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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 27 @ 6:41 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: RFA Tenders, Recchi, Alt, Flyers Alumni
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 6:53 AM ET
Congrats Rex!!!!

Such a solid player. Always felt like a good chance was coming when he had the puck
jtb3rd
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 02.08.2008

Jun 27 @ 6:57 AM ET
Congrats to Mark. I always thought he had a keen sense of knowing when a hit was coming and a way to take that hit properly. Imagine if Big E had that 6th sense.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 27 @ 6:59 AM ET
I liked Rex as a player here and I'm happy he got the call to the Hall.

I'm not so sure that the Flyers need to be retiring his number, though. I based this strictly on the notion that I don't know that the Flyers are the first team you think of when you think of Mark Recchi, even though the lion's share of his individual accomplishments were probably in Philadelphia.

I do look forward to a night honoring Rex's induction, though.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 27 @ 7:20 AM ET
I liked Rex as a player here and I'm happy he got the call to the Hall.

I'm not so sure that the Flyers need to be retiring his number, though. I based this strictly on the notion that I don't know that the Flyers are the first team you think of when you think of Mark Recchi, even though the lion's share of his individual accomplishments were probably in Philadelphia.

I do look forward to a night honoring Rex's induction, though.

- johndewar


I agree. Flyers Hall of Fame induction, absolutely. Retired number, no.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 27 @ 7:20 AM ET
I liked Rex as a player here and I'm happy he got the call to the Hall.

I'm not so sure that the Flyers need to be retiring his number, though. I based this strictly on the notion that I don't know that the Flyers are the first team you think of when you think of Mark Recchi, even though the lion's share of his individual accomplishments were probably in Philadelphia.

I do look forward to a night honoring Rex's induction, though.

- johndewar


Ditto
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 27 @ 7:22 AM ET
Ditto
- BiggE


edit: and, if they were to retire the number "8", Dave Schultz should be recognized as well. He, more than anyone, gave the Bullies their identity and he was integral part of the success of those Cup teams.

another edit: dammit the above was supposed to be an edit not a response to myself. You see, this is the kind of stuff that happens when I'm sober!
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 27 @ 7:58 AM ET
Some interesting names not getting QO's out there. Any buy low/high reward types?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 27 @ 8:11 AM ET
to this day I use Recchi as a measuring stick anytime the Flyers bring in a young skilled/playmaker smallish player (height) to the fold.... it's those traits as a player that any guy coming in should aspire to.... deserving of the Hall. Congrats.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 27 @ 8:11 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: RFA Tenders, Recchi, Alt, Flyers Alumni
- bmeltzer


I love Mark Recchi. I don't know where he standards in my top five favorite Flyers but definitely top ten.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 27 @ 8:11 AM ET
I liked Rex as a player here and I'm happy he got the call to the Hall.

I'm not so sure that the Flyers need to be retiring his number, though. I based this strictly on the notion that I don't know that the Flyers are the first team you think of when you think of Mark Recchi, even though the lion's share of his individual accomplishments were probably in Philadelphia.

I do look forward to a night honoring Rex's induction, though.

- johndewar


I agree with BiggE. Maybe We don't retire number 8 for just Recchi. Maybe they do a combined thing with Rechhi and Schultz kinda like I think the Phillies are going to have 14 retired for Rose and Bunning.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 27 @ 8:14 AM ET
So our goalie options to pair with Neuvirth for 17-18 are:

A. Stolarz
B. re-sign Mason
C. re-sign some other UFA, none of which are as good as Mason
D. try and trade for the overpriced and overrated MAF
E. try and trade for the way overpriced Lehtonen
F. try and trade for some other so-so veteran goalie
G. try and trade for a relatively unproven younger goalie
H. make a blockbuster deal for a legit top end starter
I. Hextall comes out of retirement
J. Bernie Parent finds a time machine, and then comes out of retirment
K. we comb the visitors locker room for a stray hair and clone Carey Price

Hmm, I'm leaning towards B, but I'm cool with J or K as well.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 27 @ 8:15 AM ET
to this day I use Recchi as a measuring stick anytime the Flyers bring in a young skilled/playmaker smallish player (height) to the fold.... it's those traits as a player that any guy coming in should aspire to.... deserving of the Hall. Congrats.
- landros 2


Recchi could play anywhere. All three forward spot. The point on the PP. He had a balanced two way fame, along with knowing when to shoot or when to pass at the right times. My favorite park Recchi moment? An early season west coast trip against Calgary. We were down a number of goals. Hitch takes thecteam off the ice with seconds left, leaving Rex to take the single faceoff. Mark Recchi responds with a huge third comeback with a Hatty
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 27 @ 8:16 AM ET
So our goalie options to pair with Neuvirth for 17-18 are:

A. Stolarz
B. re-sign Mason
C. re-sign some other UFA, none of which are as good as Mason
D. try and trade for the overpriced and overrated MAF
E. try and trade for the way overpriced Lehtonen
F. try and trade for some other so-so veteran goalie
G. try and trade for a relatively unproven younger goalie
H. make a blockbuster deal for a legit top end starter
I. Hextall comes out of retirement
J. Bernie Parent finds a time machine, and then comes out of retirment
K. we comb the visitors locker room for a stray hair and clone Carey Price

Hmm, I'm leaning towards B, but I'm cool with J or K as well.

