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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jun 20 @ 12:50 PM ET
Todd Cordell: On Mueller, Hischier, and rumors of Vegas trying to move up
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:56 PM ET
I'd love it if Philly traded #2 to Vegas, so the pressure of sending whoever we don't pick to a big rival goes away.
mcjags
New Jersey Devils
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 06.12.2007

Jun 20 @ 12:57 PM ET
As I said on Twitter, Button is the same guy that chose Gazdic from NJ's roster in a mock expansion draft. I wouldn't be referencing his ability to rate players as an argument for Nico.
Discourse_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 05.11.2016

Jun 20 @ 1:15 PM ET
Go ahead and pass up on Patrick
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 20 @ 1:21 PM ET
Makar 1st overall
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Jun 20 @ 1:24 PM ET
Vegas would be smart to spread those 1st round picks, simply so they don't have a hoard of RFA deals to do in 3 years
jersey1414
Joined: 05.10.2013

Jun 20 @ 1:35 PM ET
Vegas would be smart to spread those 1st round picks, simply so they don't have a hoard of RFA deals to do in 3 years
- uf1910


I can't imagine that would impact their decision making process. You're assuming each are homerun, stud prospects. And if that's the case then I'm sure they'll sign for that now and cross that bridge when needed.
TRDevil
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toms River, NJ
Joined: 04.04.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:49 PM ET
Rookie D man having confidence issues under PDB..... I know that has been said but Todd's analysis is strikingly similar to what would have been Larsson's a few seasons ago. All we can do is hope for the best, he's our boy now.
Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: KL
Joined: 07.10.2012

Jun 20 @ 1:58 PM ET
Could easily be done for 1 or 2. Offer the 6th pick, agree to take ANYONE, even a terrible contract from that team, and offer almost any 2-3 players left unprotected across the league.

They also will have other picks available but I think they should go into the draft with anywhere between 12-18 picks as this is the only way to get some great players under 21.
Peterg
Location: Canada, NS
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 20 @ 2:14 PM ET
As I said on Twitter, Button is the same guy that chose Gazdic from NJ's roster in a mock expansion draft. I wouldn't be referencing his ability to rate players as an argument for Nico.
- mcjags


Who else you taking from NJ available players? At least with Gazdic you only have to deal with him for a week and then he is gone forever.
Girouxsalem90
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Upstate, NY
Joined: 05.28.2013

Jun 20 @ 2:23 PM ET
If I'm philly I'm only trading #2 for #6, unprotected Vegas 1st next year, and a solid prospect/mid round 1st for this year. Vegas would be foolish to do that, so I doubt they're moving into the top 2 (I expect NJ would want the same, if not a better package). Both NJ & Philly need a future #1c and one just potentially landed in their laps, no reason to make a move.
jersey1414
Joined: 05.10.2013

Jun 20 @ 2:28 PM ET
If I'm philly I'm only trading #2 for #6, unprotected Vegas 1st next year, and a solid prospect/mid round 1st for this year. Vegas would be foolish to do that, so I doubt they're moving into the top 2 (I expect NJ would want the same, if not a better package). Both NJ & Philly need a future #1c and one just potentially landed in their laps, no reason to make a move.
- Girouxsalem90


You a Sixers fan? I don't think there are "protected" and "unprotected" picks in the NHL like there are in the NBA. There are conditional picks, but not lottery protected ones to my knowledge.
Girouxsalem90
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Upstate, NY
Joined: 05.28.2013

Jun 20 @ 2:37 PM ET
You a Sixers fan? I don't think there are "protected" and "unprotected" picks in the NHL like there are in the NBA. There are conditional picks, but not lottery protected ones to my knowledge.
- jersey1414

What I meant by that is Vegas saying "have our first, but if we win the lottery (in the top 3), it shifts to the 19 draft" which I believe has happened with 1st round exchanges in hockey before. Don't follow basketball at all, but would be a Knicks fan if I did haha.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 20 @ 2:40 PM ET
You a Sixers fan? I don't think there are "protected" and "unprotected" picks in the NHL like there are in the NBA. There are conditional picks, but not lottery protected ones to my knowledge.
- jersey1414




Lottery protection is quite often the "conditional" part of the trade. Like a 2018 "lottery protected" pick from Vegas would be a 2019 1st rounder if Vegas misses the playoffs.
jersey1414
Joined: 05.10.2013

Jun 20 @ 2:41 PM ET
Lottery protection is quite often the "conditional" part of the trade. Like a 2018 "lottery protected" pick from Vegas would be a 2019 1st rounder if Vegas misses the playoffs.
- smellmyfinger


Ah, ok! I'm wrong then. Not the first time and won't be the last. Thanks.
Devils314
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 08.16.2016

Jun 20 @ 2:55 PM ET
Looks like Vegas is going to be taking a lot of defenseman and will be looking to move some wonder if shero could make a trade happen we will see soon enough I guess
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jun 20 @ 3:12 PM ET
I'd love it if Philly traded #2 to Vegas, so the pressure of sending whoever we don't pick to a big rival goes away.
- MannySilvers


If Philly does this they will get something better so that would be worse.
Croft_31
Season Ticket Holder
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jun 20 @ 3:20 PM ET
Button definitely put a different lens on how GM may approach the expansion draft - managing the number of contracts. He was likely over emphasizing this fact for tsn to give viewers an alternate view. Interesting none the less.
K-dizzle
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:41 PM ET
Anybody see the preds jersey leak? They are brutal adidas better not botch the devils uni's
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:48 PM ET
Anybody see the preds jersey leak? They are brutal adidas better not botch the devils uni's
- K-dizzle



The Blues one isn't terrible. Those are the only two released so far.
K-dizzle
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:57 PM ET
The Blues one isn't terrible. Those are the only two released so far.
- smellmyfinger

Blues is ok. After seeing the preds I'm not looking forward the reveal
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 20 @ 4:35 PM ET
3 more days until we draft Patrick
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 20 @ 4:36 PM ET
Makar 1st overall
- DDM-Coga

We'll probably take liljegren
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 20 @ 4:37 PM ET
Anybody see the preds jersey leak? They are brutal adidas better not botch the devils uni's
- K-dizzle

They will
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Jun 20 @ 4:40 PM ET
I'd love it if Philly traded #2 to Vegas, so the pressure of sending whoever we don't pick to a big rival goes away.


Darn our first was a bust, but it feels better because the guy we didn't pick is kicking ass with Vegas instead of Philly...
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