but he pouts and turns into a whiney little female dog when he is moved to wing, so you're dealing with that drama.
- mixturebill

I am hoping Bjork fills that role. Ive only heard good things.

I am hoping Bjork fills that role. Ive only heard good things.
- Mahewman

Me too.

Oh my, this one might be my new favorite. Got this from a poster on Ty's Twitter.



- dothedougie

But 50 is what Spooner put up right? Yay Spooner. Drop it down to earth then. High 30's low 40's.

I'm not sure J F-K is ready this year. Honestly was not impressed with his NHL debut but he looked really good in NCAA. May need to bridge the gap for 1-2 years. To pluck from a roster... I would love to have Vladimir Sbotka back here. Others would include Bonino, K Hayes, or Wingels.
- glove_was_stuck

Sobotka is a great answer

But 50 is what Spooner put up right? Yay Spooner. Drop it down to earth then. High 30's low 40's.

I'm not sure J F-K is ready this year. Honestly was not impressed with his NHL debut but he looked really good in NCAA. May need to bridge the gap for 1-2 years. To pluck from a roster... I would love to have Vladimir Sbotka back here. Others would include Bonino, K Hayes, or Wingels.
- glove_was_stuck

DUDE, (frank) YES SOBOTKA! I was so down for that dude. I was a huge Samsanov fan growing up, and was hyped for Sobotka. He hasn't exactly lit the world on fire in STL, but I was always a fan of that guy.

Hayes put up some pretty solid numbers with NY, but I think he was playing more so on the 2nd line for them, and Bonino had some decent stats with PIT. Bonino is a guy I'd love to have at 3rd line C, especially with him being a local CT guy.

Agree to disagree... but I think you're dead wrong on that one man. I'm not even a Spooner hater, but Spooner vs. Pageau I take Pageau in 9 situations out of 10. The one situation I'm taking Spooner over Pageau is the powerplay.
- mixturebill

This

But 50 is what Spooner put up right? Yay Spooner. Drop it down to earth then. High 30's low 40's.

I'm not sure J F-K is ready this year. Honestly was not impressed with his NHL debut but he looked really good in NCAA. May need to bridge the gap for 1-2 years. To pluck from a roster... I would love to have Vladimir Sbotka back here. Others would include Bonino, K Hayes, or Wingels.
- glove_was_stuck

Nice list. I like sbodka idea. Others aren't bad options either. Would also take Mikael Backlund if the flames were willing to trade him.

Nice list. I like sbodka idea. Others aren't bad options either. Would also take Mikael Backlund if the flames were willing to trade him.
- dothedougie

Sean Couturier might be up there. I also like Bryan Little and Joonas Donskoi on the Sharks. Not sure if he plays center.