Jared Crozier: Senators making the right moves so far...need one more

Wht offer LV anything? If he wants to help us out and give us some cap relief by taking an expensive vet and leaving claessen then so be it

id offer 1st and 2nd round pick this year if they take Ryan in the draft. take that 7.5 mill contract off would help sens sign a better player. The risk that Ryan regresses back to the way he played in reg season is too great IMO.

8 skaters and goalie the other option? If they really wanted to keep Methot, losing Smith or Dzingel would have been better option

That's the correct cost of ryan starts! with a 1st ,if not then they'll take Methot! Teams including the leafs will be very interested! And Methot being Karlssons best friend, won't be happy! But that's the business! Hopefully it won't impact his desire to resign? I doubt it! But you can thank Phaneuf for the position their in! No way Vegas would of taken him!...sucks

8 skaters and goalie the other option? If they really wanted to keep Methot, losing Smith or Dzingel would have been better option
- Ottawa Fan

Agreed! Dman are at a all time premium! and again Methot being Karlssons best friend

Beaulieu was someone the Habs wanted to GUARANTEE to leave town and didn't want to risk having Vegas ignore. Not how I would run things but certainly part of current Habs management mindset.

Methot is all, move along, nothing to see here and please don't offer more than a third to keep him. Rather keep Claesson than Methot at this point.

People need to relax. Try building a team with the TSN tool. Load of d-men available and the cap comes into play. I find it very hard to believe Vegas will be taking Methot and his 5 mill salary of all the guys available.

Same with Ryan. Forwards are more of a gong show and there is no way they take his contact over other forwards available.

Exposing guys with massive salaries is plan B is you can't protect them officially.

And since when is Methot Karlsson's best friend? This grade 6?

People need to relax. Try building a team with the TSN tool. Load of d-men available and the cap comes into play. I find it very hard to believe Vegas will be taking Methot and his 5 mill salary of all the guys available.

Same with Ryan. Forwards are more of a gong show and there is no way they take his contact over other forwards available.

Exposing guys with massive salaries is plan B is you can't protect them officially.

And since when is Methot Karlsson's best friend? This grade 6?
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Come on man....we all know they made a pinky promise to be besties forever

Come on man....we all know they made a pinky promise to be besties forever
- sensarmy_11

Protecting 4 defencemen would have exposed one of Pageau or Brassard, not just Smith and Dzingel.

As much as I like Methot, I think people have to start getting realistic about his situation. Even if Vegas doesn't select him, it's very likely that the Senators are going to need a new defence partner in place for Karlsson before his top-dollar contract extension comes up - especially when you factor in the cost of new contracts for all of Turris, Stone, Ceci, and Pageau over the next 2 seasons, potentially having to replace Anderson, and re-signing their best young prospects in Chabot, White, Brown, Paul, and Englund.

It's not just if Vegas wants Methot. What if a top team calls and offers a first rounder for Vegas to pick then flip? I am expecting to see a lot of situations like that.

Also find it hard for Vegas not to see a lot of younger/cheaper goalie options than Fleury

Still think that after Dion said that he wouldn't waive, Ottawa should of went the 8 skater route. Protect their top 4 and Turris, Hoffman, Stone, and Pageau. That would of allowed Brassard to be exposed but with his surgery hopefully Vegas would of stayed away. They also could of put it out in the media that there was more damage in his shoulder than expected ( or something like that).

My bet is Ottawa gave a draft pick or made some kind of a deal to protect guys like Methot. Protecting Ceci over Methot makes no sense, especially when he could lose his job as soon as the rookies like Harper, Chabot, etc come up

It's not just if Vegas wants Methot. What if a top team calls and offers a first rounder for Vegas to pick then flip? I am expecting to see a lot of situations like that.

Also find it hard for Vegas not to see a lot of younger/cheaper goalie options than Fleury
- Ottawa Fan

let's be honest, they will only do that if they can send back a bad contract to Vegas. No one is going to pay a 1st for Methot alone.

My bet is Ottawa gave a draft pick or made some kind of a deal to protect guys like Methot. Protecting Ceci over Methot makes no sense, especially when he could lose his job as soon as the rookies like Harper, Chabot, etc come up
- Maverick1818

It makes sense, if you see the amount of minutes Ceci was allowed to play last season they are apparently very high on him.

My bet is Ottawa gave a draft pick or made some kind of a deal to protect guys like Methot. Protecting Ceci over Methot makes no sense, especially when he could lose his job as soon as the rookies like Harper, Chabot, etc come up
- Maverick1818

Really? Take your pick of the fact that Ceci played more minutes in both the regular season and playoffs than Methot, is 8.5yrs younger, doesn't make $4.9M/yr for one-dimensional defence, and is the only RHD other than Karlsson to be anywhere close to ready for top-4 play. Now, factor in whether Vegas would be more likely to take an RFA-age d-man like Ceci or a UFA-age d-man like Methot, whose value is rather conspicuously linked to playing with one of the best defenceman in the world.

And if Ottawa made a deal to protect players, then why would Ceci still be protected ahead of Methot? I think people are really overestimating how excited Vegas is going to be to take on ~$5M/yr contracts if they don't have to... versus what they could get in trade for taking on massive contract players from teams in cap crisis like the Kings.

Really? Take your pick of the fact that Ceci played more minutes in both the regular season and playoffs than Methot, is 8.5yrs younger, doesn't make $4.9M/yr for one-dimensional defence, and is the only RHD other than Karlsson to be anywhere close to ready for top-4 play. Now, factor in whether Vegas would be more likely to take an RFA-age d-man like Ceci or a UFA-age d-man like Methot, whose value is rather conspicuously linked to playing with one of the best defenceman in the world.

And if Ottawa made a deal to protect players, then why would Ceci still be protected ahead of Methot? I think people are really overestimating how excited Vegas is going to be to take on ~$5M/yr contracts if they don't have to... versus what they could get in trade for taking on massive contract players from teams in cap crisis like the Kings.
- khawk

^this. I actually hope they pick Methot and leave Claesson alone. Vegas picks up Claesson if they are smart.

Really? Take your pick of the fact that Ceci played more minutes in both the regular season and playoffs than Methot, is 8.5yrs younger, doesn't make $4.9M/yr for one-dimensional defence, and is the only RHD other than Karlsson to be anywhere close to ready for top-4 play. Now, factor in whether Vegas would be more likely to take an RFA-age d-man like Ceci or a UFA-age d-man like Methot, whose value is rather conspicuously linked to playing with one of the best defenceman in the world.

And if Ottawa made a deal to protect players, then why would Ceci still be protected ahead of Methot? I think people are really overestimating how excited Vegas is going to be to take on ~$5M/yr contracts if they don't have to... versus what they could get in trade for taking on massive contract players from teams in cap crisis like the Kings.
- khawk

Thats because Methot got his finger chopped off and was rushed into playing before it was fully healed in the play offs.

It's less about Methot and Ceci and more about Karlsson. If Methot goes, that isn't a great incentive for Karlsson to resign here. If Ceci goes, he is not only easily replaceable, but it's already happening with Chabot, Harper and others on the way. But it's a smaller loss as Methot is the shut down guy for all of the star players.