- BiggE


D is not an option.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 27 @ 8:17 AM ET
D is not an option.
- Streit2ThePoint

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 8:17 AM ET
asdf
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 27 @ 8:23 AM ET
sooo.. ummm... how likely is it that Lyubimov accepts the Flyer's offer and if he does then what does Hextall do with the excess of forwards?
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 27 @ 8:23 AM ET
edit: and, if they were to retire the number "8", Dave Schultz should be recognized as well. He, more than anyone, gave the Bullies their identity and he was integral part of the success of those Cup teams.

another edit: dammit the above was supposed to be an edit not a response to myself. You see, this is the kind of stuff that happens when I'm sober!

- BiggE



too much blood in your alcohol stream?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 8:24 AM ET
Some interesting names not getting QO's out there. Any buy low/high reward types?
- J35Bacher


Jyri Jokipakka, since we need another Nik Grossmann

Burmistrov or Pirri if Weal leaves.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 8:24 AM ET
Jyri Jokipakka, since we need another Nik Grossmann

Burmistrov or Pirri if Weal leaves.

- Tomahawk

please no lol
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 8:26 AM ET
Hmm, I'm leaning towards B, but I'm cool with J or K as well.
- BiggE

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 27 @ 8:36 AM ET
Jyri Jokipakka, since we need another Nik Grossmann

Burmistrov or Pirri if Weal leaves.

- Tomahawk



I actually like Steffan Matteau or maybe Grigorenko.

Probably not costing much. Guys that might sneak past waivers. The Phantoms lost Miele I believe so getting some talent on the Phantoms wouldn't be the worst thing if that happens.

Also both could play in your bottom 6. Problem i guess you have is you still have Read and Weise.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 27 @ 8:37 AM ET
too much blood in your alcohol stream?
- Doc_Sarcasm

No, not enough.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 27 @ 8:37 AM ET
edit: and, if they were to retire the number "8", Dave Schultz should be recognized as well. He, more than anyone, gave the Bullies their identity and he was integral part of the success of those Cup teams.

another edit: dammit the above was supposed to be an edit not a response to myself. You see, this is the kind of stuff that happens when I'm sober!

- BiggE


I wasn't alive in the 70s, so I never got to see the BSB days live. But I've seen the tapes, I've heard the legendary stories, and I've read up on them. And I agree that Dave Schultz was the face of the BSB, the guy who played the heel and loved it, and the guy who gave Clarke et. al. the protection they needed.

That all said, his number should not be retired. I understand that he was an integral part of the team. He was a great enforcer, and the one player in the 70s that people were literally afraid of on the Flyers (for my money, he was maybe the 3rd best fighter on the team, though). But again, to me, a retired number should be reserved for a player whose skill at playing hockey is legendary, not a guy whose fighting prowess was legendary.

Again, I wasn't alive during the 70s, so I don't have the same reverence that some may, but that's just how I view it. Hell, I'd rather see Brindy and Tocchet get their numbers retired first.

Edit: Plus Rex, while not a frequent combatant, could and would throw them.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 27 @ 8:52 AM ET
I wasn't alive in the 70s, so I never got to see the BSB days live. But I've seen the tapes, I've heard the legendary stories, and I've read up on them. And I agree that Dave Schultz was the face of the BSB, the guy who played the heel and loved it, and the guy who gave Clarke et. al. the protection they needed.

That all said, his number should not be retired. I understand that he was an integral part of the team. He was a great enforcer, and the one player in the 70s that people were literally afraid of on the Flyers (for my money, he was maybe the 3rd best fighter on the team, though). But again, to me, a retired number should be reserved for a player whose skill at playing hockey is legendary, not a guy whose fighting prowess was legendary.

Again, I wasn't alive during the 70s, so I don't have the same reverence that some may, but that's just how I view it. Hell, I'd rather see Brindy and Tocchet get their numbers retired first.

- jmatchett383


Bob Gainey had 501 points in 1160 games and his number was retired by Montreal. Now Gainey was an excellent defensive forward and a great team leader, but his pure hockey skills were far from legendary. IMO, if a players contributions were critical to the success of Stanley Cup winning team and that same player gave that team the identity that led to their success, that player's number should at least be considered for retirement.

That being said, I would not retire #8 just in honor of Dave Schultz. However, if they are considering retiring the number due to Recchi's Hall of Fame induction, IMO, Dave Schultz must also be recognized. As good as those Bullies teams were, without Schultz setting the tone, I don't know if they win a Cup, let alone back to back.
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