Bob Duff
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Location: Windsor, ON Joined: 11.10.2014
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Feds91Stammer
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Draft the (frank)ing best player available regardless of position. |
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wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Canada Sucks, MI Joined: 01.31.2006
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start the rebuild and get kenny out of here is at the top of my draft list. |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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Bring Malkin to Detroit to be The Man. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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start the rebuild and get kenny out of here is at the top of my draft list. - wingz4life
Peep my location. |
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wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Canada Sucks, MI Joined: 01.31.2006
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Peep my location. - Feds91Stammer
ur talking next year, no way kenny is having this team finish that low. going to do everything he can to try to make the playoffs. good thing is that he painted himself in a corner with poopty drafting and bad contracts. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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ur talking next year, no way kenny is having this team finish that low. going to do everything he can to try to make the playoffs. good thing is that he painted himself in a corner with poopty drafting and bad contracts. - wingz4life
How are they going to be any better than last season? Lucky OT and SO wings kept them out of the bottom 3. |
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How are they going to be any better than last season? Lucky OT and SO wings kept them out of the bottom 3. - Feds91Stammer
Detroit still won't be the worst team in the east. |
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Sven22
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI Joined: 12.24.2007
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How are they going to be any better than last season? Lucky OT and SO wings kept them out of the bottom 3. - Feds91Stammer
Honestly? Goaltending.
Last year they got a collective .906 out of Mrazek, Howard, and Coreau. If they could get .915 this year (which is what they got out of Mrazek and Howard in 2015-16) that alone would save them 23 goals over 82 games, everything else being equal.
I mean, they'd still be terrible (the Wings were -46 as a team once you factor out the "goals" awarded for winning shootouts) but probably not terrible enough to be in the absolute dregs of the league. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Honestly? Goaltending.
Last year they got a collective .906 out of Mrazek, Howard, and Coreau. If they could get .915 this year (which is what they got out of Mrazek and Howard in 2015-16) that alone would save them 23 goals over 82 games, everything else being equal.
I mean, they'd still be terrible (the Wings were -46 as a team once you factor out the "goals" awarded for winning shootouts) but probably not terrible enough to be in the absolute dregs of the league. - Sven22
They had the 5th worst 5v5 HDCF% and their PDO was a .996 so looking at sv% + sh% it isn't like they were unlucky. They are a bad team and they aren't making coaching changes or major roster changes. |
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wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Canada Sucks, MI Joined: 01.31.2006
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How are they going to be any better than last season? Lucky OT and SO wings kept them out of the bottom 3. - Feds91Stammer
they arent but they arent going to be that much worse in order to get dahlen/svech. |
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wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Canada Sucks, MI Joined: 01.31.2006
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another issue with getting evgeni's brother. andrei plays the same position (RW). |
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Sven22
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI Joined: 12.24.2007
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They had the 5th worst 5v5 HDCF% and their PDO was a .996 so looking at sv% + sh% it isn't like they were unlucky. They are a bad team and they aren't making coaching changes or major roster changes. - Feds91Stammer
5-on-5 PDO was 996, but all situations was down at 987 despite the fact that the Wings had more PP time than PK time. You'll get no argument from me that they fully earned their even strength crappiness, but I think maybe they got a little unlucky on special teams. And if Mrazek has a nice bounce-back year you'd think they could bat a little above 1000 with neutral luck.
Either way, it's kind of sad that we've been reduced to arguing over whether Detroit is the third or fifth worst team in the NHL. |
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wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Canada Sucks, MI Joined: 01.31.2006
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5-on-5 PDO was 996, but all situations was down at 987 despite the fact that the Wings had more PP time than PK time. You'll get no argument from me that they fully earned their even strength crappiness, but I think maybe they got a little unlucky on special teams. And if Mrazek has a nice bounce-back year you'd think they could bat a little above 1000 with neutral luck.
Either way, it's kind of sad that we've been reduced to arguing over whether Detroit is the third or fifth worst team in the NHL. - Sven22
its actually fun how bad the team is but yet they have little to no cap space. Bad contracts are just one reason why kenny needs to go now. |
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DutchSenators
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Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam Joined: 06.07.2015
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Pettersson is not really a reach though, one of the most talented players from the draft. Would be a good selection but I guess the need at Defense is higher. Yikes. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Pettersson is not really a reach though, one of the most talented players from the draft. Would be a good selection but I guess the need at Defense is higher. Yikes. - DutchSenators
At 9 I want Liljegren or Glass. Otherwise I want to trade down a few spots and still try to get Petersson or Brannstrom. |
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datswho
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Location: MI Joined: 05.25.2013
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That is the craziest part. The insanely high payroll for a dumpster fire of a team. Worse, it'll take years to get out of this. |
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DutchSenators
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Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam Joined: 06.07.2015
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At 9 I want Liljegren or Glass. Otherwise I want to trade down a few spots and still try to get Petersson or Brannstrom. - Feds91Stammer
If Glass is available for sure. Not sure about Liljegren at 9, may be a tad high. |
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DutchSenators
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Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam Joined: 06.07.2015
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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If Glass is available for sure. Not sure about Liljegren at 9, may be a tad high. - DutchSenators
I'm not going to hold getting mono against Liljegren. Definitely wouldn't pass on a guy that started the year so highly touted for something like that especially after having a similar rating change happen to Chychrun who I thought they should have taken last year. |
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DutchSenators
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Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam Joined: 06.07.2015
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I'm not going to hold getting mono against Liljegren. Definitely wouldn't pass on a guy that started the year so highly touted for something like that especially after having a similar rating change happen to Chychrun who I thought they should have taken last year. - Feds91Stammer
The difference is that Chychrun did not fell in the mock drafts but only in the real draft. Liljegren is falling rapidly in the mock drafts (and scouting reports) as well. I still think he should be taken around 14-18 but 9 might be a bit too high. Problem is that if you trade down from 9 to 14 you're not sure if you could grab him. So if you really want him, I guess picking him up at 9 isn't bad. |
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TwoPieceFeed
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Location: HockeyTown Joined: 08.13.2009
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Draft Makar, Heiskanen, or Liljegren plz.
I can't believe how far Valimaki has fallen in most draft rankings. |
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TwoPieceFeed
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: HockeyTown Joined: 08.13.2009
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another issue with getting evgeni's brother. andrei plays the same position (RW). - wingz4life
Andrei played center in Russia and during Russia's recent WJs.
He has the talent and IQ to play center as a pro.
Evgeny also played center, prior to joining the Quebec league.
If anyone hasn't seen some of Andrei's highlights against Sweden... I suggest you look them up (available on HFBoards). Absolutely embarrassed them. |
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Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
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