HockeyBuzz Hotstove: Thoughts on the Rangers/Coyotes trade?

lol yep rangers keep making those great trades. there is nothing better than seeing the rangers making moves that never gets them anywhere.

HockeyBuzz Hotstove: Thoughts on the Rangers/Coyotes trade?
- ToddCordellVAN

Coyotes won the deal.

Tanner won the deal by a landslide

See nothing but a win for the Coyotes here.
-traded a 7th overall in a weak draft
-traded a guy they acquired for a second round pick
-get a pretty damn good forward in Stepan
-get what could be an upgrade in goal over Smith... or at the very least a better Goalie than they were going to start the season with prior to the trade.

Rangers get cap space to sign Shatenkirk. I guess that is a win.

Stepan has been very consistent with in point productions so it's hard for me to gauge how much his play has dropped off (if it has). If he holds up its a good add for AZ.

IF the Rangers land Shattenkirk with the cleared cap space then it will all be win. Right now it's pretty inconclusive. It might have bee better to trade Raanta separately, but who knows.

lol yep rangers keep making those great trades. there is nothing better than seeing the rangers making moves that never gets them anywhere.
- nyislsbossy

they've literally never traded one of their top players for picks/prospects before

oh wait, except when they traded Scott Gomez for some guy named Ryan McDonagh, nah that didn't work out

Stepan has been very consistent with in point productions so it's hard for me to gauge how much his play has dropped off (if it has). If he holds up its a good add for AZ.

IF the Rangers land Shattenkirk with the cleared cap space then it will all be win. Right now it's pretty inconclusive. It might have bee better to trade Raanta separately, but who knows.
- Queenie_5_hole

Shattenkirk didn't look outstanding in the playoffs, IMHO.
Depending on the money he's looking for... could be a stiff price to pay for his services.

Shattenkirk didn't look outstanding in the playoffs, IMHO.
Depending on the money he's looking for... could be a stiff price to pay for his services.
- mlindsay

probably the best two things the Rangers have going for themselves overall are Ryan McDonagh and Brady Skjei.

Both are left handed defensemen, both of them would be great partners for Shattenkirk who are responsible enough defensively to let Shattenkirk do his thing

maybe the NYR get lucky and it's his lousy playoffs that keeps his price a little lower

lol yep rangers keep making those great trades. there is nothing better than seeing the rangers making moves that never gets them anywhere.
- nyislsbossy

Can't wait till Eberle for Strome joins the long list of Luongo and Jokinen for Kvasha and Parrish, Bertuzzi and McCabe for Linden or the whopper, Chara and what ended up as Spezza for Yashin, no tell us more about Rangers trades

Turned Ryan Haggerty along with a slow 2nd line Center into a 7th overall pick and an NHL ready 21 year old puck moving defenseman, no landslide for Arizona, sorry

Shattenkirk didn't look outstanding in the playoffs, IMHO.
Depending on the money he's looking for... could be a stiff price to pay for his services.
- mlindsay

That's fair, but the guy has a long track record of putting up points. You want to question how good his defense is, that's fine. Just bout every player who makes it to free agency has a flaw.... even if that flaw is they want more money and term then they should get. In the end they all seem to be tradable assets so I'd take that chance.

Stepan was regarded, by i'd say 80% of this site, as "a good second line center that makes too much money"

until now

Stepan was regarded, by i'd say 80% of this site, as "a good second line center that makes too much money"

until now
- mrn22

haha

I think this move was necessary. This core has not been able to win the big one and change was needed. Was Stepan the reason NYR didn't win the Cup? No. But you have to make tough calls sometimes and with Miller, Hayes, Skjei, and Zibby all needing to get paid the Rangers get to retool and to save up for the future. Zibby was on his way to Stepan numbers last season before the injury so he should be able to pick up the slack there. Rebuild the fourth line, rebuild the D. The team should be able to pick up where they left off in the next season or two and be better long term.

haha
- jimbo83

Kinda of a silly argument... Dont we have to at least see how the season plays out?

I think this move was necessary. This core has not been able to win the big one and change was needed. Was Stepan the reason NYR didn't win the Cup? No. But you have to make tough calls sometimes and with Miller, Hayes, Skjei, and Zibby all needing to get paid the Rangers get to retool and to save up for the future. Zibby was on his way to Stepan numbers last season before the injury so he should be able to pick up the slack there. Rebuild the fourth line, rebuild the D. The team should be able to pick up where they left off in the next season or two and be better long term.
- jnyfive

I really think they unloaded Stepan's contract just in time, just like they did Scott Gomez

I really think they unloaded Stepan's contract just in time, just like they did Scott Gomez
- jimbo83

Proactive for once??? Gorton proving some people wrong.

Proactive for once??? Gorton proving some people wrong.
- jnyfive

I think Brassard for Zibinajed could be considered proactive too.

Im so happy for Tanners Yotes, but watch out for Tanners Knights and Tanners Leafs as making some noise this offseason

I think Brassard for Zibinajed could be considered proactive too
- jimbo83

Very much. Zibby would have been in the 50 point range if not for the injury.

Agreed I think ziggy can be a 50pt guy no problem! But it's a strange move to me,i know they needed cap relief! But maybe getting a player who can help them now? take like what Edmonton did with the ebbs trade! They received a decent return ya, but didn't it create a couple of holes for a completing team?Maybe they'll be filled at free agency I guess? And from Arizona side,agree they had prospects to spare

Agreed I think ziggy can be a 50pt guy no problem! But it's a strange move to me,i know they needed cap relief! But maybe getting a player who can help them now? take like what Edmonton did with the ebbs trade! They received a decent return ya, but didn't it create a couple of holes for a completing team?Maybe they'll be filled at free agency I guess? And from Arizona side,agree they had prospects to spare
- MR.Hunter

We'll never know what the other offers were. This may have been the best one. In the end, time will tell how it works out.

Im so happy for Tanners Yotes, but watch out for Tanners Knights and Tanners Leafs as making some noise this offseason
- DDM-Coga

What about Tanner's Flyers and Tanner's Oilers?

This wasn't a weak draft... I think it's just as good as the 2014 one, just no high powered prospects like Laine, Matthews, and McDavid...